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#1 of 14 Greg_S_H

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Posted June 09 2005 - 06:29 PM

I'm not much of a console player--have gotten by with just a GameCube for the Nintendo properties I love such as Zelda and Metroid--but I've become interested in the PS2 lately. It started with God of War, but I would like to play other titles such as Katamari and Metal Slug 4/5. I know, that latter would be a really weird reason to get a system, but I love the Metal Slug games.

Anyway, would it be kind of silly to get a PS2 now with the PS3 on the way? I'm thinking if I get a next-gen console, it's going to be the Sony, so I'll probably end up getting it eventually. How far away is it, and it will be backward compatible, right? All the way back to the PS1? If I do wait, should I pick up some of the titles I like now? My experience with console games is that they don't last on the shelves too long. I'm sure God of War will be around, but I don't know about Metal Slug.

#2 of 14 Fredster

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Posted June 09 2005 - 11:00 PM

A new PS2 is costs only as much as a few PS2 games. PS2 games will be playable on the PS3 which is scheduled to be released sometime next year. I'd go for it....

#3 of 14 Chris Bardon

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Posted June 10 2005 - 12:02 AM

You know what, at this point it's probably worth picking up the games and the console. I'm betting that the Ps3 won't be out until sometime next year, so you're looking at probably 8-12 months before you can get ahold of a console, at which point you're probably right about the games being hard to find. You can probably get a used Ps2 for $100 though, which should hold you over until the Ps3 comes out. Given that the Ps3 will probably be about $400 at launch, you may even want to wait a while. There's no need to rush to the next generation if there's still a bunch of games that you want to play in this generation.
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#4 of 14 Greg_S_H

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Posted June 10 2005 - 07:50 AM

Thanks, guys. I hadn't checked prices on the PS2, so I thought it was higher than it is. The PS3 is going to be a little steep for me right off the bat, and my TV isn't ready for Blu-Ray anyway. I'll probably go ahead and get a PS2 soon.

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Posted June 10 2005 - 09:04 AM

The PS2 is a nice complement to the Nintendo Gamecube, you mention Katamari Damacy, but there are other top notch Sony exclusive platform games like Jak & Daxter, Ratchet & Clank, Sly Cooper, Klonoa 2, Ape Escape 2, and one of my favorites of all time, ICO.

#6 of 14 Greg_S_H

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Posted June 10 2005 - 12:26 PM

I'm pretty new to it, so I'd have to start looking into all those games. The good news is, they're probably pretty cheap by now! My problem is, I recently got G4TV, and I'm being exposed to console games on a regular basis. I think with exclusives, the ultimate solution is what most of you seem to have done: get all the systems. Posted Image

#7 of 14 David Galindo

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Posted June 10 2005 - 05:54 PM

The great news: the new slim PS2 is cheaper, has a built in ethernet port, and has some new functions the older PS2s didnt have. So you should definitely get one of the new slim ones.

#8 of 14 DeanC

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Posted June 10 2005 - 06:24 PM

I have decided to own a PS3 from reading so much on it. Revolution I'd not bother as PS3 is going blu ray.

Just buy a PSP for now. Its something neat to have and a thing if you like Sony games. And you can do alot with it.
Im using mine more for listening to MP3 files. Movies are a waste as DVD's are better though. But I have the Spiderman for PSP movie.

#9 of 14 Ken Chui

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Posted June 11 2005 - 05:46 AM

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If I do wait, should I pick up some of the titles I like now? My experience with console games is that they don't last on the shelves too long.

It depends on the title(s) in question. Games such as "Katamari Damacy" and "Metal Slug 4 & 5" can be readily bought at most B&M retailers, and should be available for a while, even when they're discounted. Very few games in the PS2 lineup have low print runs, save limited edition prints (e.g. "Mortal Kombat: Deception" Premium Pack and "Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory" Collector's Edition) and RPGs from Atlus; even then, games such as "Disgaea: Hour of Darkness" and Nippon Ichi's "La Pucelle: Tactics" can still be found via retail and online channels (they are likely closer to MSRP though).

