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#1 of 142 OFFLINE   Mike*Sch

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Posted February 19 2006 - 01:39 AM

Hello, There seems to be a huge number of "extended unrated" cuts of movies coming out these days. Everyone, including myself, is wondering whether these are legitimate artistic alterations or just marketing scams. I thought it might be helpful to compile a list of alternate cuts that are available (or sometimes not!) on DVD, and what the filmmakers thoughts on those are as compared to the theatrical versions. Does that sound like a good idea? Has anyone else already done this? I did a search on the site and couldn't find anything. Thanks, Mike EDIT: Here's an initial list of director-preferred versions, mainly made up of movies that I have on my shelf right now. I'm sure that there are some mistakes on here. If anyone has any info on these movies, or can think of others to add to the list, please say so. The Abyss: Special Edition The Adventures of Buckaroo Bonzai Across the 8th Dimension: Theatrical The Alamo: Roadshow (LD) Alexander: Final Cut Ali: Director's Cut Alien: Theatrical Alien 3: Special Edition Alien: Resurrection: Theatrical Aliens: Special Edition Aliens of the Deep: Unknown Alien vs. Predator: Theatrical Almost Famous: Untitled Cut Amadeus: Director's Cut American Graffiti: DVD Edition American History X: Unknown American Pie: Unrated American Pie 2: Unknown American Psycho: Unrated American Wedding: Theatrical Anger Management: Unknown The Animal: Director's Cut Any Given Sunday: Director’s Cut Apocalypse Now: Unknown Apollo 13: Theatrical Armageddon: Director’s Cut Army of Darkness: Director’s Cut Audition: Unrated Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery: European DVD Baby Bottleneck: Theatrical Back Alley Opoar: Theatrical Bad Lieutenant: Theatrical (LD) Bad Santa: Director's Cut Basic Instinct: Director's Cut Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker: Uncut Beauty and the Beast (1991): Unknown Betty Blue: Director's Cut Big: Unknown The Big Blue: Director's Cut The Big Red One: Reconstruction The Big Sleep: Theatrical Blade Runner: Final Cut Blade: Trinity: Theatrical Blood Simple: Director's Cut The Blues Brothers: Extended Body Shots: Unknown Book Revue: Theatrical The Boondock Saints: Unknown Das Boot: Unknown (Director's Cut?) Bound: Unrated The Bourne Identity: European Cut Brazil: Director’s Cut Brother: Japanese Cut (Japanese DVD) The Brotherhood of the Wolf: Director's Cut Casino Royale: International Cut (Australian DVD) Casshern: Director's Cut Casualties of War: Extended Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle: Unrated The Chronicles of Riddick: Unrated Director’s Cut The Circus: Recut Version Clerks.: Theatrical Close Encounters of the Third Kind: DVD Edition Commando: Director's Cut Con Air: Unknown The Cooler: Director's Cut (PPV TV) Coyote Ugly: Unknown Crash (1997): NC-17 Crash (2005): Director's Cut Crimson Tide: Unknown Cry_Wolf: Unknown Cursed: Director's Cut Daffy Duck and Egghead: Theatrical Dances with Wolves: Theatrical Dark City: Director's Cut Dark Star: Special Edition Darling Lili: Director's Cut Dawn of the Dead (1978): Theatrical Dawn of The Dead (2004): European Director’s Cut (European DVD) Day Watch: Unrated Dead Poets Society: Unknown Dead Silence: Unknown Death Machine: UK Version Death Proof: Extended Derailed: Unknown The Devil's Advocate: Theatrical (LD) The Devil's Rejects: Director's Cut Die Another Day: Unknown Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story: Unrated Don't Be a Menace to South Central While You're Drinking Your Juice in the Hood: Unknown Duel: TV Cut The Dukes of Hazzard: Unknown Dumb & Dumber: Unknown Dune: Theatrical Earthquake: Theatrical Empire Records: Remix The Empire Strikes Back: DVD Edition Enemy of the State: Unknown E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial: Special Edition EuroTrip: Unrated The Ex: Unknown The Exorcist: The Version You’ve Never Seen Eyes Wide Shut: Unrated (Japanese DVD) Fanny and Alexander: TV Version Fever Pitch: Unknown The Fog (2005): Unknown The Foghorn Leghorn: Theatrical The 40 Year-Old Virgin: Unrated Free Enterprise: Extended Friday the 13th: Uncut (European DVD) Fried Green Tomatoes: Unknown The Frighteners: Director's Cut From Beyond: Director's Cut The Getaway (1994): Unrated Gettysburg: Director's Cut (LD) Ghosts of the Abyss: Unknown Gia: Unknown The Girl Next Door: Unrated Gladiator: Theatrical The Godfather: Theatrical The Godfather, Part II: Theatrical The Godfather, Part III: Director's Cut The Gold Rush: Recut Version Gone in 60 Seconds: Director's Cut The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: Italian Cut The Grudge: Director's Cut Halloween: Theatrical Hannibal Rising: Unknown Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle: Unknown Havoc: Unknown Hawaii: Roadshow (LD) Hellboy: Director’s Cut Highlander: