Jack Platt
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- Sep 17, 2005
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Guys,
Why is it that shows like I Love Lucy and Leave it to Beaver have held up in terms of picture quality over time on TV Land's/syndicated prints of these episodes (for the most part) where as other shows from the same era are in such poor quality that they are barely recognizable?
I also learned through research that most Game Shows from the 50's-60's have been destroyed or are considered "lost." Apparently networks did not realize during those years the marque value of running a game show. So when space became too clogged to store the tapes. (Which I think is a lame excuse) the tapes were destroyed. In fact, estimates range that up to 75% of game shows created up to 1975 no longer exist or are "lost."
A lot of classic older shows are considered gone forever, and some tapes were destroyed or erased without the consent of the show hosts. (Such as some episodes of The Mike Douglas Show.) Johnny Carson's first two years of tapes of The Tonight Show, no longer exist or are "lost." The clips for the Retrospective Specials on the tapes/DVD's had to be recreated from some audio tape that was lent by a home viewer and archived footage found in the vaults. The first two Superbowls are also "lost" in their complete versions and the classic daytime game show versions of Password, which ran from 1971-1975 was erased. The original Match Game from 1962-1969 is mostly gone. Only 11 Original Match Game episodes are known to exist, some in The Libraray of Congress and some on the tape trading circut, which are presumably kinascope copies in very poor quality. For The Match Game (1962-1969 version), about 1100 episodes were produced. Passwoed from 1971-1975 has about 8 episdes on the trading circut, some are which are believed to be vaulted at UCLA, but are considered poor quality. All of the first two years of "What's My Line" are also considered lost or destroyed.
Who made these decisions to erase these shows in the first place? Concerning the "lost" episodes of vintage TV/Game shows has anyone ever bothered to look for them and how much of a demand would this have to a TV collector if they were to turn up? We do know that 16mm prints or a similar back-up medium had to be used. This tells me that somewhere out there these shows may still exist. My question is, where would collectors go to begin to hunt down some of this stuff?
Jack
Why is it that shows like I Love Lucy and Leave it to Beaver have held up in terms of picture quality over time on TV Land's/syndicated prints of these episodes (for the most part) where as other shows from the same era are in such poor quality that they are barely recognizable?
I also learned through research that most Game Shows from the 50's-60's have been destroyed or are considered "lost." Apparently networks did not realize during those years the marque value of running a game show. So when space became too clogged to store the tapes. (Which I think is a lame excuse) the tapes were destroyed. In fact, estimates range that up to 75% of game shows created up to 1975 no longer exist or are "lost."
A lot of classic older shows are considered gone forever, and some tapes were destroyed or erased without the consent of the show hosts. (Such as some episodes of The Mike Douglas Show.) Johnny Carson's first two years of tapes of The Tonight Show, no longer exist or are "lost." The clips for the Retrospective Specials on the tapes/DVD's had to be recreated from some audio tape that was lent by a home viewer and archived footage found in the vaults. The first two Superbowls are also "lost" in their complete versions and the classic daytime game show versions of Password, which ran from 1971-1975 was erased. The original Match Game from 1962-1969 is mostly gone. Only 11 Original Match Game episodes are known to exist, some in The Libraray of Congress and some on the tape trading circut, which are presumably kinascope copies in very poor quality. For The Match Game (1962-1969 version), about 1100 episodes were produced. Passwoed from 1971-1975 has about 8 episdes on the trading circut, some are which are believed to be vaulted at UCLA, but are considered poor quality. All of the first two years of "What's My Line" are also considered lost or destroyed.
Who made these decisions to erase these shows in the first place? Concerning the "lost" episodes of vintage TV/Game shows has anyone ever bothered to look for them and how much of a demand would this have to a TV collector if they were to turn up? We do know that 16mm prints or a similar back-up medium had to be used. This tells me that somewhere out there these shows may still exist. My question is, where would collectors go to begin to hunt down some of this stuff?
Jack