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#1 of 13 OFFLINE   Jody_R

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Posted March 07 2005 - 03:56 PM

I was actually set to buy a 1014, but the deal fell through and while I was waiting i checked out audiogon... Basically i was gonna get a 1014 cause they're so cheap, but now I'm wondering if it isn't a compromise. I really wanna have top notch sound for music.

There seem to be some B&K receivers floating around for a bit more than a new denon 3805. I don't know much about the brand though. Is B&K comparable to McIntosh? Hell, I'd even go with a 202 if it sounds really good.... I don't care too much about DPLII because I'm only going 5.1 anyway for the forseeable future and for music I intend on using stereo direct.

For music, do you guys think it's worth saving up some extra money? The receiver will be paired with Paradigm Rerference Studio 40 v3. mains, the 470 center, and adp surrounds. My source for SACD/redbook/dvd-a is gonna be a Pioneer Elite 47Ai or a Denon 2900, depending on what i can get a deal on.

Also, with regards to the B&K 505/507, what's the difference? On their website, they only list specs for the 505. Is the 507 just a 505 with a software update or something? I'm also wondering how consistent B&K is in offering upgrades to their receivers. Can anyone guess on the chance that they'll offer an upgrade on the 307 or 507 to DD+/DTS-HD when they are finalized and the new blu-ray/dvd-hd players start coming out?

#2 of 13 OFFLINE   John Garcia

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Posted March 07 2005 - 04:46 PM

In terms of sound, there is no question in my mind that the B&K will sound better than the 3805. It is definitely worth the extra $$ if you want music to sound great, IMO. If you go with the 3805, you will just be upgrading sooner rather than later.
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#3 of 13 OFFLINE   AlbertD

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Posted March 08 2005 - 12:53 AM

The difference between the 505 and 507 is that the 505 has a 5 channel amp and the 507 has a...7 channel amp.

There is already an upgrade for the 307 to the 507, and there will be an upgrade for the 307 to the 507 series 2 this summer. I have a 307 upgraded to a 507 and it has everything I want. Sounds fantastic.

It certainly is opinion but the B&K 307/507/507 series 2 are all in a different class than the 3805. No substitute for a high current amp.

#4 of 13 OFFLINE   Charles Gurganus

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Posted March 08 2005 - 02:08 AM

If music is your priority, the B&K will be the better option. Even better would be an Aragon Soundstage preamp and a seperate amp.
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#5 of 13 OFFLINE   timZa

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Posted October 19 2006 - 04:15 PM

Anyone have any performance or reliability issues with there 307? i was ready to buy a older B&K AVR 207 but some neg reviews turned me off. also the upgrades B&K offer are they DIY?

#6 of 13 OFFLINE   timZa

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Posted October 21 2006 - 05:31 AM

Any B&K 307 owners here? just wondering what the reliability is, and upgrade features.

#7 of 13 OFFLINE   Bob Spears

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Posted October 31 2006 - 10:26 AM

I am a longtime owner of a B&K AVR 307. The thing has been absolutely reliable and sounds great. I was out today looking at some of the newer HDMI capable AVRs and decided that I have enjoyed my current AVR 307 so much that there is no real need to replace it. It is built like the proverbial brick $hit house and after five years still looks new.

#8 of 13 OFFLINE   Tim L

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Posted October 31 2006 - 11:46 AM

I am currently using Reference 50 with 200.7 amp for my main movie watching-I also owned the denon 3805 (which I recently sold to a friend) -honestly I like denon stuff-alot..but the B&K wins hands down-maybe in my example its probably not a fair fight-buts all I have to go on. But the 3805 was sweet and plenty ample for HT movies and music. hey I just recently preordered an HDA2-but with my B&K I cannot receive DD+ or TrueHD because of lack of HDMI on the reference 50-so I am also thinking of maybe swaping out in the near future, damn this new technology. either way you decide you should be very happy-both make fine units.
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#9 of 13 OFFLINE   timZa

