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#1 of 28 OFFLINE   Dennis*G

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Posted February 20 2006 - 03:42 AM

http://news.com.com/....l?tag=nefd.top

PS3 delayed for 6-12 months and price could be around $900, though I'm sure Sony would eat some of that cost.

If it actually takes 12 months to get to the US and they miss the christmas season of 2006, I think it will not have much support.

#2 of 28 OFFLINE   BrianB

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Posted February 20 2006 - 04:12 AM

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PS3 delayed for 6-12 months

When did Sony announce this?
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#3 of 28 OFFLINE   RANDY FISHER

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Posted February 20 2006 - 06:37 AM

This is pure speculation from an industry analyst. I also doubt that Sony will have any trouble both eating a large chuck of the cost or drumming up support.
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#4 of 28 OFFLINE   Ken Chui

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Posted February 20 2006 - 07:18 AM

Sony has issued a statement rebuking Merrill Lynch's report (link).

#5 of 28 OFFLINE   Dennis*G

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Posted February 20 2006 - 02:08 PM

Sorry, forgot the question mark in the title :b

I knew it was just one source, but I bet they are close at the cost of the system. The blu-ray drives have to be soendy and Sony is going to be eating a large cost.

Guess we will here more at E3.

#6 of 28 OFFLINE   David Williams

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Posted February 20 2006 - 05:19 PM

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Sony has issued a statement rebuking Merrill Lynch's report

Of course they are going to say that but I'm guessing the truth is closer to Merril Lynch's assessment than Sony's tiny rebuttal. I guess we'll see in the next few months whether or not they roll out in Japan on schedule.
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#7 of 28 OFFLINE   Christ Reynolds

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Posted February 21 2006 - 06:40 AM

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Merrill Lynch analysts in San Francisco have estimated that the initial bill of materials for PS3 could approach $900
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PS3 delayed for 6-12 months and price could be around $900, though I'm sure Sony would eat some of that cost.

wrong. the cost to sony could be $900. the price (the cost to consumers) will not be $900. i know you say sony will take a hit on some of it, but either way, the "price" will never be $900.

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#8 of 28 OFFLINE   Daryl Furkalo

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Posted February 21 2006 - 08:03 AM

Another disturbing rumour on the PS3, no 1080p output.

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#9 of 28 OFFLINE   EricW

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Posted February 21 2006 - 08:42 AM

is it known whether or not blue-ray stand alone players will output in 1080p by default?
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#10 of 28 OFFLINE   ChrisMatson

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Posted March 15 2006 - 03:40 AM

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Kutaragi told the crowd at the event that the PS3 would now launch in November 2006 worldwide. That dispelled fears that the console would make it to Japan in time by the fall, but would miss the all-important holiday shopping season in the US and Europe. In fact, Kutaragi explicitly told the crowd of game retailers and journalists present that the PS3 would arrive before Thanksgiving in all territories.

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The SCE president also told the crowd that the PS3 would use a 60GB 2.5" hard disc drive (HDD). A slide show during the presentation said the HDD would will be loaded with the Linux operating system versus Microsoft's Windows OS. The show also said it could be used as a "home server" and be directly connected to the Internet, and be full "upgradeable."

Kutaragi also made it clear that the hard drive will be necessary to play games--Sony is telling developers to make games assuming every PS3 has a hard drive installed. "We view the Hard Drive to be mandatory for the PS3," he said. "Rather than have developers create games for the PS3 with or without the HDD, we will be asking them to develop games as though all PS3s have the HDD installed."

However, Kutaragi revealed that Sony had not decided whether or not the PlayStation 3 would come with the hard-drive pre-installed. "We might end up installing it in all PS3s, though that depends on the market," he said. This raises the possibility that the PS3 could be sold without a piece of hardware needed to play PS3 games--in effect forcing consumers to buy a peripheral for basic functionality.

I am sure they will include the HDD if it is required for functionality. To not include it would be a marketing mistake.

http://www.gamespot....ws/6145972.html

#11 of 28 OFFLINE   Ken Chui

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Posted March 15 2006 - 04:59 AM

Some interesting highlights from Chris' Gamespot link, Techamok.com and Yahoo! News on the official announcement:

- 60GB 2.5" HDD pre-installed with Linux OS (sold separately or included?)
- development kit specs fixed, as of today
- final PS3 development kits will be sent to developers in June
- 10,000,000 BD-ROMs manufacturing capability per month @ the same cost as a 2-layer DVD
- every PS3 game will be on a Blu-ray disc, in an attempt to prevent piracy
- price will not be less than 50,000 yen (~US$425)
- PS3 will have HDMI support from launch
- Sony plans to produce 1 million PS3s a month; 6 million PS3s for FY2006 (i.e. end of March 2007)
- online gaming service named PlayStation Network Platform; basic online service free- full backwards compatibility, hi-res and texture filtering for all titles (similar to what the Xbox 360 does for Halo)
- online service will be working off of GameSpy technology

Looks like the movie studios (which Sony also happens to own and operate - the irony) are partially to blame. From CNET.com:
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Sony will push back the release of its new PlayStation 3 video game console until early November because development of the copy-protection technology for the Blu-ray Disc has fallen behind schedule, the Japan-based Nikkei Keizai business daily said Tuesday.

