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#1 of 29 Cameron Seaman

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Posted October 26 2001 - 03:24 AM

Hmmm...

What if Nintendo released the Gamecube early? Do you think they will?

If you look at the clues, there is a good possibility that this could happen.
  • Gamecubes are already here
Last week, Nintendojo reported:

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According to NOA's esteemed Perrin Kaplin, If you've pre-ordered a purple GameCube then fear not, for it is already here. The initial US and Canadian shipment of 350,000 Indigo Nintendo GameCubes has already been manufactured and shipped to the US. The Cubes are quietly awaiting their entrance into Americans' homes--approximately a month away. The equally large "Jet Black" shipment should arrive within the next several days.

"We're ready to roll," says Kaplin. "We're completely confident." Kaplin went on to note that 70,000 preorders for GameCube have been taken, leaving 630,000 up for grabs come mid-November.

Let's hope so. It is interesting, however, that if the black systems arrive within the next few days, the delay to November 18 would have been largely unnecessary. Perhaps more is afoot than Nintendo will tell us.
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  • Software is getting released early
Planet Gamecube reports that LucasArts and Factor 5 plan to put Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron II on shelves November 7th. Super Monkey Ball is also getting an early release. And you know that the big N already has Luigi's Mansion and Wave Race ready.
  • An early release would give Nintendo the 1-up.
If Nintendo wanted to get ahead of Microsoft's X-Box, this would be the only way to beat their November 15th release date.

And what other exciting way could Nintendo recreate the frenzy of the PS2 launch? Nintendo knows that if they suddenly announced that Gamecubes would be released early that the news would spread like wildfire! It has a good chance of making big news and leaving X-Box in the dust. If I'm right, even though it seems like Nintendo will stick to a firm release date, they have broken it in the past with the N64. If I remember correctly they released it couple days early.

What do you think? Am I talkin' out my ass, or are these facts relevant enough to back the hypothesis? Posted Image

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#2 of 29 John Berggren

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Posted October 26 2001 - 03:34 AM

I hope the GameCube arrives early.

GameCube is prepared to arrive early.

I'm crossing my fingers for 11/7.

Man would I be happy!

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#3 of 29 Michael St. Clair

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Posted October 26 2001 - 03:48 AM

Bestbuy.com billed my card last night for the 'Cube I ordered 2 weeks ago.

Update: of those of you who also preordered from bestbuy.com, could you check and see if you have been billed yet, and let us know (along with which color you chose)?

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#4 of 29 Kelley_B

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Posted October 26 2001 - 07:00 AM

Nintendo won't let them loose early, they are still missing 350,000 Black consoles. Remember when Sega released the Saturn early???? remember how bad that was, I doubt Nintendo will release them early. They had GBAs and games for a while, but they still didn't release it until the scheduled date. Another thing is look at the launch titles that aren't done.....man those 3rd party developers would be pissed if N launched now.

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Posted October 26 2001 - 07:18 AM

It could happen, but I doubt it. This is really interesting because some games for the Xbox are getting released early too, Halo for example will be in stores Oct 30th. I'm also already seeing posts in the gaming forums that have pictures of the accessories already arriving at peoples homes. Its nice that these things are getting released early so we don't have to scramble to get them on launch day, but I find it interesting that both companies are doing this. Great step in the right direction but I'm sure I'll have a much more difficult time waiting for the launch day when I have the games and accessories taunting me. Posted Image

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#6 of 29 Cameron Seaman

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Posted October 26 2001 - 08:14 AM

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they are still missing 350,000 Black consoles

From what NOA's Perrin Kaplin said (see first post), they should have them by now.

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Remember when Sega released the Saturn early????

Nintendo is no Sega.

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They had GBAs and games for a while, but they still didn't release it until the scheduled date.

Why would they release the GBA early? Nintendo owns the handheld market.

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Another thing is look at the launch titles that aren't done.....man those 3rd party developers would be pissed if N launched now.

Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron II and Super Monkey Ball are being released early. Luigi's Mansion and Wave Race are ready. I'm sure if Nintendo has planned in advane to sneak attack with an early launch, that they may have even more first party software ready. I'd be willing to wait another week or two for more software if I could have Wave Race and my Cube now.

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#7 of 29 Morgan Jolley

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Posted October 26 2001 - 08:36 AM

Metal Gear Solid 2 is complete, yet Konami hasn't released it yet. Why would they wait a month to do so? Because thats the way it works.

Thinking the GCN will come out early is just wishful thinking. They have the consoles in America, but not in stock at stores. There is a difference.

I got Tekken Tag Tournament for PS2 over a week before the PS2 was released, but that didn't come out early.

GBA wasn't released on the date. Nintendo floated around the date and let retailers release it when they wanted to as long as it was close enough. Some stores released it around 3 days early, but it wasn't a big deal.

Stores should have their full GCN shipments a week or so before launch, if not a little less than a week. Some will release it early, but it won't be an official launch.

First party games are always released with the console. Third party games just need approval from Nintendo. Rogue Leader could have come out in August if it was done.

#8 of 29 Michael St. Clair

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Posted October 26 2001 - 08:53 AM

The Saturn launch was four months early and locked out mass-market electronics retailers, department stores, and independently owned game stores. There is no comparison between that and Nintendo simply releasing what they have a couple of weeks early.

