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#1 of 35 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted October 10 2007 - 09:47 AM

Well, the day I had long awaited for finally came. I have
become the proud owner of my first Blu-Ray player and have
officially joined the ranks of the Blu members that occupy this forum.

I now own the Panasonic DMP-BD10A.

Being a HD-DVD owner for the past year, I was able to come
up with some initial impressions.

Hookup and setup is exactly the same as the Toshiba HD-DVD
players I have owned. Turn the player on, and you go through a
few initial easy steps to set up proper aspect ratio.

Not exactly sure, but the loading time on the Blu-Ray player seemed
slightly faster than the HD-DVD players I have come to wait on. I
don't think there is a need to investigate actual loading times between
the two format players as they seem close enough. After all, we are
all aware that there is a slight waiting time involved from power ON
to initial playback.

One of the small things that bother me about this Panasonic is the
need for a LOADING box to appear as the disc goes from STARTUP
to FBI LOGO to MENU. Perhaps I may be overexaggerating this effect,
but I have never seen a text box that says LOADING on an HD-DVD
player.

Another troublesome spot was that the Panasonic tends to clip
the very first few seconds off of footage when, for example, jumping
to the supplemental area. This could very well be an HDMI
handshaking problem that delays the information from reaching my
screen.

Take all the above complaints with a grain of salt. They are mere
observations of things I never experienced on the HD-DVD side.
What I am certain everyone REALLY wants to know is how much I
enjoyed the Blu-Ray experience itself.

I had the opportunity to watch two titles this afternoon. First up
was Bram Stoker's Dracula, which is my favorite Dracula
film of them all. Though there was a noticeable amount of
natural film grain evident, I thought the picture looked as good
as any other HD title I have seen.

Next up was another favorite, The Patriot, which I
thought looked fantastic! I was delighted to see deep black levels
that contributed to a very rich and colorful presentation.

I am not particularly fond of the menus on the Sony titles compared
to those that I saw on the Universal and Warner HD-DVD titles.
Since I have been very limited with what I have seen, I am not sure
if Blu-Ray players replicate the really cool, more elaborate sliding
menus that I see on HD-DVD. I also didn't hear any sound effects
(clicking and whooshing) as I navigated through the title menu.

When it boils right down to it, one format looks nor sounds any
better than the other. As I stated previously, the Blu-Ray experience
could have very well been the HD-DVD experience and I would have
not been able to tell a difference.

What is really nice about owning a Blu-Ray player is that now I
have access to a library of films from the "other" studios.

So, there you have it and here I am! Though I still proclaim
neutrality in this format war, I am proud to finally be a Blu-Ray
supporter.

 

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#2 of 35 OFFLINE   Raul Marquez,MD

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Posted October 10 2007 - 10:29 AM

Hiya Ron,

Greetings from San Juan.... I'm glad you're enjoying your player. I've yet to hook up mine pending the arrival of a new "baby" in the house....a Yamaha RX-V1800 receiver. BTW, did you perform the new firmware upgrade (2.4) posted by Panasonic today?

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#3 of 35 OFFLINE   Craig_Ehr

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Posted October 10 2007 - 04:39 PM

Congrats, Ron, on taking the Blu pill!

I think you will find many of the Disney BD titles, e.g. the 'Pirates of the Caribbean' films and 'The Prestige', have animated menus with sound effects. As BD-J(ava) is more widely supported by hardware and the various studios you will see a trend towards even more elaborate menus and interactive Blu-ray features in the future.

#4 of 35 OFFLINE   TheBat

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Posted October 10 2007 - 05:56 PM

the new fox release of the 1986 remake of the fly has sound during the menu. I would highly recommend that title if you don't own it on dvd. it also has pretty much all of the extras found on the 2 disc set.. unlike other movies that are not loaded with extras.

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#5 of 35 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted October 10 2007 - 09:31 PM

Quote:
BTW, did you perform the new firmware upgrade (2.4) posted by Panasonic today?

Heya Raul!

No, I haven't applied it yet though I did bookmark the download
page. Too much to do with this new player (including watching
movies) to immediately upgrade it.

I am wondering if anyone sees any significant changes with the
upgrade applied?

 

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#6 of 35 OFFLINE   ppltd

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Posted October 11 2007 - 01:14 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Heya Raul!

No, I haven't applied it yet though I did bookmark the download
page. Too much to do with this new player (including watching
movies) to immediately upgrade it.

I am wondering if anyone sees any significant changes with the
upgrade applied?
From 2.3 to 2.4, virtually no changes, but it depends on what level your 10a is at. There were some significant improvements from 2.0 to 2.4 so an upgrade might be advantageous.

BTW, welcome to the 'dual format' ownership world. It makes the whole concept studio exclusivity cease to have an impact.Posted Image

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#7 of 35 OFFLINE   anthony_b

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Posted October 11 2007 - 02:22 AM

Hi Ron, any particular reason you chose the Panasonic ?..as opposed to the very reliable and upgrade freindly PS3 ?
Think before you speak....Peace always

#8 of 35 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted October 11 2007 - 03:45 AM

Anthony,

Two reasons.

