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Any Guitar Hero III for X360 folks?


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#1 of 41 OFFLINE   TonyTone

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Posted November 12 2007 - 05:55 AM

Subject says it all...just trying to break the ice here.

I just got it the other day--I'm a newbie to the GH franchise, and decided to jump on the bandwagon to see why so many folks like it so much.

I did research on the wireless vs. wired guitar controller debate and decided to take my chances on the slightly-more expensive wireless bundle--even after reading about the issues that more than a few folks were experiencing w/ the X360 wireless guitar (e.g., sticking/stiff fret buttons, compared to those on the wired X360 guitar; buttons that don't respond every once in a while; intermittent loss of connectivity in the middle of a session). Now I can't be completely sure if my wireless guitar may be experiencing some of these symptoms--after all, I've never done GH before so it could very well be that I just need lots of practice w/ it--but it seems to be working fine for me.

Note--given that it's a wireless guitar, it is battery-powered; however, it does not accept the X360 wireless controller battery pack, nor does it have a built-in charger function (in case you were wondering if you could just stick in two rechargeable AA batteries and then just charge them by connecting the guitar to the X360 console using the Charge-and-Play kit).

I have to admit I'm having a blast w/ GH III even though I am not at all familiar w/ the majority of the songs on it--the only ones I recognize (from hearing them sung on the radio/etc.) are "Hit Me with Your Best Shot" (this seems to be the one most folks try out at BB/CC GH demo kiosks BTW--LOL!), "Rock and Roll All Nite", "School's Out", "Barracuda", "Paint It, Black", "Rock You Like a Hurricane", "Welcome to the Jungle", and "Black Magic Woman".

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Posted November 13 2007 - 03:17 PM

I love Guitar Hero 3! I have been playing Guitar Hero 2 for about 5 months now and have been extremely addicted to it since getting it. I have a buddy that comes over weekly to play co-op. It's such a blast.

That being said. I absolutely hate the new wireless guitar. I don't think I can be objective about it though, because I am so used to the wired guitar now. It is really hard to get used to a brand new controller. The keys are rounded on the bottom and that makes a huge difference when playing songs. The keys are much harder to press down and I mess up on songs more than often on it.

I love the new songs though. Great playlist. There is probably a total of 3 songs that I absolutely will never play again, but 3 out of 42 isn't bad at all! In fact, I was really looking forward to GH3 because it exposes me to songs I never heard of before and I now I can add a ton of tunes to my iTunes! The graphics look much better this time around and I kind of like the boss battles.

One more thing. My wired guitar broke the other day! Does anyone know where I could get this thing fixed? I have been forced to play with the wireless and it's driving me crazy! If I could get it fixed for well under $40, I would do it. I know a store that sells them used for $40.

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Posted November 13 2007 - 11:01 PM

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One more thing. My wired guitar broke the other day! Does anyone know where I could get this thing fixed? I have been forced to play with the wireless and it's driving me crazy! If I could get it fixed for well under $40, I would do it. I know a store that sells them used for $40.

Not to hijack but, I have GH3 for Wii and the guitar worked flawlessly for about 2 weeks. Now I can see that I have the correct button pressed but the strum doesn't register causing missed notes. I'm consistently 20,000-40,000 points below my previous averages. I'm lucky to hit a 50 note streak now. Do I call Red Octane or Activision?

#4 of 41 OFFLINE   Steven Gebs

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Posted November 14 2007 - 02:49 AM

I believe stores usually have 30 day warranties...so if I was you I would try to return it to the store. Or you can check the batteries?

#5 of 41 OFFLINE   Aaron Silverman

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Posted November 14 2007 - 04:09 AM

I have the PS3 version -- there is definitely an issue with buttons sometimes not registering, which I hear is due to the connections on the detachable neck. But it isn't too bad. Also, the Star Power sensor is *extremely* sensitive and tends to activate at random times -- to the point where I generally don't bother thinking about it because when it becomes available it's bound to activate itself within a few seconds. The other thing that I think is throwing people off is that it just has a different feel than the PS2 wired controller, which takes a little getting used to.