Early launches not withstanding, how are the mom-and-pop stores doing these days? Are they getting hardware allocations for launches? Or is 99% of the hardware going to Sears/Penny's/WalMart/Sams/Fry's/SamGoody/
Tweeter/Costco/Target/BestBuy/CircuitCity and the national toy and game chains?

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#9 of 29 Cameron Seaman

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Posted October 26 2001 - 09:20 AM

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Metal Gear Solid 2 is complete, yet Konami hasn't released it yet. Why would they wait a month to do so? Because that's the way it works.

If I were Sony, I'd wait on releasing it too. Metal Gear Solid 2 is, without a question, their biggest title, so why not wait until the competitor's hardware launch gets closer and release it then? Wouldn't that be the best strategy to combat two new gaming systems from huge competitors?

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Thinking the GCN will come out early is just wishful thinking. They have the consoles in America, but not in stock at stores. There is a difference.

Very true. That's why I have my fingers crossed.

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Stores should have their full GCN shipments a week or so before launch, if not a little less than a week. Some will release it early, but it won't be an official launch.

If Nintendo hasn't already planned to release early, I'm hoping that as November 15 comes around and X-Box is about to be released, Nintendo sends out a memo, e-mail, notice, or whatever they have to do, and let retailers go ahead and sell those Gamecubes they just received a few days earlier.

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Posted October 26 2001 - 09:56 AM

A bud if mine owns one of the top 5 independant stores in the US and he is also Nintendo Direct, and the big N say don't expect them until the 13th, according to my friend. Again they only have HALF of their consoles over here. Also they only have a few games complete and off to manufactoring, sure more will be coming soon, but not the entire launch lineup. There has been talk of Nintendo letting retailers go a head and release them on the 15th, but I think its a store to store choice and i don't think very many stores are ready to launch 2 major consoles on the same day. Hell I know my local Software, Etc boggled the Dreamacast launch so bad my girlfriend got everything she preordered plus 2 extra games and an extra $64.

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Posted October 26 2001 - 11:19 AM

If anything, Nintendo will make larger retailers (like Toys R Us) release the GCN on its launch date and let other places float around the launch date, like they did with the GBA. Releasing it early wouldn't hurt them, but they would probably like for it not to happen.

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Posted October 26 2001 - 01:56 PM

How about I speak for TRU? I run one of their stores.

First of all, GBA did release early at TRU. We sold it a week before the original release date and 3 days before the "revised" release date. Nintendo supported a "sell it as soon as you get it" campaign with GBA.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if we have a "soft release" for Gamecube. In fact, if you read my past posts I've been stating this for quite some time. The fact that there is no real reservation program makes it very easy for Nintendo to allow retailers to sell it as soon as they get it. Has their been any official indication of an early release? No. But I still think it a very strong possibility.

BTW, it's very common for games and consoles to arrive at retailers well before launch date. In fact, my store already has 2 Xbox games in stock (Fusion Frenzy & ...I forget the other one). GCN games appear to begin hitting within a week or so. PS2 consoles showed up at my store about 2 weeks before launch, Dreamcast came in about 1 week prior to launch. It's no big deal.

One thing is for certain in the retail world: you can count on Circuit City to launch at least one day after release date. They just can't seem to get things together over there. Posted Image

#13 of 29 Morgan Jolley

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Posted October 27 2001 - 07:04 AM

Camp-

You're right about CC. I bought Devil May Cry there the first day they had it, which was the day after it came out. I remember that when my dad stood in line for a PS2 at 7 AM, one of the guys there was from CC because they wouldn't let him buy one at CC and they weren't selling them until the next day.

I think Nintendo will do a "soft release" but they won't actually pull the date or do a surprise launch.

#14 of 29 Steve J

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Posted October 27 2001 - 01:37 PM

What's the liklihood that EB will allow early pick up of preordered systems? Nill?

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Posted October 27 2001 - 04:57 PM

If they get them in early, I don't see why not.

The third quarter ends on November 3rd. Obviously, it's been a horrible quarter for most retailers. I think several chains will be drooling at the prospect of an early launch just to put the 3rd quarter behind them. Start the 4th quarter off with a bang and look forward to Christmas.

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Posted October 29 2001 - 04:33 AM

Hey Camp,

Do you think if TRU ends up putting their Cubes out on the 18th, they'll open early (like, maybe at midnight?).

I'm just trying to figure out if I have to camp out all night...

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#17 of 29 Camp

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Posted October 29 2001 - 01:35 PM

Sorry. There will be no midnight release for TRU. You can count on that.

That said, if things happen before the "official" street date it won't matter.

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Posted October 29 2001 - 03:09 PM

Steve,
I stopped by the local EB just to ask that very question. I was assured that they are sticking to the release date, although I don't know if that would be the case for each individual location. Having ordered a bundle, I just wanted to make sure they weren't going to sneak it out early and then decide to re-sell those that weren't picked up promptly. When the PS2 launched, I was told that if my system wasn't picked up within 48 hours, they would sell it, even though the balance had been paid in full. How do you like them apples?

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#19 of 29 Joe Rigali

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Posted October 30 2001 - 01:53 AM

The earliest I heard was gonna be the 16th of Nov.

#20 of 29 Iain Lambert

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Posted October 30 2001 - 03:00 AM

Morgan, you said on Friday that Sony were sitting on a complete Metal Gear Solid 2, but they only announced it going Gold over the weekend. With a release in stores only a fortnight away this hardly looks deliberately delayed.
mmm, thats odd.


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