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#1 of 147 Sean Bryan

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Posted June 17 2007 - 07:11 AM

The fourth season starts tonight. I guess this can be the thread for the new season's discussion.

I'm looking forward to picking up this story again.
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Posted June 17 2007 - 07:51 AM

I'm excited about this Posted Image I really enjoy summer seasons, this and Eureka are on my list Posted Image
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Posted June 17 2007 - 11:13 AM

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I'm excited about this Posted Image I really enjoy summer seasons, this and Eureka are on my list Posted Image

I agree with both, but I'm a little wary about this season of the 4400. With how last season ended, I feel like it might be made a little more difficult for the writers. I kind of hope they go back to feeling more like seasons 1 and 2 which I thought were much better than season 3 (which was still good anyway), but I doubt they will.

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Posted June 17 2007 - 11:51 AM

I will be taping and saving the first few episodes of this season to watch later. I am 1/3 of the way into season 3 on DVD, and will be caught up soon.

Anyone know why tonight's premiere is only 1 hour? Seasons 2 and 3 had two-hour premieres, or 13 hours for the season. How many hours will season 4 be? Any word on this being the final season?

#5 of 147 Jason Seaver

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Posted June 17 2007 - 12:41 PM

It's probably just how USA had room to schedule it this year - even if the other years had two-hour premieres, they were likely two single episodes glued together. I'm guessing that it's just a matter of them having the same number of episodes in this batch as they had of The Dead Zone, or wanting to use The 4400 as a platform to launch Burn Notice later on.
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#6 of 147 Adam Lenhardt

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Posted June 17 2007 - 05:05 PM

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I agree with both, but I'm a little wary about this season of the 4400. With how last season ended, I feel like it might be made a little more difficult for the writers. I kind of hope they go back to feeling more like seasons 1 and 2 which I thought were much better than season 3 (which was still good anyway), but I doubt they will.
Really? I thought each season has been an evolutionary step forward. Season 3 was by far the best for me.

This season is exploring totally different places, it seems like. Color me intrigued; I enjoyed the season premiere much better than that debacle for "The Dead Zone"

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Posted June 18 2007 - 06:41 AM

I enjoyed this one quite a bit. So Collier does have a power.....?? Very interesting - and would he have used it except for the fact that this kid was stepping on his "territory".. ??? And who was the girl that Kyle was talking to in the park - I'm assuming (since she seemed to know all the details about Shaun) that she was some sort of manifestation of Kyle's own ability??? Thoughts???

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Posted June 18 2007 - 10:20 AM

Yeah, I really liked that storyline though because it summed up where this season could go: what happens to all the people who now enable themselves with powers... ?
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Posted June 18 2007 - 11:21 AM

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I enjoyed this one quite a bit. So Collier does have a power.....?? Very interesting - and would he have used it except for the fact that this kid was stepping on his "territory".. ???
I think it's a fantastic power for someone in his position. And it makes sense that it never manifested before since the second generation "extra crispy" superpowered didn't exist until Collier started handing out needles. I wonder, if Graham shoots up with promicin again, will he get his power back? Or does Collier's power permenantly disable an ability.
As for why he did it, I think — Burkhoff's hilarious "messiah-envy" comment aside — that Collier used it because it threatened his long term objectives. He's got to take out the dangerous ones, like Graham, if he's going to convince anybody that his promicin-enabled revolution is the right direction for the world.
I liked his dream at the beginning, with the conflicting futures. We see too many one-note messiahs on shows like this. Jordan's guilt and self-analysis gives the character depth. Part of working towards something you really believe in is having the responsibility to make sure what you're working towards is really worth believing in. Considering the scam artist he was at the beginning of the series, it showed real growth as a character.
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And who was the girl that Kyle was talking to in the park - I'm assuming (since she seemed to know all the details about Shaun) that she was some sort of manifestation of Kyle's own ability??? Thoughts???
That's a really interesting — and all too possible, even probable! — idea. My first thought was that she was a promicin user that had the ability to read minds. Her inexplicable disappearance led me to believe that she was an agent of the future, who needed Shawn back in the game. Once Kyle activated Shawn, she was yanked back into her own time. Considering what they did with Alana, we know they're more active in current events than we'd thought.
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Yeah, I really liked that storyline though because it summed up where this season could go: what happens to all the people who now enable themselves with powers... ?
Indeed. The thing that made my draw drop with that shocker of a season finale last season was the knowledge that "...this changes everything." It was nice to see that everything indeed did change.

