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#1 of 198 Dave_Brown

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Posted September 23 2005 - 07:48 AM

Not the Martha Stewart lame attempt, but the new one with The Donald started last night. Not a post on it started yet?

Really, who didn't see that girl getting the first boot of the new season?


#2 of 198 Jason Harbaugh

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Posted September 23 2005 - 08:00 AM

I was afraid she was going to get a pass because she caused 'friction'. I mean, that's why Ponderosa stayed right? Posted Image

Sure seems like they are just phoning it in now and it has become very formulaic.

Pick your business or location.
Come up with a product (usually off camera).
Show some advertising.
Show one group doing well, another not so well.
Reveal the winner.

There's just nothing that interesting going on.

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Posted September 23 2005 - 08:21 AM

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I was kind of hoping that would happen because this show is not as fun to watch anymore without the friction. But anyway, was she a train wreck or what? She's on a team of all women and she tells Donald, Carolyn and George that she does not work well with women. Either she has never seen this show before, she is a complete dunce or (most likely) she was trying to become the next Omarosa and it backfired on her. And what's up with Donald's hard on of men vs women teams? This is the third time he's done it.

BTW, I'm liking Carolyn now that she has lengthened her hair a bit.
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Posted September 23 2005 - 09:07 AM

As much as I've enjoyed the show, each season it gets a little weaker. This one had a 'jump the shark' moment early when our brilliant, talented business candidates were asked to dash all over a golf course looking for the helicopter. Gee, if I'm looking for a savy business person, I'd really love to see them do well in a golf course scavenger hunt. The tasks are also degenerating into hour long informercials for big companies. It may have had some cache once, but now it seems like cheap advertising.

Glad the lady got the axe; I just love these deperately disfunctional losers who somehow believe they are losers because they 'intimidate others' with their beauty. Puullleease.
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Posted September 23 2005 - 09:59 PM

I agree that the show has become a real big reality show infomercial. The whole time they were in their "really fancy room in Trump Tower" Symantec was on the computer screen behind them. I always love how now whenever Trump tells them to come up with the next big idea for such in such company at the end of the show you start to see ads for that company with this new product line from the company they were just competing at.

The lady that got the axe really deserved it as she couldn't keep her mouth shut long enough to keep from looking like a complete ass. The other gal had a really big smirk on her face at the end though which Trump cut off with his "I wasn't happy with your poor performance either". I was hoping he would fire both of them.

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Posted September 30 2005 - 06:07 AM

This is my first season tuning in to the show, and I'm enjoying it so far. However, I am amazed at how some of these really smart people can make such dumb mistakes. A prime example is the men's print campaign from the second episode. They seemed more like first-year business students than professionals, and it showed in the end product.

Yes, the product placement is a big part of the show, but it is pretty much unavoidable. These candidates have to work for somebody.

I haven't seen a guy really take command or step up during the first two projects, so I'm inclined to say that the 4th apprentice will be female.

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Posted September 30 2005 - 06:23 AM

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Soon you will realize that that is a requirement to be on this show.

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Posted September 30 2005 - 09:34 AM

What is dumb is how their personal animosity clouds their "game-playing" judgment in thinking that the Donald will see things their way.
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Posted September 30 2005 - 12:04 PM

The women's ad was clearly better and the two execs were clearly digging it from the start. When they entered the room I was thinking "here we go again with sex appeal", but their ad was just better. The men for some reason couldn't figure out the appeal of the car, which is strange considering this car is mostly marketed to men, albeit very rich men. I think they were on to something with the one picture that had the car on top reflecting a different color below, but their other concepts needed too much explaining, which doesn't work for advertising. And the PM got stuck on explaining the water concept and couldn't get off of it. It was almost painful. Then he was stupid to take the loudmouth into the boardroom especially after Trump warned him. Loudmouth won't be around too many more shows either Trump predicted and he's probably right. This season's cast is a decidedly stronger group than last season - smart and good looking.
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Posted September 30 2005 - 02:27 PM

I winced when the men talked about the power of water, in light of Hurricane Katrina and Rita. I think the producers also put in a sound effect during that segment to try to ease up on all that talk about the power of water.
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Posted October 03 2005 - 02:59 AM

A prime example is the men's print campaign from the second episode. They seemed more like first-year business students than professionals, and it showed in the end product.


