Jump to content



Sign up for a free account!

Signing up for an account is fast and free. As a member you can join in the conversation, enter contests to win things like this Logitech Harmony Ultimate Remote and you won't get the popup ads that guests get. Click here to create your free account.

Photo

Dracula 75th-Should I buy?


This topic has been archived. This means that you cannot reply to this topic.
44 replies to this topic

#1 of 45 ScottR

ScottR

    Screenwriter

  • 2,650 posts
  • Join Date: Apr 01 2000

Posted March 19 2007 - 02:58 PM

I'm so confused by all of the reviews of this title on Amazon. Some say it is the best version yet, and others say that it has been brightened to the point of destroying the mood. There are also comments on the cropping...some say it is excessive and others say it is more centered. Can some of you who own this comment...I love the Universal monsters and I want to own the best version. I know that this film will never look perfect (and maybe it shouldn't..kinda adds to the atmosphere and charm.) Thanks.

#2 of 45 Almir

Almir

    Auditioning

  • 14 posts
  • Join Date: Jan 31 2006

Posted March 19 2007 - 09:20 PM

Well it depends what You want. Dracula - The Legacy Collection (2004) contains all dracula movies, but some documentaries from 75th Edition are not present.
75th Edition has some brighter and sharper picture and extra documentary material, and one additional commentary track.

If You want all movies go for Legacy (2004), if You want more documentary stuff go with 75th Edition.

#3 of 45 Joseph J.D

Joseph J.D

    Screenwriter

  • 2,686 posts
  • Join Date: Dec 04 2001

Posted March 20 2007 - 01:20 AM

I believe that the Legacy collection version is on those double-sided discs that Universal has had problems with in the past. (Never bought that set so feel free to correct me) That should be another thing to consider as well. If you buy that version, you'd best check the discs for freeze-ups before the return date window closes.
Recently watched- Basic Instinct 2, Taken 2, Maverick(1994), After Earth, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo(2009), The Hobbit: The Desolation Of Smaug 3D, The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey EE 3D, Star Wars: Return Of The Jedi, Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back, Star Wars: A New Hope, Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith, Star Wars: Attack Of The Clones

Currently watching- Planet Earth, The Twilight Zone: Season 1, Cheers: Season 6, True Blood: Season 2, Gatchaman: The Complete Series, Simon & Simon: Season 3
 

"If this is to end in fire...then we will all burn together."


#4 of 45 Kramer Lowry

Kramer Lowry

    Second Unit

  • 389 posts
  • Join Date: Apr 19 2004

Posted March 20 2007 - 02:47 AM

Posted Image

#5 of 45 Jeffrey Nelson

Jeffrey Nelson

    Screenwriter

  • 1,052 posts
  • Join Date: Sep 04 2003
  • Real Name:Jeffrey Nelson
  • LocationSeattle, WA

Posted March 20 2007 - 03:35 AM

The old version is also missing the music at the end of the theater scene, after Drac says "There are far worse things...awaiting man...than death." The Legacy version restores this music, as does the 75th. So, if you want the absolutely completely complete soundtrack, you gotta go for the 75th.

#6 of 45 Richard_Gregory

Richard_Gregory

    Second Unit

  • 361 posts
  • Join Date: Aug 31 2005

Posted March 20 2007 - 03:41 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph J.D
I believe that the Legacy collection version is on those double-sided discs that Universal has had problems with in the past. (Never bought that set so feel free to correct me) That should be another thing to consider as well. If you buy that version, you'd best check the discs for freeze-ups before the return date window closes.

You are correct, the Dracula Legacy Collection is on DVD-18 type discs (double sided, with two layers on each side).

It's a great value set, and the only way to get all the movies ("House of Dracula" was previously not released, although "House of Frankenstein" was - you'd have thought they'd be paired with each other but there ya go) BUT you do need to check you don't have problems with playing them. Don't leave it til after the 30 day returns window is over.

AFAIk all the Legacy Collections are on that type of disc, excluding the Creature set.

They're amazing value for the films you get, shame about those crummy DVD-18's though.

#7 of 45 Joel Stein

Joel Stein

    Stunt Coordinator

  • 58 posts
  • Join Date: Jan 24 2004

Posted March 20 2007 - 03:50 AM

I have it and am generally pleased with it. (I also have the original dvd release from way back, but not the Legacy collection.) The clincher for me was the complete soundtrack. The detriments that others have complained about (soundtrack hiss, picture supposedly too bright, framing issues, etc.) don't bother me, but maybe I am less discerning than other folks.

