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Need opinion, Def Tech pro-cinema 80, Paradigm cinema. 90 or Klipsch Quintet III??


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#1 of 15 OFFLINE   Randy123

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Posted December 19 2006 - 06:54 AM

I need to "downsize" my speaker system. I currently have the Def Tech towers (BP10), 2002 center, 12" powered sub, BP2x surrounds, but they no longer fit in with everything else....just too big. I like the Def Tech sound, especially the bi-polar towers, but am open to trying something new such as the Klipsch or Paradigm. I am considering the three sub.sat systems named above. My viewing area is 15x20 but the entire room is 15x30 if that helps.

I would primarily use this for movies, very little music listening. I appreciate your opinions on this.

#2 of 15 OFFLINE   John Garcia

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Posted December 19 2006 - 07:24 AM

None of those sets of speakers is really going to fill a room that large. My room is roughly that large also and I could not see going with speakers in that size range to fill it. To be honest, I was rather unimpressed with the DT ProCinemas. What exactly is your price range?

How about the SVS SBS-01 5.0 package? Maybe an Onyx X-LS 5.0 package or a set of HSU HB-1s?

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#3 of 15 OFFLINE   Randy123

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Posted December 19 2006 - 07:57 AM

Thanks John. That is what I was afraid of. I had thought about trying the Def Tech's 100's and keeping my powered sub if I can fit it in. I would like to stay under $800. The problem with the other brands you mentioned is that I don't have a dealer close by to audition them. I live in po-dunck usa. The brands I mentioned are what I have local access to. I would love to listen to Energy's Take 5 from what I've read about them, but the closest dealer is 3 hours away. Bummer.

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Posted December 19 2006 - 08:42 AM

I had the procinema 100's for 4 years in a 19 x 21 room and they did fantastic for movies as well as HT.I had them with a 200tl def.tech sub.and the c1 center(not the 100 center).I also still have the take 5 in another room and they are no match for the def.tech's.You can go with the 100's or 200's.Just connect them the way def.tech(chet) recommends.I think they are a very good sub/sat system.My .02.

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Posted December 19 2006 - 08:55 AM

That sounds promising Ricky. I am surprised to hear that the Procinema 100's outperformed the Take 5's from everything that I've read about them. I would to simply replace my two towers with the Def Tech Studio Monitor 350's if there is enough room in the entertainment center but I need something small for the surrounds.

Having said all of this, I may still need to go really small in that room, perhaps even smaller than the 100's. That is why I made my original post, to get opinions about the three sat systems. All other suggestions welcome. Posted Image

#6 of 15 OFFLINE   Ricky c

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Posted December 19 2006 - 09:04 AM

The studio monitors would probably be ideal since they can be placed in an entertainment center/wall unit.But if the small speakers are only for surround duty then any of the procinema's like the 80's/60's would probably do.I never heard the studio monitors but i read they are very good especially for what you intend to do.

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Posted December 20 2006 - 12:59 AM

Bump....anyone else please?

#8 of 15 OFFLINE   Arthur S

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Posted December 20 2006 - 05:34 AM

Hi Randy

I agree with John Garcia. I would seriously consider the HSU series. The HB-1 and HC-1.

http://www.hsustore.com/hb-1.html

See the Forum section for additional information on the HC-1. Also note that these speakers are at an introductory price.

#9 of 15 OFFLINE   Randy123

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Posted December 20 2006 - 06:12 AM

Thanks for the input Arthur. I've never listened to the speakers you suggested. I guess I'm hesitant to buy something without being able to listen to them first. Do many people buy speakers without trying them out first? Anyone??

#10 of 15 OFFLINE   Arthur S

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Posted December 20 2006 - 08:46 AM

Randy

Most people are buying their subwoofers without hearing them first, and a lot of people are buying all of their speakers from on-line sources like AV123, Axiom, SVS, etc., etc.

I have bought several pairs of speakers without listening to them first. If you read enough about them you can get a reasonable ideal of their suitability for your purposes.

For a primarily movies system, the differences are not that great. Those who have heard the HSU HB-1 at high-end audio shows have been pretty impressed. The reviews on the HSU web site for the HB-1 are very positive. If I didn't have all my speakers, I would jump on the HB-1 at the introductory price.

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Posted December 20 2006 - 10:33 AM

Basically all of the internet direct companies have a liberal return policy that allows you to audition in home for a period. I did it and I ended up loving the speakers I auditioned and bought some.
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#12 of 15 OFFLINE   Randy123

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Posted December 21 2006 - 01:22 AM

Thanks everyone for your input. I like what I have read about the HB-1's. I will probably either go that route or if I can manage to make my DT center speaker and powered sub "fit in", I may consider just replacing my towers with the DT Pro 100's and using procinema 60's for surround. I was just hoping to be able to go even smaller than the DT 100's or the HB-1's without sacraficing too much on sound. Doesn't sound like that is doable though in a room my size.

#13 of 15 OFFLINE   Arthur S

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Posted December 21 2006 - 02:04 AM

Hi Randy

Anything that is a standout at a high-end audio show should be more than capable of filling your room as long as you cross them over to your powered subwoofer at about 80Hz. I just wish I had a real need for the HB-1s.

I have a pair of HSU VTF-3HOs with TurboChargers and I would really like their MBM and 3 HB-1s, but I have enough speakers...

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Posted December 21 2006 - 04:03 AM

Well definately don't go with the Paradigm Cinema 90. Though I liked it better than the quintets, I would not use the paradigm in a room that large.

Why are you not looking at in Wall speakers? I would think speakercraft would have something in your range that would out pace, or keep up with these speakers.
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Posted December 21 2006 - 04:10 AM

Hi Trey,

Thanks for your input on the Paradigm 90's.

I would rather not get into the hassle of in-wall speakers. I want to be more flexible also to be able to change things around a bit. Maybe in-wall for the rear might be okay.