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Posted November 03 2006 - 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim L
I am currently using Reference 50 with 200.7 amp for my main movie watching-I also owned the denon 3805 (which I recently sold to a friend) -honestly I like denon stuff-alot..but the B&K wins hands down-maybe in my example its probably not a fair fight-buts all I have to go on. But the 3805 was sweet and plenty ample for HT movies and music. hey I just recently preordered an HDA2-but with my B&K I cannot receive DD+ or TrueHD because of lack of HDMI on the reference 50-so I am also thinking of maybe swaping out in the near future, damn this new technology. either way you decide you should be very happy-both make fine units.
Tim

Is what im wondering is the DD+ or TrueHD sound that much better then current DD? i myself can't tell much of a difference between the DD, DTS,ES etc.if it's DD it all sound the same to me.

#10 of 13 OFFLINE   Tim L

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Posted November 03 2006 - 10:49 AM

Is what im wondering is the DD+ or TrueHD sound that much better then current DD? i myself can't tell much of a difference between the DD, DTS,ES etc.if it's DD it all sound the same to me?

I can't answer that-wish I could, but it seems it wil be a while before I experience it-or at least until I replace my B&K.
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#11 of 13 OFFLINE   Randy C Sr

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Posted November 03 2006 - 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jody_R
I was actually set to buy a 1014, but the deal fell through and while I was waiting i checked out audiogon... Basically i was gonna get a 1014 cause they're so cheap, but now I'm wondering if it isn't a compromise. I really wanna have top notch sound for music.

There seem to be some B&K receivers floating around for a bit more than a new denon 3805. I don't know much about the brand though. Is B&K comparable to McIntosh? Hell, I'd even go with a 202 if it sounds really good.... I don't care too much about DPLII because I'm only going 5.1 anyway for the forseeable future and for music I intend on using stereo direct.

For music, do you guys think it's worth saving up some extra money? The receiver will be paired with Paradigm Rerference Studio 40 v3. mains, the 470 center, and adp surrounds. My source for SACD/redbook/dvd-a is gonna be a Pioneer Elite 47Ai or a Denon 2900, depending on what i can get a deal on.

Also, with regards to the B&K 505/507, what's the difference? On their website, they only list specs for the 505. Is the 507 just a 505 with a software update or something? I'm also wondering how consistent B&K is in offering upgrades to their receivers. Can anyone guess on the chance that they'll offer an upgrade on the 307 or 507 to DD+/DTS-HD when they are finalized and the new blu-ray/dvd-hd players start coming out?
I too own a B&K Ref 50. Reliable? Hell yeah! I started with a Ref 20. I didn't want to spend the money for an upgrade so I just straight out bought the Ref50 and moved the Ref 20 to the bedroom. Both have been bullet prove. They just don't die. I spent hours auditioning B&K against Yamaha and Denon when they were setup side by side at Tweeter. The B&K has less bells and whistles, but the depth, detail and clarity of the sound stands out. The only thing I have ever heard negative is the click you hear when switching from one source to another. That was designed intentionally. If that is a problem B&K also offers a fix for that which will remove the click. Personally I like the idea of knowing I have changed sources with the sound of the click.

I'm not bad mouthing Denon. I like their products, but the 505 or 507 will blown the that Denon you are asking about away.

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Posted November 04 2006 - 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy C Sr

I'm not bad mouthing Denon. I like their products, but the 505 or 507 will blown the that Denon you are asking about away.


I have to stop reading the forums on this site. I keep wanting to upgrade a couple things, but can't right now. (owner of a 3805 that I love, but can't help but wonder what I'm miissing).... I believe the medical term for this is upgraditis. I'm fully infected! Posted Image
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#13 of 13 OFFLINE   Tim L

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Posted November 05 2006 - 12:53 AM

nothing to do with this thread- but I just noticed in my profile that I joined HTF forum in 1970? I guess i better look into that
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