The one thing that kinda bothers me about it is that the only English subs for the Spanish version are for the hearing impaired, so there's unnecessary (for me, as I hear just fine) descriptions of the sound effects.

Oh, and something about Steve Haberman in the new Lugosi documentary kinda creeps me out ...haven't sampled his commentary yet.

#8 of 45 ScottR

ScottR

    Screenwriter

  • 2,650 posts
  • Join Date: Apr 01 2000

Posted March 20 2007 - 04:40 AM

Thanks guys for all of your help. I think I will go with the 75th after all!

#9 of 45 Matt Stieg

Matt Stieg

    Stunt Coordinator

  • 228 posts
  • Join Date: Nov 26 2003

Posted March 20 2007 - 07:21 AM

The 75th version is definitely the best for Dracula. I think the picture looks amazing compared to what we've had in the past. As far as the audio, the hiss is pretty bad, but I've found playing around with the audio output on my DVD player a little bit helps.

As far as the Legacy version goes, yes Universal has had numerous problems with their DVD-18's in the past. I've found, however, that if you just let the disc sit on your shelf for a month or two, it will eventually play fine. I went through three copies of the Lugosi collection that all tripped up on some point. Finally I gave up returning it and just let the third copy sit on my shelf, figuring I'd get around to e-mailing Universal and asking for an exchange through them. After a couple of months I took a look at it out of curiosity and it played fine. Same thing happened with one of my discs in the second season of Murder, She Wrote as well as one of the discs in the Hammer collection.

#10 of 45 Joe Karlosi

Joe Karlosi

    Producer

  • 5,994 posts
  • Join Date: Nov 05 2003

Posted March 20 2007 - 08:27 AM

While the video quality was improved, I didn't think the 75th Anniversary release was so much better. I had all three -- the original single, the Legacy Set, and the 75th. What really annoyed me with the 75th edition was the overly noisy soundtrack hiss which was distracting for me, so I actually sold off this DVD.

I did a comparison for myself (it's all a matter of opinion) and I have found I prefer actually watching/listening to the original '90s single DVD of DRACULA even though the music cue is missing. While it is missing the music in that one moment, it does contain Renfield's screams as he's being killed (NOT on the Legacy Set).

#11 of 45 Fabien Renelli

Fabien Renelli

    Stunt Coordinator

  • 194 posts
  • Join Date: Jul 27 2005

Posted June 01 2008 - 06:27 AM

Is the music missing from the '99 DVD huge or is it just a few notes at the end of the cue?

I am deeply bothered by the missing screams of Reinfield and Dracula listed for the '04 Legacy.

So I don't know what to buy. The 50th Anniversary seems a shame due to its technical faults.

I am all the more interested by Dracula (and the Spanish version), Frankenstein and The Bride of Frankenstein. I wonder what is better: buying the three individual DVDs or the Legacy sets? I don't know if the sequels are worth it: I read one time in a French review that each sequel of each franchise is a masterpiece in itself, but I more often read that they are quite bad.

May I have some advice, please? Thanks! Posted Image
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

#12 of 45 James 'Tiger' Lee

James 'Tiger' Lee

    Second Unit

  • 280 posts
  • Join Date: Mar 03 2007

Posted June 01 2008 - 09:40 AM

For what its worth, the 2002 UK DVD of Dracula has the original transfer but intact audio. BUT the Spanish version was missing entirely

When the Spanish version turned up in the UK Monster Legacy Set, sharing a disc with Dracula's Daughter, its subtitles were HOH only

#13 of 45 Fabien Renelli

Fabien Renelli

    Stunt Coordinator

  • 194 posts
  • Join Date: Jul 27 2005

Posted June 01 2008 - 07:47 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by James 'Tiger' Lee
For what its worth, the 2002 UK DVD of Dracula has the original transfer but intact audio. BUT the Spanish version was missing entirely

When the Spanish version turned up in the UK Monster Legacy Set, sharing a disc with Dracula's Daughter, its subtitles were HOH only
Thanks for the answer.
The UK sets look nice, and the Legacy one seems to include some movies of other franchises too, like Invisible man and Mummy.
Is it the case for the US set?
Do you know if the screams are also missing from the UK Legacy editions?
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

#14 of 45 James 'Tiger' Lee

James 'Tiger' Lee

    Second Unit

  • 280 posts
  • Join Date: Mar 03 2007

Posted June 01 2008 - 10:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabien Renelli
Thanks for the answer.
The UK sets look nice, and the Legacy one seems to include some movies of other franchises too, like Invisible man and Mummy.
Is it the case for the US set?
Do you know if the screams are also missing from the UK Legacy editions?