Director’s Cut Highlander 2: The Quickening: Renegade Edition Highlander: Endgame: Rough Cut Highlander: The Final Dimension: Director’s Cut Highlander: The Search for Vengeance: Japanese Cut (Japanese DVD) The Hills Have Eyes (2006): Unrated The Hills Have Eyes II: Unknown A History of Violence: International Hollow Man: Director's Cut Hostel: Director's Cut Hostel, Part II: Unrated I Love to Singa: Theatrical Independence Day: Theatrical Cut Inside Deep Throat: Unrated In the Cut: Unrated Iron Monkey: Unknown It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World: Unknown Jason Goes to Hell: Director's Cut Jaws: The Revenge: Unknown JFK: Director’s Cut Jingle All the Way: Extended Josie and the Pussycats: PG-13 The Kid: Recut Version Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair The Killing of a Chinese Bookie: Recut King Arthur: Director’s Cut Kingdom of Heaven: Director's Cut King Kong (2005): Extended King of New York: Recut Version Kingpin: Unknown Kiss Me Deadly: Restored Kiss Me Stupid: European Cut Kit for Kat: Theatrical A Knight's Tale: Unknown Knocked Up: Unknown Land of the Dead: Director's Cut The Last of the Mohicans: Director's Cut The Last Picture Show: Director's Cut Last Tango in Paris: Uncut Lawrence of Arabia: Restored Leaving Las Vegas: Unrated Legend: Director's Cut Leon: The Professional: Leon Version Lethal Weapon: Director's Cut Lethal Weapon 2: Director's Cut Lethal Weapon 3: Director's Cut Lethal Weapon 4: Theatrical Lifeforce: European Limelight: Recut Version Live Free or Die Hard: Unrated The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring: Extended The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King: Extended The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers: Extended Lords of Dogtown: Unknown Magical Mystery Tour: Unknown Mallrats: Theatrical Manhunter: Restored Director’s Cut MASH: R-Rated Version Metropolis: Restored Miami Vice: Director's Cut Modern Times: Recut Version Monty Python and the Holy Grail: DVD Cut Mr. & Mrs. Smith: Unrated My Darling Clementine: Ford Cut Natural Born Killers: Director’s Cut The New Guy: Director’s Cut New York, New York: Director's Cut The New World: Revised Version 1941: Extended A Nightmare on Elm Street: The Dream Child: Uncut (LD) Night of the Living Dead (1968): Theatrical The Night Watchmen: Theatrical Nixon: Director's Cut Not Another Teen Movie: Unknown The Number 23: Unknown Nutty Professor II: The Klumps: Director's Cut Old Glory: Theatrical Once Upon a Time in America: Director's Cut Once Upon a Time in the West: Italian Version Original Sin: Unrated The Outsiders: Complete Novel Pat Garret and Billy the Kid: 1988 Turner Cut Pathfinder: Unknown The Patriot: Unknown Payback: Director's Cut Pearl Harbor: Director’s Cut Picnic at Hanging Rock: Director's Cut Pitch Black: Unrated Director’s Cut Planet Terror: Extended Raintree County: Roadshow (VHS) Ransom: Unkown Reindeer Games: Director’s Cut The Replacement Killers: Extended Requiem for a Dream: NC-17 Return of the Jedi: Theatrical Return to House on Haunted Hill: Unknown Revenge: Director's Cut The Ring Two: Unrated Rise: Unknown Road Trip: Unknown Robocop: Director's Cut Rollerball: R-Rated Edition Saving Silverman: Unknown Saw: Uncut Saw II: Unknown Saw III: Director's Cut Scaredy Cat: Theatrical Scary Movie: Theatrical Scary Movie 3: Unknown Scream: Director’s Cut (LD, Japanese DVD) Seconds: Restored 1776: Director's Cut The Shining: Unknown Sin City: Extended Sliver: Unrated Spartacus: Restored Spawn: Director’s Cut Speaking of the Weather: Theatrical Spider-Man 2: Theatrical Spun: Unrated Spy Kids: Special Edition Star Trek: The Motion Picture: Director's Cut Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan: Director's Cut Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country: DVD Edition Star Wars: DVD Edition Star Wars: Episode I--The Phantom Menace: DVD Edition Star Wars: Episode II--Attack of the Clones: DVD Edition Star Wars: Episode III--Revenge of the Sith: DVD Edition Stop Making Sense: Unknown A Streetcar Named Desire: Director's Cut Supergirl: Director's Cut Superman: Director’s Cut Superman II: Theatrical Superman IV: The Quest for Peace: Unknown Tears of the Sun: Director’s Cut Terminator 2: Judgment Day: Theatrical THX 1138: Director’s Cut Touch of Evil: Restored Trainspotting: Director's Cut Transformers: Imax True Romance: Director’s Cut Two Girls and a Guy: NC-17 (LD) Two-Minute Warning: Theatrical Underworld: Theatrical Van Wilder: Unknown Van Wilder 2: The Rise of Taj: Unknown Videodrome: Uncut The Warriors: Director's Cut Wedding Crashers: Unknown Where the Truth Lies: Unrated The Wicker Man (1973): Director's Cut The Wicker Man (2006): Unknown The Wild Bunch: Director's Cut WIld Things: Theatrical Windtalkers: Director's Cut Woodstock: Director's Cut You're an Education: Theatrical The X-Files: Extended
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Posted February 19 2006 - 02:31 AM

