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Warning: P&S Alert MGM (Sony) does it again...


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#1 of 64 OFFLINE   TedD

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Posted August 08 2005 - 09:43 AM

For anyone looking to replace their old LD editions of Huckleberry Finn and Tom Sawyer:

Be warned both of these Panavision films are represented on their new DVD releases in a grainy cropped and chopped format!

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#2 of 64 OFFLINE   Ken Koc

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Posted August 08 2005 - 10:53 AM

Oh Noooo!!! I was really looking forward to these. Very disappointing. No Sale.
BTWSony has been rather quiet with the new Columbia titles lately...
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#3 of 64 OFFLINE   Jeff Ulmer

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Posted August 08 2005 - 11:54 AM

What? Posted Image

I too was looking forward to these. Damn you Sony!!!! Posted Image

Amazon will be getting a lot of returns on these I'm sure, as they are still listing both as widescreen.

The Sony site says Fullscreen (2.35) for Tom Sawyer...

#4 of 64 OFFLINE   GlennH

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Posted August 08 2005 - 03:32 PM

Should look simply stunning on those hot new Sony LCD and SXRD widescreen TVs. Posted Image

#5 of 64 OFFLINE   Mike_Richardson

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Posted August 08 2005 - 03:53 PM

For once I did the right thing and hung onto those LDs!!

TOM SAWYER even had extras (commentary with the Sherman Brothers, vintage featurette).

A shame!! Posted Image

#6 of 64 OFFLINE   MatthewA

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Posted August 09 2005 - 02:30 AM

The Shermans have a website:

www.shermanmusic.com

Perhaps you can alert them and they might intervene?

Enough is enough, Disney. No more evasions or excuses. We DEMAND the release Song of the South on Blu-ray along with the uncut version of Bedknobs and Broomsticks on Blu-ray. I am going to boycott The Walt Disney Company until then.


#7 of 64 OFFLINE   streeter

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Posted August 09 2005 - 02:42 AM

Wasn't there a LD commentary with Whitaker, too?

Real shame - lost sale.
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#8 of 64 OFFLINE   RandallV

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Posted August 09 2005 - 03:32 AM

What will it take to get SONY to realize that they are angering their customer base and losing $$$? I honestly hope this isn't arrogance on their part.

Aaron Silverman if you read this, I hope you encourage SONY to read our posts. They don't need to be shielded from how the public feels about them - no matter how unpleasant the reading might be!

#9 of 64 OFFLINE   Jeff Ulmer

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Posted August 09 2005 - 04:26 PM

Has anyone actually seen a copy of these yet, or just the cover scans? The Sony site is conflicting on Tom Sawyer, and has no technical info on Huck Finn.

#10 of 64 OFFLINE   Jesse Skeen

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Posted August 09 2005 - 04:54 PM

I've seen pictures of the back cover saying "Full Screen", but not the actual disc. Wish I hadn't passed up the laserdiscs when they were on clearance!
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#11 of 64 OFFLINE   DanFe

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Posted August 09 2005 - 06:05 PM

I have it in my possession and it is fullscreen Posted Image

I have the laserdisc, but man am I ticked.

#12 of 64 OFFLINE   Joe Caps

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Posted August 10 2005 - 01:43 AM

Dear MGM vid - once again - You suck !!!

#13 of 64 OFFLINE   Jeff Ulmer

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Posted August 10 2005 - 01:50 AM

Okay, thanks Dan. Yes MGM you suck! No sale! Posted Image

#14 of 64 OFFLINE   Cees Alons

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Posted August 10 2005 - 02:01 AM

On many sites it still says "Fullscreen - 2.35" for Tom Sawyer, so I figured it was two-sided.

That's really bad!
Not just the fact that it's P&S (or cropped), but also, and even more, the incorrect information!


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#15 of 64 OFFLINE   DanFe

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Posted August 10 2005 - 04:56 AM

Cees,

That's what I thought when I ordered it, but when I got it yesterday it had only fullscreen written and nothing about 2:35. It's going back to Deepdiscount DVD pronto.

#16 of 64 OFFLINE   Cees Alons

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Posted August 10 2005 - 05:43 AM

Posted Image Mine is coming my way by trains and boats and planes. I cannot send it back too easily... read: inexpensively.

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#17 of 64 OFFLINE   Bill Huelbig

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Posted August 10 2005 - 06:52 AM

I watched it last night, and it is indeed pan and scan. I had no idea when I ordered it - didn't do my homework. The first six minutes were letterboxed for the titles, which got my hopes up, but no such luck. Remember when MGM/UA used to include two versions on one disc? Why can't they go back to that format if they insist on fullscreen versions of so-called family titles?

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Posted August 10 2005 - 07:04 AM

Quote:
I had no idea when I ordered it - didn't do my homework.
Because most sites had it wrong, maybe it wouldn't have made any difference if you had.


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Posted August 10 2005 - 07:44 AM

Dear Sony,

I was all set to plunk down my hard-earned cash for
DVD releases of "Tom Sawyer" and "Huckleberry Finn"
released yesterday by MGM/UA (now part of Sony) but
they only offered the films in full-frame mode even
though both were filmed in ultra-wide Panavision and
originally released in 70mm with 6-track stereo. I decided to save my money.

Everything about the package screamed "done on the
cheap." The original ad artwork was nowhere to be found,
and there was no attempt by marketing to play up "Tom
Sawyer" as a major roadshow musical release complete
with an overture. There was no hype about these
musicals containing music by the Sherman Bros. of Mary
Poppins fame and there were no extras included even
though the laserdisc had a commentary track by the
now-late director and co-composer Richard Sherman.

These titles made no impact on street date. There
were no reviews on the internet and no pre-release
discussion on any of the fansites. And it's clear as
to why. The boxes look like they should be filed with
the 99-cent-store releases.

I am sure these titles will sell a few copies at
the discount stores and die a quick death, whereas with proper handling, attention to quality and minimal additional
expense, MGM/UA/Sony could still have a release that
sold well at WalMart and also attracted a strong
word-of-mouth in the baby-boom collectors' market as
well, giving it a longer shelf-life as "evergreen
titles."

These are major releases with Academy-Award-winning
talent on both sides of the camera. "Huckleberry
Finn" was not a success due to a variety of reasons
back in 1975, but "Tom Sawyer" was a big success. Both films could have been packaged as a double-feature to create a minor "event release" in the marketplace.

MGM/UA should have learned from their earlier debacle
with "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" that widescreen
full-stereo releases from the era of
lavishly-mounted musicals deserve better treatment.

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#20 of 64 OFFLINE   Jeff Ulmer

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Posted August 10 2005 - 07:46 AM

Thanks for confirming the worst. So much for the buyout being an improvement. Posted Image

If Sony f*cks up Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane, which is currently listed on their site as dual format, I may never forgive them.