The advantages the UK set has over the US is that the discs are on DVD-9s rather than the faulty DVD-18s. Dracula is not missing the screams, However it is a lot more pricey than the US set and the only extra films you get are The Mummy, Invisible Man, Phantom of the Opera (1943) and Creature From The Black Lagoon.

However, Universal UK has just released some of them on their own so there's now a cheap way for everyone to pick up House of Dracula, which was absent from the original US lineup

#15 of 45 Fabien Renelli

Fabien Renelli

    Stunt Coordinator

  • 194 posts
  • Join Date: Jul 27 2005

Posted June 01 2008 - 11:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by James 'Tiger' Lee
The advantages the UK set has over the US is that the discs are on DVD-9s rather than the faulty DVD-18s. Dracula is not missing the screams, However it is a lot more pricey than the US set and the only extra films you get are The Mummy, Invisible Man, Phantom of the Opera (1943) and Creature From The Black Lagoon.

However, Universal UK has just released some of them on their own so there's now a cheap way for everyone to pick up House of Dracula, which was absent from the original US lineup
And are the sequels any good to justify the buying of the whole set?
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

#16 of 45 James 'Tiger' Lee

James 'Tiger' Lee

    Second Unit

  • 280 posts
  • Join Date: Mar 03 2007

Posted June 01 2008 - 11:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabien Renelli
And are the sequels any good to justify the buying of the whole set?

I'd say yes. Even the worst is terrific fun!

#17 of 45 Jim Peavy

Jim Peavy

    Supporting Actor

  • 717 posts
  • Join Date: Aug 12 2002

Posted June 02 2008 - 01:20 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabien Renelli
And are the sequels any good to justify the buying of the whole set?
I think Dracula's Daughter is good, and Son of Dracula is terrific. Re: the latter, I'm glad no one let on to Robert Siodmak that he was just making a B-movie "spooker", 'cause he infuses it with some of the best visuals and themes of any of the Universal horror canon. Well acted, too. It's very much worth your time.

House of Drac is pretty bad, on the other hand...

I just picked up a sealed 75th Anniv. edition on eBay for $13.99, shipped - a pretty good deal. Looking forward to checking it out. Though it garnered some controversy on DVD Beaver, the screen caps they posted look quite a bit better to my eyes than the Legacy Collection ones.

Has anybody gotten the 75th Anniv. Frankenstein? I've never heard anything re: that.
"I just pre-ordered I DRINK YOUR BLOOD, even though I have no job."

#18 of 45 Fabien Renelli

Fabien Renelli

    Stunt Coordinator

  • 194 posts
  • Join Date: Jul 27 2005

Posted June 02 2008 - 05:19 AM

Thanks. And how good are the sequels to the Frankenstein and Wolf-man sets?
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

#19 of 45 Eric Peterson

Eric Peterson

    Screenwriter

  • 2,959 posts
  • Join Date: Aug 02 2001

Posted June 02 2008 - 07:46 AM

Thanks. And how good are the sequels to the Frankenstein and Wolf-man sets?


I've never watched any of the other wolfman movies, but for my money "Son of Frankenstein" is the best of all the Frankie movies and is heavily referenced in Mel Brooks' "Young Frankenstein"

#20 of 45 James 'Tiger' Lee

James 'Tiger' Lee

    Second Unit

  • 280 posts
  • Join Date: Mar 03 2007

Posted June 02 2008 - 10:43 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabien Renelli
Thanks. And how good are the sequels to the Frankenstein and Wolf-man sets?

Frankenstein and Wolf Man official sequels are all worth it, especially as they tie in with the Dracula series (well, sort of!)

The Wolf Man set also includes two other werewolf movies: Werewolf Of London (1935) with Henry Hull, which is interesting and has an effective and creepy makeup, and She Wolf Of London (1946), which is utter tosh!


Back to DVD



Forum Nav Content I Follow