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Shopping for a "new" pre/pro

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#1 of 8 OFFLINE   Peter Doten

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Posted August 04 2005 - 04:20 PM

Well, with both feet finally in the grave, I have to replace the Nakamichi AV-8 I was using as a Pre/Pro needs to be replaced. I am looking at spending $1500 max. I have no problem with buying used as long as it is a high quality item. Having said that, I would be more inclined to spend say $1100 on a new Outlaw 990 than something that might be "better" but is used. I was looking at picking up a used B&K Ref. 20 for like $350 but that deal fell through so I am back at square 1.

The other equipment that it will be used with:
Carver 505(?) 5 channel amp
PSB Century500i (front left and right)
PSB Century (center channel, older model)
Jamo SW410E (sub)
BIC Venturi 52's (rear)

I have been looking at the Outlaw 990 and NAD T163 for new stuff. Not sure what else would be good. Thanks in advance for the input.


#2 of 8 OFFLINE   John S

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Posted August 05 2005 - 07:23 AM

No responses yet??? I am surprised, so many of us have taken to using an AVR for our pre/pro duties these days perhaps.

#3 of 8 OFFLINE   Lee Distad

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Posted August 05 2005 - 08:57 AM

If you've got the dosh, I'd say go for the Outlaw. Besides, I'd really like to read a review from somebody who's got one.

Off Topic: I just retired my PSB 500i's a year ago after 8+ years of faithful service.

#4 of 8 OFFLINE   Peter Doten

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Posted August 07 2005 - 08:14 PM

Anyone else? Adcom, used Rotel?

#5 of 8 OFFLINE   Carl Gaff

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Posted August 08 2005 - 08:07 AM

Never tried one but always heard good things about the Outlaw pre-pro. How about the Sherwood-Newcastle unit? I owned the previous model and thought it was great.

#6 of 8 OFFLINE   Dan Hitchman

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Posted August 18 2005 - 04:29 PM

Why must you buy a pre-amp right now? Next year will more than likely be the dawning of new products with DTS-HD Lossless & Lossy, Dolby Digital Lossless, and Dolby Digital Plus (all with 8 channel discrete, high resolution modes), besides the newest version HDMI switching. These formats are available on both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD.

This is not a good time to be upgrading pre-amps with one or two new HD disc formats coming on-line in 2006 (dependant upon whether or not a format war will be everted) with these and other features that are necessary in new surround decoders.

#7 of 8 OFFLINE   SteveCallas


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Posted August 19 2005 - 01:20 AM

I think he has to replace it because his current one died. Dan has a point - if you could live with a low level receiver with pre outs for a year or so, you could save a lot of money. At the same time, I have heard nothing but good things about the new Outlaw.

#8 of 8 OFFLINE   ScottRCapt


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Posted August 19 2005 - 01:29 AM

There is a B&K Reference 50 on eBay right now for a Buy it Now price of $1450.00

B&K Reference 50

It's not my unit, I am just watching the sale from afar...

I suspect the Series 1 Reference 50's from B&K will be dropping in price quickly as the current owners upgrade to the Series 2 Reference 50 with PLIIx...

There is a great review of the new Reference 50 Series 2 on Home Theater Spot...

Good Luck!


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