I'm more interested in just jamming, so the occasional missed note and inability to really manage my star power aren't a big deal. But if I were trying to "beat" the game on Expert level, I'd probably send the whole thing back.

As for the song list -- I think they should focus on specific genres in future games. They're trying to cover too many bases. I love the classic rock and '80s metal, but most of the newer tracks don't interest me too much (although some of them are fun).
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#6 of 41 OFFLINE   Aaron Silverman

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Posted November 14 2007 - 04:40 AM

I just noticed something interesting -- Amazon is no longer offering the X360 or PS3 versions of the GHIII bundle for sale. (They're still offering 'em from third-party sellers.) They are still selling the Wii and PS2 bundles though.
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#7 of 41 OFFLINE   Morgan Jolley

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Posted November 14 2007 - 06:52 PM

For the Wii version, if the guitar screws up try disconnecting the Wiimote from the guitar (unplug the cable) after you've started the game up (not in the middle of a song obviously). This has helped me a couple times.

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Posted March 07 2008 - 10:50 PM

Late to the party -- as usual. I just got a PS3 and GH3, and am having a blast with it, being a wannabe guitarist; OK, I actually can play classical guitar, but never had an electric guitar nor learned to play one properly.

With songs I'm familiar with, I find that timing-wise I don't really 'watch' the screen for the note to hit the line, but just 'play' the note when it seems right according to the song. Which works for me...

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Posted March 10 2008 - 03:59 AM

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With songs I'm familiar with, I find that timing-wise I don't really 'watch' the screen for the note to hit the line, but just 'play' the note when it seems right according to the song. Which works for me...
Yeah, that's how I do it--just "go with the beat"...

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Posted March 10 2008 - 04:27 AM

I love this game and am having a blast with it. I've 5 *ed everything on Easy and Medium, and have about 16 5*s on Hard. I'm on the last tier on Hard and have passed everything except 'It's Raining Blood' and the last battle. On expert I'm on the 5th tier, but am stuck on 'Holiday in Cambodia' and 'Same Old Song and Dance'.

I've gotten comfortable moving my hand back and forth with the transition to the orange fret, but the songs that kill me are the ones that require rapid strumming. I just cannot get that down, and break my combo every time there is a series of rapid notes. I just haven't learned to double strum properly yet....
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Posted March 25 2008 - 05:10 AM

OK I'm finally on the battle with Lou on Hard. Man this is a pain in the a$$!.

You have to play around 2 minutes before you even get a chance for the first power-up. To make things worse, Lou gets his first powerup before you get yours, so he always uses it on you while you're trying to get your first one! I was lucky enough to get a whammy powerup initially one time, and I used it on him, and his meter barely dropped into the yellow. It looks like the only way to beat him is to stack up three powerups and use them all at once on him at the opportune time. Good luck with that though....

I think this one might take a while.
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Posted March 25 2008 - 07:32 AM

I picked up the game for the first time a week ago or so and made it to Lou on Medium. Strangely, it seemed easier than the other boss battles. I missed a couple of powerups but still beat him. I seem to recall the other boss battles being impossible unless you score every powerup.

You can stack multiple powerups? I thought the one you have goes away if you get another one.
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Posted March 25 2008 - 08:47 AM

Yeah, you can have up to 3 at one time. This becomes a necessity, since in order to win the battles you have to completely drain their rock meter. Usually, one power-up isn't enough to do that, so if you use one, and don't have another one ready to go right away, by the time you get the next one, the boss has already built their meter all the way back up, so it's like you didn't do anything at all with the first power up.
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Posted March 26 2008 - 07:23 AM

Dang, no wonder I was having so much trouble! Posted Image
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Posted March 26 2008 - 08:33 AM

I played Lou a bunch more times on Hard last night. Still no go, but I've got a better idea of what it's going to take, and it aint pretty.