Sounds like a good idea. The only problem with compiling a list of director sanctioned re-edits is how do you know if these "unrated" cuts were done with or without the director's blessing? Most people know that Peter Jackson sees the LOTR extended cuts as an alternate version of those movies and the long version of Dune is credited to Alan Smithee so it's easy to see what David Lynch thinks of that but who knows what the guy who directed Not Another Teen Movie thinks of the unrated cut of that movie?

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Posted February 19 2006 - 02:46 AM

Travis, That's exactly why I'm doing this. It's hard to keep track of who was involved with what and so on. But I figure if we get input from as many people as possible, the list will be more complete than anyone on his/her own. Maybe some dude knows the director of NOT ANOTHER TEEN MOVIE and he heard him bitching about one day. Who knows? I guess we'll see what happens.
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Posted February 19 2006 - 04:23 AM

Let me start it for you... ALTERNATE VERSIONS without director approval: DUNE (2 alternate versions, both credited to Allen Smithee--one for syndication, the other for a San Francisco TV station) TWO-MINUTE WARNING (credited to "Gene Palmer"; expanded and dramatically altered for television with added subplot) EARTHQUAKE (added for television footage)

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Posted February 19 2006 - 04:30 AM

I've edited the first post to include an initial list. Jo, am I right in thinking that the theatrical version on EARTHQUAKE is the director-preferred version?
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Posted February 19 2006 - 05:22 AM

I don't know if I'd call the extended editions of the Lord of the Rings the "preferred" cuts. The theatrical versions are the "director cuts" of the movies. The extended editions are there as alternate versions. Thats a pretty good list though.