The Panasonic was given to a few HTF members including
myself at a recent EMA event.

Regardless of that, I would never have considered a PS3
because I am not a gamer.

 

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#9 of 35 OFFLINE   TheBat

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Posted October 11 2007 - 03:51 AM

anthony is right.. the ps3 is the best bluray player.. its very fast and easy to hook up.
its also very quiet. it plays blurays very well.. no problems yet.. also loads up faster then stand alone players.

I would highly recommend it.

I did alot of research on it.. talked with friends in the know about what was the best player.. and ps3 was it.
congraduations on the new bluray player ron.
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#10 of 35 OFFLINE   anthony_b

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Posted October 11 2007 - 04:11 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein
Anthony,

Two reasons.

The Panasonic was given to a few HTF members including
myself at a recent EMA event.

Regardless of that, I would never have considered a PS3
because I am not a gamer.

As a gift I would've done the same, but I'm not a gamer either. When I was doing my research it was the most future proof and reliable player out there. Also no problems playing FF Silver surfer or The Day after tomorrow...

Anyway, I hope you enjoy your player...
Think before you speak....Peace always

#11 of 35 OFFLINE   Dave_P.

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Posted October 11 2007 - 04:23 AM

Hi Ron, welcome aboard the Blu train. You can disable the "Loading" message via the Advanced Options if I'm not mistaken. I will take a look at the exact location when I get home.

#12 of 35 OFFLINE   Aaron Silverman

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Posted October 11 2007 - 04:53 AM

Congrats, Ron!

Non-gamers shouldn't discount the PS3. In addition to being the most versatile BD deck, it's pretty handy as a media server and web browser. I enjoy relaxing on the couch on Sunday morning with a cup of coffee and a 65" edition of the NY Times Magazine. Posted Image

To be honest, game-playing was a secondary consideration for me, but I've actually spent a fair amount of time downloading and playing free game demos. The HD graphics and multichannel audio in some of those things is really astounding.

PS When it comes to disc menus, as far as I'm concerned, the simpler the better!
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#13 of 35 OFFLINE   MattFini

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Posted October 11 2007 - 06:08 AM

Not to hijack Ron's thread here, but I went to the Blu side myself this past weekend.

I absolutley love it, and I was amazed how quickly my HD DVD preference went away. And what I mean by that is that I love being able to enjoy ALL high def discs across both formats. It's a great feeling and I'm already pleased with the quality and selections Blu Ray offers.
Universal, please release Streets of Fire on Blu-ray.

#14 of 35 OFFLINE   Larry Sutliff

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Posted October 11 2007 - 06:55 AM

Congratulations on the BD player, Ron. Happiness is being format neutral! Posted Image

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Posted October 11 2007 - 07:09 AM

I am feeling similarly happy and Blu with my Panny. To complete your Blu-Ray initiation, all you have to do now is download the latest firmware upgrade that was just released on Panasonic's site yesterday. I did it last night. The firmware update is the official rite of passage for either of the HD formats. Posted Image The recently shipped players are at firmware level 2.2, and yesterday's release brings them up to 2.4.

http://panasonic.jp/....d10/index.html

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Hi Ron, welcome aboard the Blu train. You can disable the "Loading" message via the Advanced Options if I'm not mistaken. I will take a look at the exact location when I get home.
To disable the player generated display text, with the player empty or the disc stopped, press the "Setup" button on the remote, select the "Display" tab, and then switch the "Status Messages" setting to "off".

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#16 of 35 OFFLINE   ErichH

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Posted October 12 2007 - 06:47 AM

Ron - JIC you don't know already - expand the update file with stuffit expander and burn the file as data/iso9660 in Toast at 4X.

If you're on your Win Sys, the instructions are on the site.

Looking forward to Dracula as well. Great audio on the Underworld flicks and of course 5th Element.

#17 of 35 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted October 12 2007 - 08:45 AM

I am on the Mac side (how could you not guess) and those
instructions will help me immensely!

 

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#18 of 35 OFFLINE   Mike_Richardson

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Posted October 13 2007 - 02:19 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBat
the new fox release of the 1986 remake of the fly has sound during the menu. I would highly recommend that title if you don't own it on dvd. it also has pretty much all of the extras found on the 2 disc set.. unlike other movies that are not loaded with extras.

Jacob

At least it HAS extras -- never mind a "load" of them, too many of the Fox Blu Ray discs have nothing on them at all! Like ROBOCOP recently for one....

#19 of 35 OFFLINE   Michael Reuben

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Posted October 13 2007 - 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken_McAlinden
The firmware update is the official rite of passage for either of the HD formats. Posted Image
But it feels so much more traditional with Blu, doesn't it? Something about that whole ritual of burning a CD and lovingly inserting it into the tray. Posted Image

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#20 of 35 OFFLINE   Paul.S

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Posted October 13 2007 - 06:09 AM

One can bypass the Interthingy route and do the same loving insertion into their HD DVD player, too. Posted Image


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