In about the first 4 minutes of the song, you get a chance for 3 powerups.

Right after you get your first powerup, he has a section that he is playing that has a bunch of hammer on and pull off notes that are really clumped together. This is the opportune time to hit him with a powerup. On this section alone, I've had him drop into the flashing red on his meter from nailing him with Amp Overload, or Broken String as my first power-up.

However, it's just not enough to finish him. It's like if he missed one more note it would be over, but just not enough. Whammy, Lefty Flip, and Difficulty Up are near useless on him. I've hit him on this section with each of those, and he barely drops into the yellow. I'm still not sure yet what Double will do to him.

So therefore, it seems you have to store up at least two powerups to finish him off. The problem there is that after you get your second powerup, he doesn't really have any sections with a lot of notes close together, so the powerups aren't nearly as effective on him. I have hit him with two powerups in a row here, but it just doesn't drop his meter much, since he isn't playing as many notes.

So now, it seems you really need to get all of the first three powerups if you want to have a chance. That's a problem, because in the first 4 minutes that you have a chance to get all three powerups, he gets about 4-5 powerups to use on you. And if one of them is Double notes, then it's pretty much game over. It's just not physically possible to do chords that close together, and you're better off just not strumming at all through the double section, than trying to play the notes, because not playing the notes all together drops your meter less, than strumming incorrectly, or strumming and missing.

After the 3rd powerup, there is a bit of a breather, and then it goes into a section where he basically has simple sections, while you play hard, and since he doesn't have hard sections, it's harder for your power-ups to do anything to him.

I've only made it to the section after the third powerup a few times, and so far I've never actually nabbed all three powerups in one run, so it looks like this will be more difficult than anything i've played on GH 1 or 2.
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Posted March 27 2008 - 08:03 AM

This is why I don't bother playing on Hard.

I play games to have fun, not to frustrate myself! Posted Image I get enough frustration from real life. . .
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Posted April 01 2008 - 02:37 AM

I haven't 'graduated' to Hard yet, still on Medium. But I did figure out in my early boss battles that you need to 'save' the battle powers and fire two in a row, rather than just shooting off one as soon as you earn it.

What really screws me up now are songs where there are many notes not 'on the beat'. It's difficult to get a nice rhythm going on those.

Oh well, slowly does it. After all, I play to have fun too. And I am certainly enjoying it, even if it is hard going at times.

Still haven't managed a 'full combo' (I think that's the term), but then again now that I've cleared Easy I don't go back there (save to become familiar with a song I don't know well before trying to clear it on Medium).

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Posted April 01 2008 - 09:55 AM

I'm on the 7th tier on Expert now, but I still can't beat Lou on Hard.....
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Posted April 02 2008 - 04:53 AM

YES!! I finally beat that bastard on Hard last night! I got lucky on the powerup selection, got a whammy and an amp overload on the initial run of three, and didn't get hit by the real nasty ones from him. After you get to your solo, I nailed him with both of those one after the other, and then I can't remember if I used 1 or two more on him after that, but the last one that finished him off was a difficulty up.

What's wierd is that I think when he failed the difficulty up had already worn off. It's like he kept missing notes even after the powerup ended. I guess I demoralized him... Posted Image

I had a moment of panic as you still have to play out the end of the song after you beat him, and I was in the red when that bit started, but luckily it wasn't too hard.
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Posted April 10 2008 - 11:57 AM

Another late one to the party. I'd resisted the urge to pick up Guitar Hero... until recently. I borrowed GH3, and after a little practice, I can't stop playing! Posted Image I've since picked up GH2, and after a night of co-op at a friends, I caved and bought Rock Band as well. (Drumming is HARD!)

Total addict. Just started medium difficulty on all the above games. Posted Image





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