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#1 of 35 OFFLINE   tzgq2m

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Posted January 04 2007 - 03:50 AM

I went through my collection of DVD's this week, and was disgusted to find several non-anamorphic transfers. I hope it's because many of my copies are just old, and that new anamorphic versions exist. I've done some homework and added what I think is the UPC to the best anamorphic transfer, but I would really love it if you guys could tell me if I'm buying the right discs. Also, if you could help me find the ones I'm missing, I'd be eternally greatful.

a clockwork orange
beautiful girls
blair witch project
boondock saints - 024543233879
color of money
crow - 786936690804
days of thunder - 097360360042
english patient
eyes wide shut
fistful of dollars
for a few dollars more
game
good will hunting - 717951001498
graduate - R2-PAL Optima (upc?)
great expectations
high plains drifter
last of the mohicans
mission impossible - 097360360042
office space - 024543211990
pi
private lessons
ref
rounders - 786936701548
sliding doors
trainspotting - 786936237658
tres pajaros
troy - 085392841127
truman show - 097360309140

#2 of 35 OFFLINE   Matt Czyz

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Posted January 04 2007 - 04:08 AM

Where did you get a non-anamorphic Troy in the first place? Posted Image

#3 of 35 OFFLINE   tzgq2m

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Posted January 04 2007 - 04:13 AM

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Where did you get a non-anamorphic Troy in the first place? Posted Image

A female Brad Pitt fan gave it to me, I'm going to tell her I watched it and finally give it back now...

#4 of 35 OFFLINE   ChristianB

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Posted January 04 2007 - 04:22 AM

Region 1:

a clockwork orange - no anamorphic DVD exists as far as I know?

beautiful girls - no anamorphic DVD exists as far as I know?

blair witch project - no anamorphic DVD exists as far as I know?

boondock saints - 024543233879 - that UPC is for UMD for PSP - try this UPC: 024543231387 (cool tin packaging too)

color of money - no anamorphic DVD exists as far as I know? (packaging is mis-labeled - states it's anamorphic)

crow - 786936690804 - that UPC is for UMD for PSP - try this UPC: 786936142723 as it replaces the first non-anamorphic DVD release.

days of thunder - 097360360042 - no that's the same DVD in the box set - no anamorphic DVD exists as far as I know? (needs a new version IMO)

english patient - purchase this one - UPC: 786936239065 as it replaces the first non-anamorphic DVD release.

eyes wide shut - no anamorphic DVD exists as far as I know?

fistful of dollars - no anamorphic DVD exists right now but a rumoured Special Edition IS coming!! (about time)

for a few dollars more - no anamorphic DVD exists right now but a rumoured Special Edition IS coming!! (about time)

game - no anamorphic DVD exists as far as I know?

good will hunting - 717951001498 - no anamorphic DVD exists as far as I know in the USA, however the version available here in Canada from Alliance Atlantis is anamorphic

graduate - R2-PAL Optima (upc?) - no anamorphic DVD exists as far as I know?

great expectations - which one? I assume 1998 - - no anamorphic DVD exists as far as I know?

high plains drifter - no anamorphic DVD exists as far as I know?

last of the mohicans - purchase this one: UPC - 024543010883 (with DTS)

mission impossible - 097360360042 - no that's the same DVD in the box set - purchase this one: UPC - 097360420449 as it replaces the first non-anamorphic DVD release.

office space - 024543211990 - that UPC is for UMD for PSP - try this UPC: 024543160892 as it replaces the first non-anamorphic DVD release.

pi - no anamorphic DVD exists as far as I know?

private lessons - despite a recent 25th Anniversary Edition - there's no anamorphic DVD

ref - no anamorphic DVD exists as far as I know?

rounders - 786936701548 - not sure about that UPC but purchase this one: 786936243635 as it replaces the first non-anamorphic DVD release.

sliding doors - no anamorphic DVD exists as far as I know?

trainspotting - 786936237658 - the *new*anamorphic DVD replaces the first non-anamorphic DVD release. Great DVD!

tres pajaros - no anamorphic DVD exists as far as I know?

troy - 085392841127 - hmmm...Troy has always been anamorphic - UPC: 085392841127 is the two-disc set - not sure what Region you currently have. Bootleg maybe??

truman show - 097360309140 - Correct, purchase this DVD as it replaces the first non-anamorphic DVD release.

#5 of 35 OFFLINE   tzgq2m

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Posted January 04 2007 - 04:28 AM

many thanks ChristianB...

By the way, for anyone else looking at the few that are left, any region is fine, as long as it's the best anamorphic copy, thanks.

#6 of 35 OFFLINE   David_B_K

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Posted January 04 2007 - 04:37 AM

Both A Fistful of Dollars and For a Few Dollars More are available in anamorphic Region 2 special editions.

You may want to hold onto the non-anamorphic Last of the Mohicans. I never had that one, and it was apprently a poor transfer. But the current version (with the DTS sound) is the "director's cut" version. I don't remember if the earlier non-anamorphic DVD was the original cut or the director's cut. I'd keep it if it's the original, just to have both versions. If it's the director's cut, then it's just a crappy disc you can get rid of. I kept my Dolby Digital laserdisc in order to preserve the theatrical cut.

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Posted January 04 2007 - 05:07 AM

The Blair Witch Project was released theatrically at 4:3. It was windowboxed in a 1.85:1 frame. It should never be released at any other ratio, so anamorphic enhancement is a moot point.