E-tailers such as EBGames.com and Gamestop.com discount popular titles quite often (I picked up "Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater" for $19.99 this way; the current MSRP is $39.99 at places such as Best Buy).

There are online forums that keep tabs on video game price drops. I've picked up quite a few demo discs and games at reduced prices this way, some even free (such as the PS2 version of "Psi-Ops" at Best Buy; it was discounted to $4.99 and I had a $5 coupon good towards any PS2 or PSP game).

Some games will become more difficult to locate via mainstream retail channels (some have a shorter shelf life than others), but just about every game in the PS2's life cycle can be had (even discontinued ones still factory sealed) with a little searching.


#10 of 14 BrionL

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Posted June 11 2005 - 06:25 AM

Hey Greg, have you thought of picking up a 360 when it's released. If not you really should consider it.

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#11 of 14 Greg_S_H

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Posted June 11 2005 - 07:57 AM

I'll have to see some real gameplay footage from the PS3 before I decide between the systems, but it just seems more interesting to me right now. The only things that interest me on the 360 right now are Gears of War and DOA4. The PS3 games look cool if they can live up to the E3 showing, and having Blu-Ray is pretty important.

Well, I'm going to go to Best Buy here in a bit and at least look. Thanks for all the responses.

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Posted June 13 2005 - 01:21 AM

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and has some new functions the older PS2s didnt have


Really? I wasn't aware that there was any difference between the old/new PS2s (other than the on board ethernet and the top loading form factor). Can anyone fill in what these "new functions" are?
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#13 of 14 David Galindo

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Posted June 13 2005 - 01:38 AM

I thought the dashboard had some new functions, could be wrong? Ill check it out.

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Posted June 13 2005 - 03:40 AM

Here's some interesting info I came across from bungiefan on Playstation.com regarding model numbers:
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SCPH 3x00y® models cut the weight of the system down (feels like half the weight of a model 10000 to me), and have quieter fans. They introduced the Expansion Bay, replacing the PCMCIA slot with it, allowing an internal HDD, which still needs a Network Adapter to connect (as both units have always been sold as a bundle in Japan). SCPH 3000y seems to be the launch model for all regions outside of Japan.

SCPH 5x00y cut the weight of the console down again (to me, it feels like half the weight of the model 30000s) and the fan is even quieter. The i.Link port (4-pin firewire, instead of the standard 6-pin firewire) was removed starting with this series. An infrared sensor was built into the system between the Eject and Reset/Power buttons, eliminating the need for an IR adapter in a controller port, as old systems needed to use a remote. This series also marks the first time the PS2s were set to blacklist known unlicensed discs from booting, such as Action Replay/Game Shark (they were the same thing since GameShark came out in North America, until GameShark2 version 3, which is actually another European cheat device known as XPloder, and made by Blaze), Code Breaker, XPort/SharkPort, etc. Only unlicensed discs newer than that PS2 model would boot on such system.

SCPH 7x00y changed the shape of the system, cut the weight again, and lessened the noise of the fan. The system uses a flip-top instead of the tray that all the older models use, making modifications to do disc-swaps to play imports and backups simpler. Controller and Memory Card ports are closer together, requiring a different MultiTap if you need one. The Network Adapter is built into the system now, and no plugs are available to allow a HDD to connect to the system, although the IDE points are still on the system motherboard, and the system can still use IDE, but you would have to solder connectors to them to enable use of a HDD again (it would have to be external since the case is too small for a HDD to fit inside) and you'd void your warranty by doing so. This revision also updated the blacklist of known unlicensed discs, resulting i n the same situation as the model 5x00y series. Also, a blacklist was implemented with the Memory Card ports, making the system unable to use any device in those ports that doesn't support MagicGate (most cheat devices on PS2 used a proprietary dongle to store codes, instead of a Memory Card, and the dongles didn't support MagicGate. Datel cracked the MagicGate encryption and made their new cards support it shortly after the slim models released), making old third-party memory cards unusable on the slim model.






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