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#1 of 14 OFFLINE   Garysb

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Posted May 10 2005 - 07:05 AM

On the back of Season 2 of My Favorite Martian it is stated that 4 of the 38 shows are the syndicated (cut)versions.They say that the original elements could not be located. While it is a shame the uncut versions could not be found, bravo to Rhino for disclosing this on the package and allowing us to make an informed choice as to whether we want to buy this set.
The cut shows are listed on back. As I did not buy this set I do not know which shows are cut.

#2 of 14 OFFLINE   Jeff Willis

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Posted May 10 2005 - 07:41 AM

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While it is a shame the uncut versions could not be found, bravo to Rhino for disclosing this on the package and allowing us to make an informed choice as to whether we want to buy this set.


Ditto on this! Although I'm not getting the MFM set this is a very good thing to see a Mfg'r put on the DVD pack. Thanks, Rhino!

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#3 of 14 OFFLINE   Steve Phillips

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Posted May 10 2005 - 08:07 AM

The affected episodes titles are indeed listed on the back of the packaging. I just saw this set at the store today, and will buy it as soon as I've finihsed the first season set.

Rhino should be applauded for disclosing this up front for sure. Sitcoms online has a review where they state the 4 shows are missing about 90 seconds each, and also appear to be time compressed, so maybe even less than 90 seconds of "content" is missing, if that makes it go down any easier.

#4 of 14 OFFLINE   Dane Marvin

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Posted May 10 2005 - 02:27 PM

Rhino has learned from what they have gone through in the past, even when cuts were not their fault. They are setting a good example for other studios to follow. Between this and offering a replacement disc for the cut MST3K episode for Collection 7, they'll soon be known for their customer service. I know my future purchases from Rhino will be made with confidence.

#5 of 14 OFFLINE   JeffWld

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Posted May 11 2005 - 02:15 AM

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Rhino should be applauded for disclosing this up front for sure.


While I agree Rhino should be acknowledged for upfront disclosure, they flunked the history portion of the test.
The characterization that the original elements could not be located implies a search effort was conducted. However, they don't appear to have looked very hard, or used known resources available to them.

A broadcast researcher/collector pointed Rhino to where they could acquire a complete version of the pilot for the first-season set after a public appeal was issued to determine the whereabouts of a complete version.

When Rhino discovered that they had 4 incomplete episodes for the second-season release, a 2-minute phone call to this same contact would have told them exactly where the complete 35mm prints of this series reside.

#6 of 14 OFFLINE   Jeff Ulmer

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Posted May 12 2005 - 09:17 AM

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When Rhino discovered that they had 4 incomplete episodes for the second-season release, a 2-minute phone call to this same contact would have told them exactly where the complete 35mm prints of this series reside.
Is this an assumption, or do you have first-hand information on this? Are you also certain that Rhino did not contact this source, or that the source or the intact episodes could not be obtained due to prohibitive costs?

#7 of 14 OFFLINE   JeffWld

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Posted May 12 2005 - 11:52 AM

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Is this an assumption, or do you have first-hand information on this? Are you also certain that Rhino did not contact this source, or that the source or the intact episodes could not be obtained due to prohibitive costs?


The source is a close friend and was never contacted. Cost is not an issue here since Rhino's excuse is specified as an inability to locate elements.

#8 of 14 OFFLINE   Jeff Ulmer

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Posted May 12 2005 - 02:53 PM

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Cost is not an issue here since Rhino's excuse is specified as an inability to locate elements.
Thanks Jeff. I suppose that if there had been a substantial cost involved in procuring the original pilot through your friend, that it may have disuaded them from contacting him/her over these episodes, which in turn would allow them to claim they couldn't find them. Of course, although Rhino is not being untruthful in saying they couldn't locate the elements if they didn't call your friend, they certainly didn't take much effort to find them either if this is the case.

#9 of 14 OFFLINE   Duane Alford

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Posted May 12 2005 - 10:32 PM

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The affected episodes titles are indeed listed on the back of the packaging. I just saw this set at the store today, and will buy it as soon as I've finihsed the first season set.


Wow, I've been to 6 stores and have had no luck finding it. Circuit City, Best Buy, and Target have neither season. Walmart only has Season 1. Posted Image

#10 of 14 OFFLINE   Garysb

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Posted May 13 2005 - 02:36 AM

Tower Records had season 2.
It is also available at on line retailers. Deep Discount DVD has it for under $24.

#11 of 14 OFFLINE   Jon_Gu

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Posted May 13 2005 - 08:43 AM

I had the same experience, MFM S2 isn't available at any of my local retailers. I was forced to order it online.

I've had the same problem with a couple of other season releases.

Starsky & Hutch season 3
Wiseguy Vol. 4

I'm concerned that a lack of retail shelf space will lead to reduced sales and kill our chances of future season releases due to slow sales.

#12 of 14 OFFLINE   Greg_S_H

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Posted May 13 2005 - 08:49 AM

I saw this at Fry's today and was going to applaud Rhino for the honest disclaimer. With what you're saying, Jeff, I guess I'll change it to a golf clap. Posted Image Still, I hope companies follow the lead and are more forthright on packaging in the future. Doubtful, I know.

#13 of 14 OFFLINE   JoyceHH

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Posted May 14 2005 - 10:13 AM

Good news for My Favorite Martian fans:

Those 4 episodes mentioned on the packaging ARE complete, just time compressed.

I just got through watching the episodes in question and they do not have any missing footage.

If I may speculate on the reason for RHINO issuing the disclaimer on the packaging,it may have been that when timing the episodes and finding them slightly shorter,they assumed that footage had been cut, rather than realize that these syndicated prints had been "speeded up" to allow more commercials to be sold. But the process left the episodes intact.

#14 of 14 OFFLINE   Michael Alden

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Posted June 11 2005 - 05:52 AM

I'm not that much of an expert on the process but if a show can be sped up to gain time could the process then not be reversed in order to restore the show to its proper speed and running time?


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