Rolando
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First of all I will not even try to pretend I know what I am talking about when it comes to DLP, LCD or LCOS (I think)RPTVs.
As a few here know I have been wanting to get a new TV for over 6 months now. the first debate was 51" CRT RPTV or 34" direct view CRT.
non CRT was never even a thought. I had seen a few years ago (as well as plasma) and to this day have heard about how they just don't compare to even RPTV CRT.
If you can get right lighting condition CRT will always look better. SO I heard and so I have believed.
Well decided on Tosh 34HFX84 but as covered in another thread, it is discontinued. Only other 34" whose picture I trusted was the Sony 34XS955 but I can't justify the $800 price difference (here in Canada). I already had a long debate about going 34" when for the same price I could get a 51" RPTV. Of course PQ would be different but still not HUGE difference in right lighting conditions.
So here I am back to square one looking for a TV all over again and decided maybe I am missing something. A lot of people here at the forum seem to have accepted these units do I figured maybe over the years they have improved and I might be sticking to my guns for nothing.
After all the thought of a 44" unit that will look just as good in daylight was tempting. If I were alone I would definitely go for CRT RPTV but the wife will still watch some regular OTA TV during the day and I know she won't be very impressed with the picture. If we will drop $2K I don't want her to feel it's a downgrade in PQ just for size.
So to make a long story short (ok, I know, too late) I decided to give other RPTVs a shot. Well I went to Audio centre, a place that pride's itself at not being Future Shop or Centre Hi-Fi (Canadian equivalent of Circuit City, Best Buy and the like) and they know stuff and their TV look nice in properly lit rooms.
Well I sat in front of a 52" Toshiba DLP which he told me fit my description of what I was looking for (not bright, just well calibrated film like picture) and I would fall in love. I was disappointed instantaneously. My first clue should have been when I asked if it was an HD feed on it and he said "Yes, see how gorgeous and life like it looks?". It did not. it was a football game and it looked horrible. Was his statement supposed to make me go wow yes!
I decided to give it one more shot. asked him to put on a DVD (which is what I will mostly do) and put TV on "movie mode" rather than sport or anything else.
Well not even 5 minutes into X-Men 2 I could not take it anymore. It looked like I was watching an avi or mpeg on my PC zoomed in. Yes I am exagerating but how can you not notice the artifacts? the "clouds", the pixelation etc. Do people just not notice? I found it so distracting.
The best part is that when I told him he says "well with a good DVD player it does the processing and it will look better". So I say ok do you guys sell Denon. he said no, we have Marantz which is better. So I ask what DVD player was he using now? "Marantz."
Is it me? Or are there units with impeccable processing without this "ghosting" effect? Is it calibration? Is it lighting? Is it DVD player?
Or do I just need CRT?
As a few here know I have been wanting to get a new TV for over 6 months now. the first debate was 51" CRT RPTV or 34" direct view CRT.
non CRT was never even a thought. I had seen a few years ago (as well as plasma) and to this day have heard about how they just don't compare to even RPTV CRT.
If you can get right lighting condition CRT will always look better. SO I heard and so I have believed.
Well decided on Tosh 34HFX84 but as covered in another thread, it is discontinued. Only other 34" whose picture I trusted was the Sony 34XS955 but I can't justify the $800 price difference (here in Canada). I already had a long debate about going 34" when for the same price I could get a 51" RPTV. Of course PQ would be different but still not HUGE difference in right lighting conditions.
So here I am back to square one looking for a TV all over again and decided maybe I am missing something. A lot of people here at the forum seem to have accepted these units do I figured maybe over the years they have improved and I might be sticking to my guns for nothing.
After all the thought of a 44" unit that will look just as good in daylight was tempting. If I were alone I would definitely go for CRT RPTV but the wife will still watch some regular OTA TV during the day and I know she won't be very impressed with the picture. If we will drop $2K I don't want her to feel it's a downgrade in PQ just for size.
So to make a long story short (ok, I know, too late) I decided to give other RPTVs a shot. Well I went to Audio centre, a place that pride's itself at not being Future Shop or Centre Hi-Fi (Canadian equivalent of Circuit City, Best Buy and the like) and they know stuff and their TV look nice in properly lit rooms.
Well I sat in front of a 52" Toshiba DLP which he told me fit my description of what I was looking for (not bright, just well calibrated film like picture) and I would fall in love. I was disappointed instantaneously. My first clue should have been when I asked if it was an HD feed on it and he said "Yes, see how gorgeous and life like it looks?". It did not. it was a football game and it looked horrible. Was his statement supposed to make me go wow yes!
I decided to give it one more shot. asked him to put on a DVD (which is what I will mostly do) and put TV on "movie mode" rather than sport or anything else.
Well not even 5 minutes into X-Men 2 I could not take it anymore. It looked like I was watching an avi or mpeg on my PC zoomed in. Yes I am exagerating but how can you not notice the artifacts? the "clouds", the pixelation etc. Do people just not notice? I found it so distracting.
The best part is that when I told him he says "well with a good DVD player it does the processing and it will look better". So I say ok do you guys sell Denon. he said no, we have Marantz which is better. So I ask what DVD player was he using now? "Marantz."
Is it me? Or are there units with impeccable processing without this "ghosting" effect? Is it calibration? Is it lighting? Is it DVD player?
Or do I just need CRT?