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HTF REVIEW: Star Trek: First Contact - Special Collector's Edition (Recommended)



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#1 of 147 OFFLINE   Scott Kimball

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Posted March 05 2005 - 03:54 AM

hmm, no deleted scenes. ialways thought there was a rumor of an extended battle sequence in the begining. guess not. cant wait to add this to my coollection.
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Posted March 05 2005 - 04:06 AM

I've been waiting for this SCE for years and it's almost here. Amazing DTS track to boot you say? Can't wait!

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Posted March 05 2005 - 04:48 AM

While this a must get for me, I am very disappointed in the lack of deleted scenes. As long as it takes for these CEs to come out, there is absolutely no damn reason not to include some. And I really wish they would do away with the brushed silver border. I don't mind very small borders(I infact like minor borders because it actually aids in the visual appeal), but large ones tend to overpower the artwork. Knitpicking aside, I've been waiting for this one for awhile.

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Posted March 05 2005 - 04:57 AM

I've read in a couple different places that there aren't any deleted scenes for First Contact. I know there was a rumor of a Sisko/Worf scene on DS9 that was cut, but that's all it ever amounted to: a rumor. Is there any confirmation Frakes had to delete anything from the final cut of the movie? The internet and message boards are great for this kind of thing, but everyone's always saying "I heard this" or "I saw a pic of that". At any rate, I can finally get rid of my single disc edition and upgrade. Definately looking forward to this.

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Posted March 05 2005 - 05:05 AM

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Posted March 05 2005 - 05:15 AM

Someone on another thread mentioned that Frakes wanted to have deleted scenes but I don't remember the details. Also in the original script, the Hawk character was supposed to be homosexual and there are scenes that established this that were filmed but ultimately cut (rumor) at Braga's insistence.

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Posted March 05 2005 - 05:40 AM

^ See, I think everyone's heard that at one time or another, but there's no hard evidence of that. Neal McDonaugh hasn't confirmed that; Frakes hasn't confirmed it. Why would Braga cut a storyline or character piece that he and Moore wrote? That doesn't make much sense. Hawk being gay was followed up in the novel "Rogue". At least with other cut scenes, there are photos, script pieces and whatnot to confirm something was supposed to be there. AFAIK, there's nothing for First Contact. While not a fantastic source, the IMDB doesn't list any alternate versions for the film, suggesting to me that everything that was written was filmed and used.

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Posted March 05 2005 - 06:31 AM

I thought the first release of this had reference quality picture and the DD was quite impressive. Is it the same transfer? How do they compare?
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Posted March 05 2005 - 07:16 AM

Uh, the same reasons ANY kind of scene in film are cut; because it either doesn't fit with the rest of the film and/or needs to be cut for time contraints.

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Posted March 05 2005 - 07:37 AM

There's only 2 reasons why I upgrade a dvd - deleted scenes/director's cut or improved picture quality. In this case, since there are no deleted scenes, I'd like to know if the picture quality is a step up from the current release or not, since that will be the deciding factor on whether I buy this or not.
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#12 of 147 OFFLINE   Scott Kimball

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Posted March 05 2005 - 07:42 AM

Unfortunately, I can't compare video quality with the original release, since I don't have access to it. However, the DTS track is definitely an improvement over the DD track included on the Collector's Edition - which is most likely the same DD track as on the original release.

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Posted March 05 2005 - 08:35 AM

I have access to it, I will post screenshots.

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Posted March 05 2005 - 09:02 AM

I will not say which one is which. You decide first which one is better. It's kind of a blind test!!

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Posted March 05 2005 - 09:02 AM

Are the menus scenes from the movie or computer generated? From what I have seen, they look exactly like the movie. Could you post more? I'm particulary interested in the Federation menu turning Borg. Thanks

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Posted March 05 2005 - 09:04 AM

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Posted March 05 2005 - 09:07 AM

For the first set, I'm going to say the second is the CE. One thing I don't like about the original DVD is how white or washed out everyone looked...very pale. The second shows a warm tint to Riker and Data's hair does not look as black. (notice the back of Riker's chair in each). I'll say the second one again for the second shot. The green light gives it away...it seems to flood everywhere in the first pic but it is confined to the area where the light emits in the second.

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Posted March 05 2005 - 09:18 AM

The second scene #1 seems to have more detail/EE. Both #2s look better to me.
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Posted March 05 2005 - 09:20 AM

Thanks for posting the screenshots, Sam. Clark - the menu backgrounds look computer generated to me, but then that scene was partially computer generated in the film as well. I will further scrutinize them. I'll also try to get a low framerate video capture posted of the menu animation. For bandwidth reasons, it'll be low rez and highly compressed, but it should let you see what you want. -Scott

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Posted March 05 2005 - 09:25 AM


Thank you, Thank you!!! I'm dying here. Mine was supposedly shipped on 3/04 but I'm still waiting. It's like Christmas. Posted Image

Can't wait to see the video of the menus.





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