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HTF REVIEW: Golden Girls, Season Five

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#1 of 48 OFFLINE   DaViD Boulet

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Posted May 08 2006 - 11:01 AM


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#2 of 48 OFFLINE   Demis G

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Posted May 08 2006 - 06:37 PM

Great review dude! Thanx! I already preordered mine about a week ago from ebay. Let's see if they announce season 6 for a late August release..

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Posted May 08 2006 - 07:57 PM

Yipee! Disney did something good for once, it amazes me how they treat such a classic so shabbily - but hey, we know we'd buy it anyway.

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Posted May 08 2006 - 09:06 PM

It's like the CHARMED DVDs.. just be happy we get them!

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Posted May 09 2006 - 12:39 AM

I wouldn't say the treatment was that bad, as all the episodes have appeared to be unedited, and most episodes from season 3 on have been in stereo.

Enough is enough, Disney. No more evasions or excuses. We DEMAND the release Song of the South on Blu-ray along with the uncut version of Bedknobs and Broomsticks on Blu-ray. I am going to boycott The Walt Disney Company until then. And while you're at it, PLEASE stop dropping DVD/laserdisc extras from Blu-ray releases of other films.


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Posted May 09 2006 - 01:32 AM

One little thing:

"The packaging for season six is just like the previous series"--this is the five season, not the sixth...unless you know something we don't Posted Image

Other than that, I preordered my on Friday and it (supposedly) shipped yesterday. It'll take a while to get here, which is fine, since I'm still working on S4.

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Posted May 09 2006 - 01:41 AM

I watched all over again various episodes from the previous seasons dvds.. timeless.. priceless episodes! lol @ the typos for the sixth season.. although it's true..!

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Posted May 09 2006 - 05:04 AM

Disney are reliable - but they're not pushing the barrier, like Scrubs, so its a shame. I am glad we got some cast participation, I for one would have preffed no special features on the previous sets (if it meant cheaper, or better quality) than what they threw on.

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Posted May 09 2006 - 03:51 PM

I've got bad news. I compared the DVD version of the episode "Like the Beep Beep Beep of the Tom Tom" to a copy of the original NBC airing, and it is indeed edited. After Sophia says "I stole the money and jewelry from her dresser," there is a scene where Dorothy tells Sophia they have to give away the microwave because of Blanche's pacemaker. The DVD version picks up where Blanche storms into the room saying "Where's my money, old woman?" Then after Blanche walks out, Sophia says "for this I'm giving up Cheez Whiz nachos?" That part is also cut from the DVD. What's the email address for Disney so that I can tell them this?

Enough is enough, Disney. No more evasions or excuses. We DEMAND the release Song of the South on Blu-ray along with the uncut version of Bedknobs and Broomsticks on Blu-ray. I am going to boycott The Walt Disney Company until then. And while you're at it, PLEASE stop dropping DVD/laserdisc extras from Blu-ray releases of other films.


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Posted May 09 2006 - 03:52 PM

BTW, anyone who has the network airing of "The Mangicavello Curse" needs to compare it to the DVD version.

Enough is enough, Disney. No more evasions or excuses. We DEMAND the release Song of the South on Blu-ray along with the uncut version of Bedknobs and Broomsticks on Blu-ray. I am going to boycott The Walt Disney Company until then. And while you're at it, PLEASE stop dropping DVD/laserdisc extras from Blu-ray releases of other films.


