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The Phantom of the Opera (2004) on DVD May 3


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#1 of 80 OFFLINE   Geoff S.

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Posted February 11 2005 - 01:55 PM

DVDAnswers.com reports:

"Warner has officially announced the recent Phantom of the Opera movie which stars the likes of Gerard Butler, Emmy Rossum, Miranda Richardson and Minnie Driver. This new Joel Schumacher directed film will arrive in single-disc form, from the 3rd May this year. The retail price will be set at around $27.95. The film itself will be presented in 2.40:1 anamorphic widescreen along with both English and French Dolby Digital 5.1 tracks. English, French and Spanish subtitles will also be provided. I'm afraid Warner has yet to reveal details on the extra material for this one, but we'll let you know just as soon as we hear anything."

Having loved this movie and been personally affected by it, I am both suprised and dissapointed by this lackluster single-disc effort. I suppose I can't expect much since this one did flop in theaters (having not made it's budget back from domestic ticket sales). But it made back nearly twice it's budget when you include overseas ticket sales.

It figures that following the lackluster DVD of Chicago that we'd be offered this.

On the positive side, this is my first post. I hope no one else posted this already. I tried to make sure by doing a few searches
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#2 of 80 OFFLINE   MatthewLouwrens

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Posted February 11 2005 - 02:17 PM

Welcome to the HTF, Geoff.
And thanks for the update. I too enjoyed the film, despite having a few problems with it, and will pick it up.
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#3 of 80 OFFLINE   Ernest Rister

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Posted February 11 2005 - 04:37 PM

Chicago is destined for the old double-dip, and so is this.

#4 of 80 OFFLINE   Inspector Hammer!

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Posted February 11 2005 - 07:35 PM

Welcome Geoff! Posted Image

I missed this in theaters but really wanted to see it as I love these types of musicals, Moulin Rouge is one of my favorite films, so i'm all over this when it's out.

In fact, i've never looked forward to seeing a Joel Shumacher film as much as I am this one.

I also LOVE Emmy Rossum. Posted Image
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#5 of 80 OFFLINE   MatthewLouwrens

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Posted February 11 2005 - 11:04 PM

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Chicago is destined for the old double-dip, and so is this.
I think we all thought Chicago would be a double-dip title, but it's been several years now and as far as I am aware there has been no actual hint of it so far.
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#6 of 80 OFFLINE   AlanP

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Posted February 12 2005 - 01:30 AM

I CAN'T WAIT !!!!!!!
I LOVED THIS FILM !!!!!!!!!!!!
THE SETS, THE COSTUMES, EVERYTHING !!!!!!!!!!
IT IS ASHAME THAT IS WAS NOT A HIT !!!!!!!
I HOPE THIS DOES NOT DOOM OTHER MUSICALS !!!!!!!!!!!!


#7 of 80 OFFLINE   MikeDE

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Posted February 12 2005 - 03:02 AM

I am so glad you posted this. The theaters in my small town are undergoing renovation and there only a few screens open, so films like this come in one week and fly out the next. I wasn't able to catch it, and was hoping the disc would come out sooner than later. Never being able to see a stage production, I am really looking forward to getting the DVD.

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Posted February 12 2005 - 09:10 AM

This film cost between seventy and eighty million dollars. Add to that prints and advertising. This film is so far from making its budget back it's not even funny. It has to earn two and a half times its production costs to break even. Worldwide, I don't think it's reached seventy or eighty yet. When it earns two hundred million (the 12th of Never) then you can say it's earned back its production costs.

I'm looking forward to finally seeing it.

#9 of 80 OFFLINE   Adam_WM

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Posted February 12 2005 - 03:08 PM

The funny thing is... consider how well the show has done oevr the years. I just think it's a case of people not going to the movies to see this. I figured everyone who saw this on stage would want to see the movie. Is it the opposite? Have the masses figured, "I saw it on stage already"? I really enjoyed it, a very good adaptation, but I'm not surprised by the single disc version. I just hope that Phantom's "non-success" doesn't put the death knell on future musicals.
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#10 of 80 OFFLINE   Porter Faulkner

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Posted February 12 2005 - 08:56 PM

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This film cost between seventy and eighty million dollars

When we were making this film the budget figure always quoted was £80 million.A major part of that from Lloyd Webber's own company. Thats about 150 million dollars plus prints and advertising. Good luck trying to recoup that any day soon.