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Posted February 19 2006 - 05:30 AM

In The Two Towers commentary, Jackson states that the Extended cuts have the pacing and depth he'd like to have for the movies as a complete story, but that it just isn't reasonable when considering one movie a year for general audiences. Jackson's been very good at playing politics and keeping New Line happy, but I think it's probably a safe bet to make that he prefers the extended cuts.

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Posted February 19 2006 - 05:54 AM

David Fincher Never said this was his own preferred cut its was a guess based on some notes. The key point to the list should be consent and as Mr Fincher declined to re-cut the movie its not his. Also missing from the list is Alexander D/C and/or the theatrical cut depening on whos word you take on the subject

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Posted February 19 2006 - 06:13 AM

I guess the lesson here is sometimes we just don't know. Posted Image

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Posted February 19 2006 - 06:16 AM

Thanks guys. In the case of Lord of the Rings, it seems like it's one of those situations where the preferred cut depends on the circumstances. But it looks like under ideal circumstances, Jackson would prefer the Extended Editions. This is similar to THE BLUES BROTHERS. John Landis has said the he prefers the extended cut, but would never show it to a theatrical audience because he would be embarassed by the lack of laughter. As for the ALIEN 3 SE, it's not a director's cut. But it is a version of the movie that he was working on. So it seems like it's closer to what he would want than the theatrical version. It's true that he didn't endorse the SE, but he flat out disowned the theatrical cut. Mike, what's the story with ALEXANDER? Who's saying what?
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Posted February 19 2006 - 06:26 AM

What's different about ghostbusters?

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Posted February 19 2006 - 07:23 AM

Well, Warner has been hearing numerous requests to see the Richard Donner cut of "Superman II" and they have authorized it for the "Superman" box set coming out this summer. But since Richard Donner is deep into post-production on his latest movie, he's letting editor Michael Thau, and Warner Brothers do it for him because his hands are tied with the other project. (Donner says that the footage being used is about 70% of the footage he shot.) Donner is relying on Thau to pick out the choice footage to integrate back into the film, so the "Superman II" DC isn't really a sanctioned DC (because he isn't personally supervising it) or a marketing ploy by the studio. It's an amalgam of both.

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Posted February 19 2006 - 07:48 AM

Touch of Evil wasn't exactly director-approved (Welles), but it was at least reconstructed from his explicit notes. Also the Chaplin films with re-cutting: - The Kid (trimmed by two reels, an improvement in my opinion since it took the focus away from Chaplin and Coogan) - The Gold Rush (re-release with narration and without the ending scene) - Modern Times (last verse of Titine cut before general release) - Limelight (one scene deleted) - King of New York (several trims) And Shoulder Arms, Pay Day, The Idle Class, Sunnyside, A Dog's Life, The Pilgrim, and A Day's Pleasure were given new scores and stretch printed for re-release (some as The Chaplin Revue, others paired with re-releases of Chaplin's longer features).

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Posted February 19 2006 - 09:50 AM

I could swear I heard somewhere that not all of the effects shots had been completed in time for the initial release of GHOSTBUSTERS, and that these shots were finished digitally for the DVD. But everytime I mention this, people say I'm crazy. So I'll take GHOSTBUSTERS off of the list until someone proves me right. SUPERMAN II is a really weird case. Who deserves directing credit on that film? I guess there are 2 directors and 2 director's cuts. I'm thinking that I should change the title of this thread. "Director Approved" isn't really accurate for this list. It's much more like "Director Preferred." Essentially, I think this should be a list of the versions that the director's will show to their grandkids. Like, if only one version could exist, which one would they choose? Patrick, do you know if those Chaplin changes were preferred by him or not? Also, which versions are on the DVDs? And just out of curiosity, what's "stretch printing"? I've added a number of movies to the list.
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Posted February 19 2006 - 10:24 AM