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Posted May 09 2006 - 03:56 PM

Thanks for the great review David. You are always reviewing here with such expertise and detail, it's really nice, and your time (and I don't doubt it's alot) is always appreciated. I am so happy to see that Disney has finally done something extra that is worthwhile. I guess I tend to be harsh on studios releasing tv series for over 30.00 (a few were 40), and offering not much more than the program itself. The first season's extra with Joan Rivers was a total insult to fans of the show (and no, the costume design was very good, in my opinion, not a joke). I have often wondered why Lifetime TV has what seems like hours of intereviews from when the show ran, dozens of out-takes, and other extras, and not one of those has appeared. In this respect, the first 4 sets were upsetting to me, including the loss of the original stereo on the first two seasons. I suspect the fans have backlashed with some of these complaints. I personally went on a big web-wide spree to every Golden Girls web site and fan site and every club, and all of the webmasters of those sites gave the stereo (or lack of) story front page press, along with the phone number to Buena Vista and their postal office address. I indeed hope that helped us to get stereo at least for seasons 3-on. This is my favorite comedy tv series, aside from Honeymooners and some of the British sitcoms like Are You Being Served. I wonder if Buena Vista will ever reissue the first 2 sets in stereo, I doubt it. But it's nice to have the full-length versions, I never realized how much they cut out. I am so glad Disney has included some commentaries. While I was going to wait awhile to buy this one (finances this month), the commentaries can't wait.....I'll buy one tomorrow.

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Posted May 09 2006 - 04:03 PM

Matthew, I read your post after I wrote my previous one, so I'll comment here. I have seen on many of the episodes after season 2, that there are scenes missing (I also have most of the originals). I think I might have an explaination, of course I could be way off. Seasons 1 and 2 were complete, I found them to be the same as aired on network originally. After that-scenes started missing. I wonder if they lost the stereo masters, and in order to provide stereo, used the Lifetime masters. Many of the episodes on seasons 3 and 4 seem to be exactly the same as Lifetime, and I was wondering where the rest of the footage was and why it was gone. I have compared them (the dvd's on seasons 3 and 4) with the Lifetime showings, and many episodes are exactly the same. When I compare the dvd sets to the original network airings, there seems to be missing scenes on the dvd's after season 2. Maybe I will time them out, the difference between one episodes time on the season 1-2 sets and seasons 3-on...the latger I think will be somewhat shorter. Of course, there may have been a change in commercial time, so that might not be the best way. I am going t, in the next week, go to my original tapes of season 4, and the dvd's and write out the missing scenes. I'll post it here, I justy need some time. David, any comment or opinion on this?

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Posted May 09 2006 - 04:32 PM

I have some season 3 episodes from off of NBC and I didn't notice anything missing in the DVDs. Season 4 has dodgy running times but I don't have as many NBC airings to compare them to. But here's what I could find from "Like the Beep..." -- Beginning of act 2 until "I stole the money from out of her dresser" ———beginning of missing footage——— Sophia: Hey, where's the microwave popcorn? Rose: We gave it away. Since Blanche got her pacemaker the doctor says we can't use the microwave. Sophia: But I love that popcorn! Dorothy: Ma, if we use the microwave, Blanche could die. Sophia: Same thing with Cup O'Noodles? (audience laughter) Dorothy: We're not going to use it, Ma. As a matter of fact, tomorrow the people from Goodwill are coming to pick it up. Sophia: But I love this microwave. I'm 83 years old, do you want me to spend what little time I have left waiting for a baked potato? (audience laughter) time: approximately 30 seconds ———end of missing footage——— from "Where's my money old woman" to "If a 5,000 year old Indian shows up, tell him I want to learn more about his people" ———beginning of missing footage——— Sophia: For this we're giving up Cheez Whiz nachos? (audience laughter) time: approximately 5 seconds ———end of missing footage——— transition to next scene -- total footage missing: approximately 35 seconds

Enough is enough, Disney. No more evasions or excuses. We DEMAND the release Song of the South on Blu-ray along with the uncut version of Bedknobs and Broomsticks on Blu-ray. I am going to boycott The Walt Disney Company until then. And while you're at it, PLEASE stop dropping DVD/laserdisc extras from Blu-ray releases of other films.