Even if everyone who had seen it on stage turned up to see the film it would not be enough money at $8 a ticket to recoup that sort of expenditure. Thats why the film was aimed at a younger audience and cast with more youthful lead players than the stage versions. That audience were not interested and the film disappeared very quickly from theatres to be replaced with more lucrative holiday fare.

For the real reason this film failed so spectacularly at the box office you need look no further than the ever present and heavy hand of Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber, who was responsible for most of the bad decisions..... like director and casting. It was also not helped by having some of the most damning reviews ever at its opening in the UK and US.

#11 of 80 OFFLINE   Geoff S.

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Posted February 13 2005 - 02:31 AM

boxofficemojo.com reports a production budget of $70 million (ad costs are N/A there though) and lists it's total take in at $113,674,692.

Always good to have concrete numbers to discuss I think. I probobly should have posted them earlier.Posted Image

And as much as I don't care for Joel Schumacher, I thought his direction was more than satisfactory given his very 'big' style. That's what the film needed IMHO. I also loved this cast considering I have never been very fond of the singing talents of Brightman/Crawford.
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#12 of 80 OFFLINE   Larry Sutliff

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Posted February 13 2005 - 02:57 AM

This was my favorite film of 2004, so this is a "day and dater". I'm sure I'll be purchasing it again, hopefully in a HD format.

#13 of 80 OFFLINE   Jimmy M

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Posted February 13 2005 - 04:53 AM

I got an e-mail from WHV which said that there is the single disc version ($27.95) as well as a 2 disc version ($29.95)coming on the same date. There's not much listed for special features yet, but it does say that the

"2-disc special edition features:
• 2 documentaries about the story's & the musical's legacy
• 3 more making-of featurettes
• DVD_ROM weblink to Phantom's online world "


Hopefully there's more announcements as to the special features which just haven't been made yet.

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#14 of 80 OFFLINE   Kelly Grannell

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Posted February 13 2005 - 05:53 AM

I'm sorry, from a musical-theatre view point, this musical is mediocre. Thematic melodic lines should never be re-introduced in such a blatant way throughout the play.

I haven't seen the movie, I hope it's not as bad as the musical.

#15 of 80 OFFLINE   Jo_C

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Posted February 13 2005 - 07:41 AM

The video release date wasn't so surprising, seeing that this film was indeed a flop. I'm sure a lot of critics found this to be unappealing, if not giving "Phantom" mixed reviews.

I was all ready to see this film, hoping this would be a true Oscar hopeful, but alas, judging by the poor performance at both the box office and in the awards aura, it was to my credit I didn't see it.

I believe this was an attempt by WB to rejuvenate the musical as Miramax did for "Chicago". The attempt failed. Everyone wanted to see "Meet The Fockers".

Another strike-out for Webber.

#16 of 80 OFFLINE   Inspector Hammer!

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Posted February 13 2005 - 07:49 AM

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#17 of 80 OFFLINE   Jordan_E

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Posted February 13 2005 - 08:20 AM

And the thing is, Phantom didn't go "wide" until January; those of us near those "select cities" may have seen it disappear quick (although not here, it's still playing the same number of theaters since December), but it hasn't even been out over a month nation wide.
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#18 of 80 OFFLINE   Michael Reuben

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Posted February 13 2005 - 08:57 AM

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the general movie-going public really has no concept of what passion and pure movie magic is anymore
Because they stayed away from Phantom? Choose a better example.

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but now all they pay to see is Vin Diesal fighting CGI monsters
If you'll recall, that film bombed worse than Phantom.

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In the 40's and 50's people would have ate this film up with a spoon
In the 40s and 50s, people would have covered their ears and run from the theater screaming. They wouldn't have known what to do with a "rock" musical.

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but i'll never forget how I felt after watching Moulin Rouge and Chicago, we need more of those
Have you actually seen Phantom? Whatever one may think of MR and Chicago, those were undeniably conceived as works of cinema. Phantom was not. For long stretches, it could have been a filmed stage production. That was my criticism when I reviewed the film in December, and it still is.

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#19 of 80 OFFLINE   Inspector Hammer!

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Posted February 13 2005 - 09:03 AM

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#20 of 80 OFFLINE   Michael Reuben

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Posted February 13 2005 - 11:36 AM

So I'm guessing that the answer to my question of whether you've seen Phantom is a "no"?

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