The Nikkei said consumer electronics makers and movie companies have been unable to reach an agreement on the development of the copy protection technology.


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Posted March 15 2006 - 08:26 AM

FREE online gaming? i'll believe it when i see it. Sony could make big bucks by charging and companies always do what's in their interest. even if it starts out free they'll probably start charging down the line.

still, as an xboxer this could only help as MS may be forced to lower their subscription rates.
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#13 of 28 OFFLINE   Dennis*G

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Posted March 15 2006 - 09:34 AM

Just coming in to post the official anouncment and someone beat me to it. At least they gave some specs to go with the news.

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Posted March 16 2006 - 01:32 AM

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FREE online gaming?

It sounds like the online offering will be a very close copy of Live. There is a subscription level, so the free will probably just allow you to chat and do other non-gaming type stuff. I doubt very seriously that Sony will allow an opportunity to make some extra $$ slip by.

#15 of 28 OFFLINE   Christ Reynolds

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Posted March 16 2006 - 08:56 AM

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60GB 2.5" HDD pre-installed with Linux OS
what does this mean? i ask, because gnu/linux is not an OS, it's just the kernel upon which the OS is built. linux itself will run on anything (my xbox and ipod both run it), but are they talking about a linux based OS, with gnome/kde? i'd love to be able to hook up a keyboard and mouse to the PS3 and use it as a normal linux box. if not, what benefits of linux being preinstalled do we get?

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#16 of 28 OFFLINE   Jason Harbaugh

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Posted March 16 2006 - 04:23 PM

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I doubt very seriously that Sony will allow an opportunity to make some extra $$ slip by.

I would buy a lot more online gaming games if the online service was free vs if I have pay to play online. I dropped Live after being a beta tester because it didn't offer anything for the money especially when nearly every game was being hosted by a paying customer and not dedicated MS servers. I've gamed online for free since the beginning with PC's and I'll probably continue to do it.

It will be interesting to see what is included in this 'free' package. It is based on Gamespy's network so they could come out with the free one being sponsered by ads, while a pay version is out for completely ad free. That's how Gamespy has survived.

#17 of 28 OFFLINE   Ken Chui

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Posted March 17 2006 - 07:00 AM

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if not, what benefits of linux being preinstalled do we get?

Kutaragi did not elaborate on the Linux OS bulletpoint during the PlayStation Business Briefing presentation. Perhaps we'll hear more prior to, or at, E3?


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Posted March 17 2006 - 09:09 AM

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It will be interesting to see what is included in this 'free' package.

From Gamespot's most recent report:

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Basic services for the PSNP will initially be free, like Xbox Live Silver. However, unlike Microsoft's entry-level online service, which doesn't allow gameplay, the basic level of PSNP will provide gamers with the necessary services and functions required for online gaming, according to Kutaragi.

The "basic" service looks to allow users to play games online, user a registered login, take advantage of matchmaking and more. This report from gameindustry.biz sheds more light on where Sony plans to make thier money:

Sony planning to make thier cash from premium content downloads

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It is based on Gamespy's network so they could come out with the free one being sponsered by ads, while a pay version is out for completely ad free. That's how Gamespy has survived.

Gamespy is nothing but a middleware provider. One in a very long list of middleware providers for the Playstation 3. I wouldn't get too hung up on thier name being mentioned as Sony will no doubt have full control of customizing and developing the Playstation 3's interface.

#19 of 28 OFFLINE   Christ Reynolds

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Posted March 18 2006 - 03:56 PM

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Kutaragi did not elaborate on the Linux OS bulletpoint during the PlayStation Business Briefing presentation. Perhaps we'll hear more prior to, or at, E3?
let's hope so, but i wouldnt expect it to be a main point of presentation.

it must be worth including, because the games certainly won't be running on linux.

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#20 of 28 OFFLINE   EricRWem

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Posted March 20 2006 - 01:48 AM

Still some rumors floating around about possible DVR capabilities. Frankly, I hope they don't bother for this reason: Just concentrate on the game machine and don't try to be a Set Top Box to try and please everyone.

In other words: Do a few things "great" vs. doing a lot of things "ok." Posted Image

As of today, I'll be making nearly daily calls to my local stores and be prepared to act quickly when the preorder time frame is given. I suggest anyone else that's even remotely interesting in getting this system do the same.

I can't wait to get Elder Scrolls IV this week! That's like Christmas time for me! Posted Image

I'll be amazed if the PS3 comes out lower than $499, given the hardware it's going to be touting and the "Acceptable margin of loss" on hardware sales.

Obviously, if the PS3 comes out cheaper than that, I will be dancing a jig in the streets. Posted Image


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