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#1 of 16 OFFLINE   Kenneth Harden

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Posted July 19 2005 - 05:15 AM

http://www.swanspeak.../view.asp?id=32

Big 18" woofer, 8" cone midrange, and 4 ribbon tweeters in a horn.

I have no doubt they would sound fantastic in a large room.

Imagine having three behind a screen in a home theater Posted Image

Any idea how much?

#2 of 16 OFFLINE   KeithMoechnig

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Posted July 19 2005 - 05:37 AM

They're more than your wife wants you to pay. I found the ribbon tweeters at parts express and they're 90 bucks each. I'm not sure how much the woofers are.

#3 of 16 OFFLINE   Kenneth Harden

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Posted July 19 2005 - 05:55 AM

I''m single, bring it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

#4 of 16 OFFLINE   Nhan_H

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Posted July 19 2005 - 06:12 AM

18" and the best they can get out of it is 35 Hz? Posted Image

#5 of 16 OFFLINE   Kenneth Harden

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Posted July 19 2005 - 06:14 AM

Pro speakers!

Actually, if they can really produce 35 Hz., I would be very impressed!

More about the sheer power output - then hand it off to a subwoofer.

#6 of 16 OFFLINE   Nhan_H

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Posted July 19 2005 - 09:05 AM

I don't understand the logic of handing off the lower frequencies to a subwoofer that has a smaller driver???

#7 of 16 OFFLINE   Wayne A. Pflughaupt

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Posted July 19 2005 - 10:36 AM

Yes, 35 Hz is pretty amazing for a pro speaker with a 100 dB efficiency rating! I wonder if you can actually buy these anywhere. I’d be kinda leery about getting a sound reinforcement speaker from a hi-fi company, though. It doesn’t matter how good it sounds if this thing can’t stand the punishment pro speakers typically get.

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I don't understand the logic of handing off the lower frequencies to a subwoofer that has a smaller driver??
That’s easy: Cabinet design. Many pro audio subs use huge horn-loaded cabinets that maximum low frequency output in a way that a standard three-way cabinet can’t.

But why do you assume a smaller driver? It’s no problem finding pro subs with 18” drivers.

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#8 of 16 OFFLINE   DavidCooper

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Posted July 19 2005 - 10:57 AM

I would seriously doubt you can even buy those anywhere.

#9 of 16 OFFLINE   Kenneth Harden

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Posted July 19 2005 - 11:47 AM

Yeah, who the hell sells the whole Swan line?

Look at these!!!:

http://www.swanspeak.../view.asp?id=33

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Posted July 20 2005 - 12:40 AM

tweeter-$56 x 8= $448. midrange-$28 x 8= $224. woofer- $ 93.22 x 8= $568. That's $1,240 in parts alone plus a crossover and a lot more cash for having swan build them. I'd easily say they're over 2-3 thousand dollars.

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Posted July 20 2005 - 02:54 AM

In my mains I have 15" pro woofers and I get good 40hz response - not much below that. But it's easy to forget how deep 40hz really is. The lowest bass note on an electric guitar is 42hz. Pro audio is optimized for high output, low distortion, and ruggedness. Optimize a sub cabinet for LFE and you're set.

My LFE is a typical 90L DIY, 12" and I have zero complaints. The Who's DVD's I've seen so far will literally blow you out of the room, and it's clean, clean, clean. No wonder Townsend has hearing issues.
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#12 of 16 OFFLINE   Nhan_H

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Posted July 20 2005 - 07:20 AM

Thanks for he explanation of Pro Speakers, guys. I didn't know.

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Posted July 20 2005 - 08:20 AM

What about these, I've never seen so many drivers in a speaker. Crazy!!
http://www.swanspeak...view.asp?id=193

Tweeter : 32 Ribbons (RT1)
Midrange : 16 Ribbons (R8)
Woofer : 4x8"(D8)

Imagine the cost of parts alone.

#14 of 16 OFFLINE   Wayne A. Pflughaupt

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Posted July 20 2005 - 11:09 AM

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Once upon a time maybe - five-string basses go a half-octave lower. Posted Image

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Posted July 20 2005 - 02:22 PM

I think I'm -10 at 33, near as my meter can tell. So long as it's clean.

I remember JBL's tech sheet showing a sine wave of 35Hz being reproduced by the L100/4311 at a good power level, it was perfect.
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Posted July 20 2005 - 03:25 PM

Remember pro-speakers have to sound good from very long distances. Household speakers tend to loose much power after a few yards.
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