I also thought it was brave to keep Skouris storyline on the bench instead of having Diana — with Maia in tow — starting back at NTAC once the new season started. Even though Diana arrived back in Seattle at the end, she's clearly going to be doing her own thing for a while. Meanwhile, Maia (wow, did Conchita Campbell grow a foot since the season finale?) seems to really like Europe AND Ben and seems to be out of the picture for the immediate future. Things got really scattered by that season finale and I'm glad this season is letting them play out naturally.

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Posted June 18 2007 - 04:13 PM

I didn't like last season at all. I won't be watching this season.

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Posted June 19 2007 - 01:00 AM

I thought this was a pretty good episode. Wow, Maia looks a ton older though, huh?

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Posted June 19 2007 - 01:36 AM

It was a good starting point. It will be interesting to see where this goes next.

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Posted June 19 2007 - 11:57 AM

I watched this again and something dawned on me. It's obvious that Collier is still near to Seattle. But more importantly, he was able to very quickly react to the news and had awareness. And in his message he acted as "The Shepherd" that he would guide them through troubled times ahead.

What made me wonder about this was what Isabelle said: "If you knew what I know now..." When Tom walked through the art gallery and saw the painting, he knew that she was in a different time, more then a hundred years ago.

In the end, what was real, what had been altered? I may be reading a lot into it, but that combined with the "ripples in the pond" bit.

I'm really looking forward to this.
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Posted June 19 2007 - 12:37 PM

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What made me wonder about this was what Isabelle said: "If you knew what I know now..." When Tom walked through the art gallery and saw the painting, he knew that she was in a different time, more then a hundred years ago.

In the end, what was real, what had been altered? I may be reading a lot into it, but that combined with the "ripples in the pond" bit.
Clearly, whatever difference Alana's abduction made — and it was clearly a much smaller difference than when Maia and the other kids were abducted in "Gone" last season since there's no moon colonies now — it happened at the end of last season. Isabelle, apparently de-bitchified since getting syringed, initially intended to spare Tom's hope. Later, she must have decided that he deserved to know.

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Posted June 19 2007 - 03:46 PM

Y'know... I think I needed a longer "Previously on..." I couldn't remember half of what happened last season. And especially Isabelle's father. I can't remember how his storyline ended at all. I assume he wanted off the show?

How did Shawn get in the coma?

Did Isabelle put him that way?

How and when did they get her captured?

I think they needed to rerun the final episode before the new season began! Is there a summary somewhere?

Oh, and I'll miss Alana!

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Posted June 20 2007 - 01:54 AM

I had the last episode of last season DVR'd. It was on last week some time.

Isabelle put Shawn in the coma when she read his mind to find the location of the stolen Promicin. When Isabelle got there it was a trap and an explosion was set of. Isabelle went to the 4400 school to kill kids as a way to get to Collier and was eventually taken down by Richard who injected her with the syringe Tom had from the future. Without her powers she wait straight to jail.

At the end of the episode Diane goes to Spain with Maia, Alana is abducted, Tom's son and Diane's both get their hands on Promicin. Richard is shown leaving in disguise. Didn't know he had left the show.

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Posted June 20 2007 - 02:00 AM

hey if you go to http://www.the4400.com they have a bunch of info on everything going on .. the homepage also has the season 3 finale available for viewing so you can catch up and answer all your questions.. I might have to do it too because I can't remember everything that happened either...

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Posted June 20 2007 - 05:06 AM

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Richard is shown leaving in disguise. Didn't know he had left the show.
He's coming back.


#19 of 147 Bryan Toth

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Posted June 20 2007 - 05:35 AM

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He's coming back.

Really?? That's good news - I always liked Richard's character and was surprised that he was gone. I knew something was up when the actor's name wasn't anywhere in the credits. It's easy enough to explain, I guess, given that he had essentially "killed" his own daughter ... (he thought she was going to die, and he did it anyway) Either way, I'll be happy if he re-joins the cast.


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Posted June 20 2007 - 08:28 AM

Good episode and good start to the season.

USA had actually been airing season 3 recently late at night (I think late Wednesdays). At least I caught the last 3 or four episodes. The last episode was on just last week, I believe. I'm glad I caught it before seeing the season premier.

Ryland didn't make an appearance. I hope his character is still here (like another character who is still here but didn't appear in the episode).

The story has been progressing nicely each year, so I'm really interested to see where this season takes us.


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I didn't like last season at all. I won't be watching this season.

So you came in here to post that you won't be posting in here. Ok, great. Thanks for keeping us informed.
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