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GoodFellas HD-DVD cropped to fit 16x9 HDTV?


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#41 of 46 TravisR

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Posted May 10 2006 - 06:33 AM

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Did you notice the thread title?
Obviously the author of this thread cares enough to start this thread where you posted no one cares!
Don't you find that "funny"?
And on the "on one cares" statement;
Not even the director?
Not the cinematographer?
No fans of the film?
Of coarse your blatantly wrong on this, just read replies to this thread, of coarse people care.
That, to me is funny, when someone say's something that is so utterly wrong.
And, no, it is not true, just because you say its true.
No one speaks for everyone!
Wow, if anyone seems to have the attitude of "it's true because I say so", it's you. I'll give that saying that "no one cares" is presumptious. Let me rephrase it, how often do you hear someone whine about a 2.35 movie being presented at 2.32? Not often. Why?
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Find a director or cinematographer who has a problem with their 1.85:1 films having their mattes opened up ever so slightly to 1.78:1, then report back to us with your results.
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Every director and cinematographer is aware of this issu, and not one of them would ever compose his film such that it depended on having the aspect ratio exact to the pixel.

This is a non-issue.

Once again, if opening the matte on 1.85 movie is such atrocity, why don't I see more people having a problem with the same thing being done to a 2.35 movie?

#42 of 46 Michael TLV

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Posted May 10 2006 - 09:27 AM

Greetings

I just leave it in the hands of the director and cinematographer who did the DVD transfer and or approved it. If it's okay with them ... it's okay with me.

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#43 of 46 Michael Osadciw

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Posted May 10 2006 - 10:31 AM

this isn't directed at anyone...but I prefer to have the film in the correct aspect ratio. I'm running no more than half a percent of overscan with my projector so I see the two black bars for 1.85:1 films and know when it's been reformatted less than that or to 1.78:1. On my screen, the bars combined are about an inch and a half...not a whole lot, but it's the integity of it all...changing the intended ratio...

...besides, if not many people will see the difference, let us those who can have it correct.

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#44 of 46 Jace_A

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Posted May 10 2006 - 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed St. Clair
If HD DVD is a subset of DVD (as you posted) what is SD-DVD a subset to?
Thanks.

DVD of course. And, as I said, if you had wanted to complain about this issue, you're about 9 years too late. Why weren't you doing this in 1997? You may have at least had a chance to correct the problem then (assuming it is a problem at all). This is not exactly a new issue and just because you only noticed on HD-DVD doesn't negate the fact that the practice is widespread and long-term.

#45 of 46 Ed St. Clair

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Posted May 10 2006 - 12:55 PM

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DVD of course. And, as I said, if you had wanted to complain about this issue, you're about 9 years too late. Why weren't you doing this in 1997? You may have at least had a chance to correct the problem then (assuming it is a problem at all). This is not exactly a new issue and just because you only noticed on HD-DVD doesn't negate the fact that the practice is widespread and long-term.
SD-DVD is a "subset" of DVD? SD-DVD IS DVD! Do you know what a "subset" is? HD DVD is not a "subset" of DVD. They do have A/V features in common as a "subset" would require, however HD DVD has A/V features that (SD) DVD does not. A "subset" contains only common features, not un-common features.
I knew OAR was a problem before 1997. Why do you say I just noticed it?
Is it because you confused my hope/desire to have the problems that were associated with DVD, not appear on HD on disc?
Read my post before you falsely post things you know about me.
Just because a practice is "long-term" on DVD does not mean it has to become a "long-term" practice on HD on disc. You are aware of that, I hope!
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#46 of 46 Ed St. Clair

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Posted May 10 2006 - 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael TLV
Greetings

I just leave it in the hands of the director and cinematographer who did the DVD transfer and or approved it. If it's okay with them ... it's okay with me.

Regards
Wouldn't it be great if it was just that easy; Director approved AR.
Just some people freaked about what Kubrick did with AR on DVD & some are not happy with what Coppola has allowed for AR on DVD.
So it is not it even that simple, unfortunately.

Someone also pointed out how varied a theater presentation can be. Which is correct. My definition of OAR was poorly worded. I should have said the "originally" intended aspect ratio. As I've seen films in theaters where the subtitles were completely cut off at the bottom of the screen!
Movies are: "The Greatest Artform".
HD should be for EVERYONE!


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