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Lethal Weapon in HD-DVD. What happened to the sequels?


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#1 of 21 OFFLINE   JediFonger

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Posted June 12 2006 - 01:08 AM

why just release the 1st when everyone expects all 3? and it's hard to complete it when you know the 4th one is coming out.

#2 of 21 OFFLINE   Walter Kittel

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Posted June 12 2006 - 01:14 AM

I would imagine that Warner Bros. has to ramp up their HD DVD production capacity given that HD DVD is in its infancy. Releasing titles across a variety of genres also makes more sense vs. focusing on one franchise, IMHO; at this stage of development.

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#3 of 21 OFFLINE   Shawn.F

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Posted June 12 2006 - 02:48 AM

What happened to being patient? Jesus, they just started putting out HD DVDs, give them a *little* bit of time. At least Warner is starting with the first one, as opposed to starting on the fourth Harry Potter film or the fifth Batman film.

#4 of 21 OFFLINE   Chad R

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Posted June 12 2006 - 02:55 AM

They adhered to the same strategy with the first DVD releases. One film at a time over a period of a few months. It takes time to master and press these things. So, they could give you part one now, or wait a year and put them all out at once.

#5 of 21 OFFLINE   JediFonger

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Posted June 12 2006 - 03:48 AM

if the process was so "easy" and streamlined, they should have mastered these LAST year and have been ready to deliver. hell they were bent on CHristmas release of '05. i realize co. resources/inventory costs/ etc. but still. more film released=faster adoption rate. the reason why most people bought DVD players in droves (regardless of cost) at the turn of the century (1999-2000) is because films like The Matrix and Terminator had been released on DVD. these "killer apps" has just got to appear right away and not... 2-3 after format intros.

DVD came out in what? 97? it took 3 years before the mass started to adopt it and make it the hit it is today. and the cincher was the # of titles. i believe if thousands of films were introduced within the next few months, the adoption rate would be faster for HD-DVD or BR.

unfortunately, if we follow history, then it looks like 2009-2010 before HD-DVD or BR will have any traction and we start to see players come into the $100-200 range (if it is successful). we're complicated by the fact that there is a format war, economic strains and competition from other medias for entertainment dollars. thus, instead of 2009-2010, it's more like 2012-2015. that means the format's DEAD!

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Posted June 12 2006 - 04:06 AM

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if the process was so "easy" and streamlined, they should have mastered these LAST year and have been ready to deliver. hell they were bent on CHristmas release of '05. i realize co. resources/inventory costs/ etc. but still. more film released=faster adoption rate. the reason why most people bought DVD players in droves (regardless of cost) at the turn of the century (1999-2000) is because films like The Matrix and Terminator had been released on DVD. these "killer apps" has just got to appear right away and not... 2-3 after format intros.

DVD came out in what? 97? it took 3 years before the mass started to adopt it and make it the hit it is today. and the cincher was the # of titles. i believe if thousands of films were introduced within the next few months, the adoption rate would be faster for HD-DVD or BR.

unfortunately, if we follow history, then it looks like 2009-2010 before HD-DVD or BR will have any traction and we start to see players come into the $100-200 range (if it is successful). we're complicated by the fact that there is a format war, economic strains and competition from other medias for entertainment dollars. thus, instead of 2009-2010, it's more like 2012-2015. that means the format's DEAD!
If you think the studios are going to invest in making a bunch of software available before the hardware market is ready to support all of those titles then obviously you're on a different plane of thinking than some of us. Bringing any new product to the market is done through a ramp up plan that is executed to meet the supply and demand for that particular product.




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#7 of 21 OFFLINE   JediFonger

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Posted June 12 2006 - 04:58 AM

isn't that what Sony is planning to do? AFAIK, there will be "no" hardware "available" (that is, no a lot of consumers will be able to afford it in this economy) before software is released.

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Posted June 12 2006 - 05:55 AM

As long as the first looks great, I'll be satisfied with that for now.
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#9 of 21 OFFLINE   Robert Harris

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Posted June 12 2006 - 06:19 AM

Holding one's entire library to be all released at once would be both an interesting strategy and a very expensive tuesday for consumers.

If potential buyers were to invest the monies to be spent on a player until the massive release of thousands of titles, the interest derived could easily cover the cost of multiple players.

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#10 of 21 OFFLINE   JediFonger

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Posted June 12 2006 - 06:25 AM

of course not all on 1 day! all us enthusiasts would go broke!

that's why there has to be a sort of marketing strategy involved.

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Posted June 12 2006 - 07:28 AM

Speaking of Legal Wreckin on HD-DVD, does anyone know which version WB will release? I prefer the theatrical cut personally, although if they wanna include both, that's fine by me.
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#12 of 21 OFFLINE   BrandonJF

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Posted June 12 2006 - 08:47 AM

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of course not all on 1 day! all us enthusiasts would go broke!

You just mentioned "thousands of titles" within the next few months. Come on. Can you afford that? Where are you going to put all of those titles? You seriously think retailers are going to devote that much shelf space to a format in the first few months of it's life cycle? Heck, the shelf space at my local Wal-Mart has DECREASED since the launch to make room for more DVDs. They threw the HD-DVDs in this cardboard tray and stuck it on top of a DVD display on an end cap facing the rear of the store.

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isn't that what Sony is planning to do? AFAIK, there will be "no" hardware "available" (that is, no a lot of consumers will be able to afford it in this economy) before software is released.

Yeah, that was their plan. Posted Image That isn't marketing strategy (and I'll believe the software gets launched before the hardware when I see it). That's technical issues. The strategy was to have hardware and software on the shelves at the same time. However, Sony will not have thousands of titles on the shelves by year end, either. Nor would it be smart to do so.

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Posted June 12 2006 - 08:54 AM

There were 4, not three.
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Posted June 12 2006 - 08:54 AM

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Speaking of Legal Wreckin on HD-DVD, does anyone know which version WB will release? I prefer the theatrical cut personally, although if they wanna include both, that's fine by me.

I really liked the sniper scene inclusion on the DC.
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#15 of 21 OFFLINE   JediFonger

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Posted June 12 2006 - 10:20 AM

oops, got it confused w/die hard Posted Image.

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#16 of 21 OFFLINE   Dave Mack

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Posted June 12 2006 - 11:15 AM

I too liked the sniper scene. Made Riggs' character much more reckless and on the edge. I think the his suicde comtemplation was longer and a bit more tense too IIRC. I just hope we don't get another 1080i transfer.

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Posted June 24 2006 - 12:28 AM

I really hope Lethal Weapon 4 comes to HD DVD soon, as that should look pretty darn good in HD.

Especially the scenes of them running through Chinatown and the double team with Jet Li on the docks

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Posted June 24 2006 - 05:03 AM

I'm surprised they didn't use the DC transfer, because I thought it was the newest one.

Mostly, think I bought the DC DVD for the cool foil snapper, less compression, DTS, and the sniper scene.

I had LW4, but I wanted to sell it without losing the sniper scene.

I would have preferred the DC package be carried over in HD, too bad.

Seems like studios (mostly Sony) are making it easy to stick with DVD by putting out weak transfers and no extras.

#19 of 21 OFFLINE   Ed St. Clair

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Posted June 24 2006 - 11:48 AM

A little patience please!
If WB released all four LW's now, LW would make up more than 10% of the entire HD DVD catalog!!! :-0
What kind of sense does that make???
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Posted June 24 2006 - 04:25 PM

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I just hope we don't get another 1080i transfer.

Agreed. I've seen only one review, the one at HighDefDigest, are there any others?


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