But they haven't worked in advertising, as far as I know. The reliance on advertising in this show is getting ridiculous, leave that to the ad agencies... looks like next week's task is not an advertising task, though, thankfully.

For the record, I didn't think either campaign was very good. You don't market Lamborghini with pictures of the stick shift.

Chris was in idiot to only bring in Marcus in the board room. It was obvious that Chris would be fired when he did that.

I still enjoy the show quite a bit. However, I already dread the season finale, the previous 3 have been some of the most embarrassingly bad hours of TV I have ever endured. I hope they are hard at work right now trying to make this year's finale at least only slightly crappy.
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Posted October 03 2005 - 04:30 AM

But they haven't worked in advertising, as far as I know.
The PM said he worked in Marketing. I found it funny that he's telling the camera that the biggest mistake in marketing are cliches then 15 mins later he's defending his "green with envy" slogan. WTD?

Those guys were so concerned with the messenger that they couldn't see the message. They could not see that there was no central theme to their ads. And that dumb commercial. Who could tell that a legacy model Lambourgini was "morphing" into the new model without having prior knowledge? Then they had a bunch of other cars in the shot of it when it was parked. Totally cheap production.

Anyone else beside me think of the Mafia when they hear the words "italian Inimidation"? Anyone else besides me think that Lambourgini would rather not associate themselves with the Mafia? Well, apparently nobody on the men's team made that connection... Posted Image

I still don't think a woman is going to win this year.

Each season is looking like a rehash of the previous one, but so is Survivor. I am going to keep watching cuz that blond who sounds like she is from Texas sure is easy on the eyes.Posted Image

As for next week's show, I LOVE the challenge: teaching old people how to use a computer. That is going to be great. Posted Image However, I don't see why an executive candidate would be doing pushups infront of people like that one woman was doing in the previews.
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Posted October 03 2005 - 04:41 AM

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Anyone else beside me think of the Mafia when they hear the words "italian Inimidation"? Anyone else besides me think that Lambourgini would rather not associate themselves with the Mafia? Well, apparently nobody on the men's team made that connection...


I was thinking more along the lines of "From the country that brought you Mussolini..."

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Posted October 10 2005 - 03:58 AM

This show is losing it, 4 days and no comments! Posted Image

They have some great-looking women this year, but I think Rebecca is the best-looking of them all. I can't think of another reason she got to stay, after not bringing in Toral, who failed miserably with her presentation. These firings really make no sense. Sure, Jennifer W's event-planning was not great, but she WAS at least in the board room for that.

One thing I would love to see on this show is a competition between the two teams where George and Carolyn assume PM duties. It would be interesting to see how that would go. Posted Image
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Posted October 10 2005 - 04:33 AM

They have some great-looking women this year, but I think Rebecca is the best-looking of them all. I can't think of another reason she got to stay, after not bringing in Toral, who failed miserably with her presentation.
Yup this is my view. She is hot so she stays. The other one wasn't so cya!

Trump has always held the PM accountable when they do not bring the person he would rather fire into the boardroom. According to his history, this should have been a clear cut case of the PM signing her own death warrant.
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Posted October 10 2005 - 09:59 AM

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Trump has always held the PM accountable when they do not bring the person he would rather fire into the boardroom.


True, but I think the reason he didn't fire her for that was because she argued so tenaciously with him and didn't back down even when he told her she was making a mistake. It seemed he liked her toughness. I'm sure her looks didn't hurt either. She does resemble Milania doesn't she?

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It was terrible, completely outdone by the men. It was supposed to be what she does in real life and that is why I think she got canned for it.
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Posted October 10 2005 - 10:28 AM

It was terrible, completely outdone by the men. It was supposed to be what she does in real life and that is why I think she got canned for it.

Yeah, It was a mess. I don't understand how hard it could be: ask Best Buy for balloons and signs and buy a bunch of goodies. Posted Image Oh, and don't write "tethno expo" on the cake decoration! Posted ImagePosted Image
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Posted October 10 2005 - 11:41 AM

Come on the tethno cake girl broke down crying after the team leader just mentioned her name in the boardroom. She was as soft as they come. I could have done a better job than her had I done nothing but picked up a Coors Party Ball.

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Posted October 11 2005 - 02:42 AM

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I done nothing but picked up a Coors Party Ball.


Do they still make party balls? I used to love those things.
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Posted October 11 2005 - 04:43 AM

It would be so easy......
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