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#1 of 33 OFFLINE   Jack Theakston

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Posted December 19 2005 - 09:54 PM

A box set of the Chaplin Mutuals with Carl Davis' new orchestral scores will be available in June, 2006 from Film Preservation Associates in association with the BFI through Image Entertainment.

Included in the set will be the new documentary about Eric Campbell, "Chaplin's Goliath". Only available in the box set with the Davis scores will be Richard Paterson 1974 documentary, "Gentleman Tramp" (both television and theatrical version), which includes interview footage of Chaplin himself.

New improvements on the set will be the long version of One A.M. and better version of The Rink, based from an original, tinted, and unused 1916 print. Other small fixes will make this currently the most complete versions of Chaplin's "famous 12".

Special features include 82 original production stills courtesy of Jeffrey Vance.
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#2 of 33 OFFLINE   oscar_merkx

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Posted December 20 2005 - 12:28 AM

What is the difference between the existing R1 or UK r2 that is out now ?
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#3 of 33 OFFLINE   Mark Zimmer

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Posted December 20 2005 - 01:56 AM

The new scores by Davis, plus several films are longer or better prints. The old set was LD masters transferred to DVD, so there's a lot of room for improvement.

#4 of 33 OFFLINE   Sammy-G

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Posted December 20 2005 - 08:09 AM

I know it says the scores are new, but I'm wondering if they're at least similar to the ones Davis used to accompany the Mutual clips for Unknown Chaplin. I love those.
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#5 of 33 OFFLINE   Patrick McCart

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Posted December 20 2005 - 08:47 AM

I'm glad I held out on the 7-disc set with the Mutuals and Essanays. I borrowed one volume of the Mutuals from a library... while you can tell the print sources are wonderful, there's a shroud of video noise, chroma, and pixelation over them. And I'll be honest... the scores are fairly awful.

This will be a must-have for me, now.

(By the way, does this mean an improved set of Essanays would happen?)

#6 of 33 OFFLINE   Russell G

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Posted December 20 2005 - 09:10 AM

Wow! I never did get the rpevious set, and always kicked myself for missing it. I'll deffinately drop the money on this!

Great news! Reminds me to watch the "Unknown Chaplin" disc that I picked up last month!

#7 of 33 OFFLINE   Sammy-G

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Posted December 20 2005 - 10:58 AM

I totally agree about the current scores on the Image Mutual DVDs. I'd sooner listen to the Jelly Roll Morton music they put on continuous loop on the cheapo discs.

As for the Essanays, the BFI released them already in R2...I hope that means a R1 release will follow eventually. I'm satisfied with the Image releases for now, so I can wait.
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#8 of 33 OFFLINE   AndrewR

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Posted December 20 2005 - 04:05 PM

Any word on the Chaplin Keystone films?
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#9 of 33 OFFLINE   Chris Cheese

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Posted December 20 2005 - 05:17 PM

That figures. I just bought the Image box thats out now.

I guess I'll wait and see if the upgrade is really worthwhile or not. I'm pretty happy with the current box.

I'm not sure what's new about the Chaplin's Goliath documentary, though.

#10 of 33 OFFLINE   Jeffrey Nelson

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Posted December 20 2005 - 06:53 PM

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As for the Essanays, the BFI released them already in R2...I hope that means a R1 release will follow eventually. I'm satisfied with the Image releases for now, so I can wait.

I believe that the BFI R2 Essanay set utilizes the same masters as the Image discs.

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Posted December 21 2005 - 12:25 AM

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I believe that the BFI R2 Essanay set utilizes the same masters as the Image discs.


Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks for the clarification. Really glad I didn't spring for them on Amazon UK, then.
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Posted December 21 2005 - 01:02 AM

The scores on the current discs don't really bother me, so I don't see myself upgrading. I have already double-dipped on several of these discs, and thought that the last boxset was the defnitive answer.

Maybe, I'll rent one of these and see if the score makes that much of a difference, but otherwise I'll stick with what I have.

#13 of 33 OFFLINE   Mark Zimmer

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Posted December 21 2005 - 07:32 AM

The Essanay discs look fine, btw. They were mastered for DVD after a painstaking reconstruction of these films by David Shepard. There may have been new material that has turned up in the meantime, but nothing major that I know of.

The Keystone restorations are still ongoing; last I heard they were looking at a 2007 release date.

#14 of 33 OFFLINE   Patrick McCart

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Posted December 21 2005 - 07:41 AM

Disregard about the Essanays... I don't know what I confused them with, but I forgot that they DO look great and have Robert Israel scores.

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Posted March 28 2006 - 03:54 AM

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Twelve films directed and written by Charlie Chaplin, with new orchestral scores composed and conducted by Carl Davis! Restored from premier quality original 35mm film! This edition of The Chaplin Mutual Comedies has been restored from the finest surviving 35mm film elements, with additions and improvements from new film materials which have surfaced since Image's previous edition. FEATURED FILMS: THE FLOORWALKER - THE FIREMAN - THE VAGABOND - ONE A. M. - THE COUNT - THE PAWN SHOP - BEHIND THE SCREEN - THE RINK - EASY STREET - THE CURE - THE IMMIGRANT - THE ADVENTURER
SPECIAL FEATURES:

The Gentleman Tramp: This 1975 feature-length film made from the life and work of Charlie Chaplin is narrated by Walter Matthau, with excerpts from My Autobiography read by Laurence Olivier, excerpts from the great Chaplin features, Chaplin family home movies, and scenes of Chaplin at home near Vevey, Switzerland. "This delightful film has captured the quintessence of the artist and his art and has done so in terms accessible to everyone." (The New York Times).
Chaplin's Goliath: 1996 Oscar-winnning documentarian Kevin MacDonald reveals the story of Eric Campbell, the huge Scottish actor who achieved screen immortality as the "heavy" in the Chaplin Mutual comedies.
"The Mutual-Chaplin Specials," an appreciation by Jeffrey Vance, author of Chaplin: Genius of the Cinema
"Making The Gentleman Tramp," a reminisence by Richard Patterson
Stills Gallery: This amazing DVD-ROM gallery contains more than ninety superb, rare images from the collection of Jeffrey Vance, many of them behind-the-scenes shots never before published!

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#16 of 33 OFFLINE   JohnPM

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Posted March 28 2006 - 04:04 AM

Isn't "The Gentleman Tramp" owned by the Chaplin estate? If so, are some of the estate's Mutual elements (assuming they have any) being used for these new DVD's?

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#17 of 33 OFFLINE   PaulP

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Posted March 28 2006 - 04:12 AM

This is a two-disc set, by the way, not really a box-set. On the same date this is also being released: http://www.amazon.co...uct/B000EWBOAE/ - anyone know what this is?

#18 of 33 OFFLINE   Michael Elliott

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Posted March 28 2006 - 07:35 AM

The above link is just all of his shorts (plus THE KID) put together. There are at least four or five companies that have released this type of thing. Some range from $6 to some at $30.

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Posted March 28 2006 - 07:53 AM

All of Chaplin's Mutuals PLUS 2 documentaries on 2 Discs? Gotta be a typo. Unless they're on DVD-18s then I would fear a Universal scenerio.
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Posted March 28 2006 - 08:26 AM

I don't have any Chaplin, so I think this is a perfect starter Posted Image

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All of Chaplin's Mutuals PLUS 2 documentaries on 2 Discs? Gotta be a typo. Unless they're on DVD-18s then I would fear a Universal scenerio.
I think it is a typo. The MSRP doesn't look like a two-disc pricepoint.


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