Chaplin personally oversaw the alterations. Stretch printing is basically repeating some frames to make a film seem like it's slower (I think it's every other frame repeated). It doesn't look very good, but it's the only photographic way to slow down a film and still run it at 24fps. Digitally, you could probably interpolate frames. The original Image Entertainment/CBS-FOX DVD's were the special laserdisc editions, which returned all of the films, except for The Gold Rush, into their first editions. Modern Times had the extra verse kept only because it was on some preservation elements. It hadn't been part of the film since the premiere. I forgot to mention The Circus. The only change, though, was a new opening credits with Chaplin belting out a song. A Woman of Paris was also re-released with minor editing and a score. It was after Chaplin's death, but he oversaw most of the alterations (I think only the score was conducted afterwards by Eric James). It's also important to note... The Image DVD's corrected speeds and re-instated footage for the silents, but also featured re-edited scores. Since the films were made longer, the musical scores had to be remixed to fit these versions. The MK2 DVD's are all the re-release versions, save for City Lights, The Great Dictator, and Monsieur Verdoux, which were never altered for re-release. Of course, City Lights did have a re-issue in 1988 with the digital stereo re-recording by Carl Davis. Why MK2 didn't include it and opt to re-engineer the 1931 mono track to 5.1, I have no idea.

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Posted February 19 2006 - 03:16 PM

Nice list; was thinking about compiling something similar to this one, myself, here. A couple of general thoughts/observations/random neepery:
On this one, Cameron definitely prefers the extended "Director's Cut" to the theatrical (similar to The Abyss and Aliens), and chose this version for his inaugural audio commentary, as opposed to the shorter theatrical print.

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Posted February 20 2006 - 12:48 AM

Josh, I've heard that there is an introduction to the extended cut on the GLADIATOR DVD by Ridley Scott. What does he say on there? I think that for the time being, we should go with the theatrical cut. On MALLRATS, Smith makes it very clear on the DVD that the theatrical version is better. At times, he's even called the extended cut "The Version You Never Should Have Seen". His intentions for the extended cut were initially to go back and recut the entire movie from scratch, because this is the only film that he did not edit himself. Unfortunately, he quickly realized that the film would have been virtually identical, and handed it off to Scott Mosier. At this point, the two decided to just throw everything in, even though most of the stuff was cut out by them, and with good reason. From what they've said, it sounds like Gramercy screwed them over much more in pre-production than in post. As for TERMINATOR 2, I also was under the impression that Cameron preferred the SE, until I heard that very commentary. On it, he talks about the added footage as being unnecessary. He talks about why he cut the stuff out initially, and even how he doesn't really "miss it" not being in the movie anymore. It's clear that he considers the theatrical version to be the "real" movie, and the SE to be an alternate version for people who might be interested. The funny thing is, I have a friend who is a die-hard Cameron follower, and for years he had been telling me that Cameron preferred the theatrical version. I knew that my friend personally liked the theatrical cut better, and I kept on saying "State your source," thinking that he was just believing what he wanted to. Then the Extreme DVD comes out and I said, "Look! He even did commentary for the SE." And that commentary is what proved me wrong. OK. So maybe it wasn't that funny. I guess you had to be there. I've added THE BIG SLEEP, GIA, KISS ME DEADLY, KISS ME STUPID, and ORIGINAL SIN to the list.
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Posted February 20 2006 - 02:38 AM

That's not true. After the first informal test screening, when there was barely a laugh during the first 1/2 hour of film leading up to the characters getting to the mall, it was decided BY KEVIN to reshoot the opening and cut much of that material. The "long" cut of MALLRATS is not even close to his prefered cut- it's basically the shooting script cut together, but not the prefered, finished cut of the film. There are a few instances in the theatrical cut where Gramercy over-rode Kevin's wishes and had him replace certain takes for "safer" ones, and in those cases, the original, naughtier takes were re-instated into the long cut, but for at least 95% of its running time, the theatrical cut of MALLRATS is Kevin's prefered version. If you really wanted to make the ultimate "Kevin" cut of 'RATS, it would be the theatrical cut, with those few alternate takes from the long version. Vincent

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Posted February 20 2006 - 03:07 AM

not on DVD: Roadshow versions of HAWAII, RAINTREE COUNTY, and THE ALAMO. on DVD: Director's cut of AMADEUS

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Posted February 20 2006 - 03:16 AM

What does this mean? The initial theatrical version is Luc Bessons prefered cut. The extended version was a gift to the fans who wanted to see the cut scenes. It's similar to T2 in that regard.
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