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Posted May 09 2006 - 04:42 PM

Dammit! And I was going to pick up S5 this weekend.
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Posted May 09 2006 - 04:43 PM

Well, now I'm confused because I do remember those lines of dialogue from the original NBC airings and I could swear I've also seen some of the same footage in the syndie versions, especially the "cheese whiz nachos" line. I could swear I've heard that line on the Lifetime airings. I have been suspicious for years that there was more than one version of the syndicated episodes. There's a scene from an episode where a little girl tells Blanche that she likes astronauts and Blanche replies "me too". I'm almost certain I've seen reruns where Blanche's line is there and other versions where it's not. Although I had seen syndie versions that aired on local stations before Lifetime picked up the show. I'm wondering if Lifetime received different edited versions ? It still concerns me that this new set has dialogue missing. We need to know who to complain to.
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Posted May 09 2006 - 04:53 PM

David Rain,
Lifetime did get episodes that were edited differently than the episodes which aired on my local CBS station (WRAL-TV, who replaced the hourlong 4 o'clock block with Young and the Restless to compete with Oprah) in the 1990s.

Complain to anyone who will listen, especially to Disney.

I sent an email to Disney telling them. Contact them here:

http://disney.go.com...pport/home.html

Ask them not only to make sure seasons 6 and 7 don't foul up, but to replace the cut episodes on season 5 (and season 4 if RobertSiegel finds any, and hopefully he won't).

Frankly, if I had to choose between uncut episodes and stereo, I'd take uncut episodes.

It makes me sick.

Enough is enough, Disney. No more evasions or excuses. We DEMAND the release Song of the South on Blu-ray along with the uncut version of Bedknobs and Broomsticks on Blu-ray. I am going to boycott The Walt Disney Company until then. And while you're at it, PLEASE stop dropping DVD/laserdisc extras from Blu-ray releases of other films.


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Posted May 09 2006 - 05:15 PM

It's really disappointing to hear that some of the episodes might be indeed cut. Posted Image Looking back, when I first watched Seasons 1 & 2, I would always notice every episode the cut lines/scenes, but then from Season 3 on, I wouldn't notice it every episode... hmmm....

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Posted May 09 2006 - 05:18 PM

BTW, I do not buy the argument that Disney lost the stereo versions of the network-length episodes. Unless they were: A. Misplaced and not catalogued (possible, but unlikely) B. Accidentally erased (also unlikely) C. Kept only on a track separate from the 1" video tapes which has now gone missing or was thrown away (doubtful) Even if this is true, the music cues can be put back in using the original stereo tapes (if they exist). As for other studios, Sony still has stereo tracks for their shows from this era (Season 1 of Embassy's 227, for instance, has every episode in stereo but the pilot). But I digress.

Enough is enough, Disney. No more evasions or excuses. We DEMAND the release Song of the South on Blu-ray along with the uncut version of Bedknobs and Broomsticks on Blu-ray. I am going to boycott The Walt Disney Company until then. And while you're at it, PLEASE stop dropping DVD/laserdisc extras from Blu-ray releases of other films.


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Posted May 09 2006 - 05:39 PM

BTW, in the episode I mentioned, you can check the beginning of act 2 for telltale clues. In the wide shots of the first kitchen scene, you can see the microwave in the back right hand corner, but in the next kitchen scene, it is gone.

Enough is enough, Disney. No more evasions or excuses. We DEMAND the release Song of the South on Blu-ray along with the uncut version of Bedknobs and Broomsticks on Blu-ray. I am going to boycott The Walt Disney Company until then. And while you're at it, PLEASE stop dropping DVD/laserdisc extras from Blu-ray releases of other films.


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Posted May 09 2006 - 05:49 PM

This is very disappointing. The main reason I buy these discs is so that I can own the ORIGINAL and COMPLETE episodes that are no longer aired on television today. If I wanted the Lifetime TV cuts, I'd simply record those onto DVD myself and not bother buying these sets for $30 a pop. To me, this is much more unforgiving than the lack of stereo sound. Ridiculous.





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