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JBL S38s to replace Paradigm Phantoms v2?


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#1 of 11 OFFLINE   Matt Stone

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Posted March 24 2005 - 06:15 AM

Title is pretty descriptive. I currently use a pair of Phantoms and a sub for music listening (CDs and records), and was wondering if it would be worthwhile to upgrade to a pair of S38s. I've heard good things about the JBLs, and I have a friend who raves about them, but I don't want to spend the money if the improvement would be marginal.

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#2 of 11 OFFLINE   John S

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Posted March 24 2005 - 07:24 AM

Hmmm, finding some will be tough.

What don't you like about the phantom V2's? I'm pretty sure they are considered the higher end speaker of the two.

The S38's are not going to be as loud thats for sure.
What sort of amplification are you going to run on it?
Do you feel you have a lot of amp left at the volume you listen to now? The s38's are not efficient speakers by any means. The Phantom line is considered an efficient speaker.

#3 of 11 OFFLINE   DorianBryant

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Posted March 24 2005 - 07:38 AM

The S38's are very efficient at 91db and go very loud without distortion for a "bookshelf" monitor. I have powered some with a Panny SA-XR50 to a vintage yamaha amp bridged to put out 200 true watts...

The s38's are as your freind described. Do a search and check out the professional reviews. Also seek out "JBL Phil" who can give you the total picture...

#4 of 11 OFFLINE   Matt Stone

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Posted March 24 2005 - 08:50 AM

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What don't you like about the phantom V2's? I'm pretty sure they are considered the higher end speaker of the two.


It's not that I don't like them, I was just asking if the S38's would be an upgrade or not.

In any event, I think I'll stick with my Phantoms. I got a hell of a deal on them a couple of years ago (125 shipped), so I don't think I'm in a hurry to replace them.
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#5 of 11 OFFLINE   Mark Russ

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Posted March 24 2005 - 08:50 AM

Well, I can't comment on the Paradigms as I have never heard them, but the JBL S38IIs are very, very good to be a mass market mid fi speaker. Very clean and nuetral sounding and will work well with a wide variety of amps/receivers.

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Posted March 24 2005 - 08:51 AM

I probably should take that back. I really don't remember their efficiency rating all to well. I remember them being 89db, but your saying 91db aye?

http://manuals.harma...w... FINAL.pdf


According to the manual on JBL's site anyways.. 89db...

#7 of 11 OFFLINE   DorianBryant

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Posted March 24 2005 - 09:14 PM

"According to the manual on JBL's site anyways.. 89db..."

My memory fails me! Regardless though of specs on paper, these are some great speakers and from real-world expereince, quite easy to drive...

They can be had for $200 or so when they come up on E-Bay. I can't say they are better or worse than the Phantoms but it may not be an upgrade but just different.

#8 of 11 OFFLINE   John S

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Posted March 25 2005 - 02:42 AM

yep, I agree. Just different.

I wouldn't spend any money if I was happy with my current speakers.

#9 of 11 OFFLINE   Stephen Houdek

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Posted March 25 2005 - 02:53 AM

So you changed your mind in under 3 hours. Why post?

#10 of 11 OFFLINE   John S

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Posted March 25 2005 - 07:29 AM

I think he may have done it, if we had all said.. Absolutely the s38's will blow them away.

But honesty prevailed. I don't have a lot of expeirence with the phantoms. But some research revealed them to be considered a very good higher end speaker, sounds like he got a whale of deal on his too. Posted Image

#11 of 11 OFFLINE   Matt Stone

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Posted March 25 2005 - 09:59 AM

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So you changed your mind in under 3 hours. Why post?


I didn't realize there was time limit on mind changes Posted Image

Seriously though, I asked a question...got some answers, and made a decision. A friend located some S38s and I had to make a quick decision, so I did. As I said before, I'm happy with the Paradigms, but compared to other floorstanders there not as good as my Axiom M40s and not even close to my parents M50s. I was asking to see if it was going to be a worthwhile upgrade. The responses here, coupled with reading on some other sites made me see that the S38s are great speakers, but not exactly a "step up" from what I currently have. I'll just continue to save my money and get something better down the road (Axiom M80s hopefully Posted Image).
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