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Do I need equalization with this frequency response?


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#1 of 10 OFFLINE   GregBe

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Posted September 30 2005 - 06:22 AM

I am not sure how to add my graph here, so I will post my numbers that are the compensated spl's. If someone can tell me how to post the graph, I would be happy to do so. 20hz = 68.2spl 22.5hz= 69.4spl 25 = 74.4 27.5 = 74.7 30 = 76.4 35 = 71.5 40 = 72 45 = 72.7 50 = 69.3 55 = 63 60 = 64.9 65 = 74.8 70 = 73.7 75 = 71.5 80 = 71 90 = 70.4 100 = 70.3 110 = 62.25 125 = 56.2 140 = 62.5 160 = 60 200 = 62 When you look at the graph, it looks great form 110 down through 65. It also looks real good from 50 down through 25. I don't see any real peaks. It looks like there is a dip from 50 to 65. Is this something to worry about? Thanks Greg

#2 of 10 OFFLINE   Brian Fellmeth

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Posted October 01 2005 - 01:58 AM

Your way better off than most. I would be satisfied with that for movies. Bassy music would benefit slightly by flatening that out. I assume these are pure sine waves ? Warbles will make the curve look better than it is.

#3 of 10 OFFLINE   gene c

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Posted October 01 2005 - 02:33 AM

What did you use to come up with these numbers? I'd love to plot my own.
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#4 of 10 OFFLINE   FeisalK

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Posted October 01 2005 - 04:36 AM

Greg, check out http://www.photobucket.com/ to host your pictures, and you can use the [ I M G ] tag for referencing here

Gene, you can do you own with a SPL meter (radioshack, about $40) and some test tones burnt onto a CD.

There's a guide on how to do this on Sonnie Parker's excellent BFD guide about a quarter way down the page (MEASURING SUB SPL LEVELS & USING MICROSOFT EXCEL WORKBOOK). You can download test tones and the excel workbook from there.

Once you have a graph, you might find some peaks (boomy) and dips (loss of sound) in your frequency response, and if there are, you'll WANT to fix it. Posted Image
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#5 of 10 OFFLINE   gene c

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Posted October 01 2005 - 10:35 AM

Thanks Feisal. My list of things to do on a rainy day just keeps on getting longer and longer!
"Everyday room": Panasonic 58" Plasma, Dish HD DVR, Pioneer Elite vsx-23, BDP-23 BR, dv58avi universal dvd player, Paradigm Studio 20 V1, CC-450, Dayton HSU-10 subwoofer.

"Movie/Music room": Toshiba 65" DLP, Dish HD receiver, Marantz 7005, CC-4003, BD-7006, Polk LSI25's-LSi7's-LSiC, 2 original Dayton 10" "Mighty-Mites" subwoofers. (subject to change without notice).
 
Also have  MB Quart Vera VS05 +.....too much to list. Help me.
 
 

 


#6 of 10 OFFLINE   FeisalK

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Posted October 01 2005 - 06:20 PM

haha, mine too but i won't wish a rainy day on anyone Posted Image
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#7 of 10 OFFLINE   GregBe

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Posted October 03 2005 - 04:21 AM

Yes those are pure sine waves I downloaded from the ACI site. I have a one band equalizer on my sub that I can increase the spl at 20 and 22.5 hz to get it really flat from 35 down to 20. The only problem is I lose about 3dB of headroom. I am now trying to figure out if the additional response down low is worth that loss.

#8 of 10 OFFLINE   Sonnie Parker

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Posted October 03 2005 - 07:01 AM

If you guys need your graph hosted, let me know. I'll host it on the BFD Guide and you can use that URL for your image link anywhere you like. I'm lookin' for graphs to place on the page anyway. Just shoot me an e-mail.

#9 of 10 OFFLINE   John Garcia

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Posted October 03 2005 - 08:19 AM

Hey Greg, that's about as good as one could hope for without equalization. Lucky guy...Posted Image
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#10 of 10 OFFLINE   Sonnie Parker

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Posted October 03 2005 - 08:46 AM

I don't know John... these don't appear to be even octave measurements. I rather see some 1/6 octave measurements. Greg, what program are you using? I'd recommend downloading the MS Excel Workbook from the BFD Guide page and taking some 1/6 octave measurements, plugging them into the workbook and let's look at that graph. I see the weak spot at 55-60hz and if it's not a room null then it could be worked out. Another thing is for movies you might want to roll off a little from 65hz out to about 100hz. IOW... work on a house curve to give you a better low end on movie watching. You can get this preset to flat for music if you want and then copy it over to the next preset and work on a house curve for movies.