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Posted January 04 2007 - 05:24 AM

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You may want to hold onto the non-anamorphic Last of the Mohicans. I never had that one, and it was apprently a poor transfer. But the current version (with the DTS sound) is the "director's cut" version. I don't remember if the earlier non-anamorphic DVD was the original cut or the director's cut. I'd keep it if it's the original, just to have both versions. If it's the director's cut, then it's just a crappy disc you can get rid of. I kept my Dolby Digital laserdisc in order to preserve the theatrical cut.

Thanks for mentioning this Dave, I checked mine and it wasn't a director's cut, so it's the cut I want, just not the right transfer. The one ChristianB mentioned is anamorphic, just not the original cut. Some reviewer on amazon.com is saying to buy the R2 version from Warner on amazon.co.uk instead of the R1 versions from Fox, but the R2 version doesn't seem to be anamorphic either. Anyone have an idea if an anamorphic version of the original theatrical version exists in any region?

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Posted January 04 2007 - 05:27 AM

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The Blair Witch Project was released theatrically at 4:3. It was windowboxed in a 1.85:1 frame. It should never be released at any other ratio, so anamorphic enhancement is a moot point.

Regards,

Thanks Ken, this is just the kind of input I need so that I can stop wasting time looking for something that will probably never exist.

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Posted January 04 2007 - 05:29 AM

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troy - 085392841127 - hmmm...Troy has always been anamorphic - UPC: 085392841127 is the two-disc set - not sure what Region you currently have. Bootleg maybe??

That was my point, really--there is no non-anamorphic widescreen Troy. Unless she gave you the full-screen version, of course.

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Posted January 04 2007 - 05:29 AM

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The Blair Witch Project was released theatrically at 4:3. It was windowboxed in a 1.85:1 frame.
I knew it was 4x3, but I didn't realize they windowboxed it. Why did they do that??

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Posted January 04 2007 - 05:31 AM

I have both The Game (251190-361690) and The Graduate (060021-171436) on R2 in anamorphic form.
"Yeah but secreted from what?"

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Posted January 04 2007 - 05:38 AM

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That was my point, really--there is no non-anamorphic widescreen Troy. Unless she gave you the full-screen version, of course.

You're correct, it's a pan and scan full screen version. It definitely needs to be replaced.

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Posted January 04 2007 - 05:42 AM

The Game - R2-PAL - UPC: 3259190361690

You didn't mention these, but I found them (I'm doing what you are doing):

Lake Placid - R2-PAL - UPC: 5039036004879

Armageddon - R2-PAL - UPC: 5017188883146

The following site helped:

http://www.dvdcompar...sons/search.php

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#15 of 35 OFFLINE   David_B_K

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Posted January 04 2007 - 06:26 AM

Ernie, getting back to Last of the Mohicans: I found THIS VERSION at Amazon.co.uk. If the info there is accurate, it is the original cut (107 min. vs 114 min.) and is anamorphic.

I may pick that one up myself.

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Posted January 04 2007 - 06:47 AM

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I knew it was 4x3, but I didn't realize they windowboxed it. Why did they do that??

The same reason that a widescreen movie is letterboxed on a 4:3 display. When the aspect ratio of the film differs from the aspect ratio of the screen, there is going to be some unused portion, which takes the form of "black bars" above and below the image for a letterboxed presentation, or on the sides for a windowboxed presentation.

Modern theaters are not equipped to display 4:3 material, so the only practical solution was to windowbox it within the 1.85:1 frame.
 

 


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Posted January 04 2007 - 07:11 AM

Carl, I just realized my missunderstanding. I thought Ken meant that the DVD was windowboxed. That's why I was like huh?

I didn't realize that theaters can't display 4x3.

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Posted January 04 2007 - 07:22 AM

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Carl, I just realized my missunderstanding. I thought Ken meant that the DVD was windowboxed. That's why I was like huh?

I didn't realize that theaters can't display 4x3.

I can see how Ken's post can be read that way.

As it happens, however, the Blair Witch Project DVD is windowboxed. It's 4:3 encoded (as it should be), but with a black border around all four sides of the image. I presume that the DVD producers didn't want any detail to be lost to overscan, but there's no shot in the film that sticks out as having important details near the edge of the frame any moreso than any other 4:3 film I've seen. The film image also has "rounded" corners instead of right angles. The DVDs windowboxing is perplexing and an exceedingly poor choice, in my opinion.

But at least they didn't encode it in 16:9 and windowbox it within a widescreen frame!
 

 


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Posted January 04 2007 - 10:49 AM

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Ernie, getting back to Last of the Mohicans: I found (link above) at Amazon.co.uk. If the info there is accurate, it is the original cut (107 min. vs 114 min.) and is anamorphic.

I may pick that one up myself.

I'm seriously considering picking that one up too, except it doesn't list 'anamorphic' in the format section...

see these examples of ones I plan on buying that do:
The Game - ASIN: B00005UDUV
The Graduate - ASIN: B00004CYS5

Can anyone verify this disc is anamorphic?

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Posted January 04 2007 - 12:56 PM

The Amazon UK site is sparse on details in the fomrat section, and seldom uses the word anamorphic in the format section. In the review, it says this:

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On the DVD: The anamorphically enhanced 2.35:1 image is a massive improvement over VHS, but still shows considerable grain in many scenes, possibly a result of the film being shot in low, natural light and containing many very dark sequences.

I guess it is sort of a crap shoot. However, it would not be the first time a movie from another region was anamorphic while its region 1 counterpart was not...


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