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#1 of 17 OFFLINE   DanielKellmii

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Posted January 26 2005 - 02:10 PM

I know the Superbowl is being broadcast over the air in HDTV, but is anything special being done with the sound? Is it in 5.1? That would be neat if they could pull that off in a live broadcast.

#2 of 17 OFFLINE   Mike Slade

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Posted January 26 2005 - 04:42 PM

There are HD broadcasts that are 5.1. The CBS games are 5.1 and I believe the FOX ones are as well. I'm not sure about that because my local FOX is not HD yet but I think while watching the game last week I noticed it had a 5.1 logo at some point.

#3 of 17 OFFLINE   Harminder

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Posted January 26 2005 - 04:49 PM

Yes, FOX does broadcast in 5.1 for every HD broadcast they have. Posted Image

#4 of 17 OFFLINE   Joseph S

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Posted January 26 2005 - 04:59 PM

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Yes, FOX does broadcast in 5.1 for every HD broadcast they have.

They broadcast in 5.1, but the video is not really HD reference. It largely looks like vasoline is on the lenses and they use many SD cameras.

#5 of 17 OFFLINE   DanielKellmii

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Posted January 26 2005 - 10:37 PM

Maybe they will bring out the good cameras for the Superbowl. My Mitsu converts to 1080i. I'll see how that goes.

#6 of 17 OFFLINE   Eric_Connelly

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Posted January 26 2005 - 11:00 PM

Well I decided to email Fox and see what they say:

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Does Fox plan on improving the picture quality of their HD Superbowl Broadcast?

Fox advertises that their HD is the best around, especially for NFL broadcasts however the picture quality tells an entirely different story.

The picture is soft and there looks to be a mix of standard definition camera's in use. Close up shots are of decent clarity but none of Fox's NFL Broadcasts are even close in picture quality to CBS's NFL Broadcasts. CBS's NFL Broadcasts are far more vibrant and have better color clarity, not to mention overall picture clarity. On CBS Wide angle shots you can pic out minute details, on Fox its all a blur in the background.

Does Fox plan to improve the quality of camera's or increase the bitrate for their Superbowl show?

This is not a local broadcast issue either, our local Fox station in Detroit broadcasts in HD at a decent bitrate.

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#7 of 17 OFFLINE   Bryan_O

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Posted January 27 2005 - 08:33 AM

Agreed Fox doesn't have the best picture quality HD football when compared to CBS & ESPN, but they do have the best 5.1 mix of any rest. They really give you the in the stadium feel. Last weeks NFC Championship game you could hear plenty of the Philly fans going nuts.

#8 of 17 OFFLINE   DanielKellmii

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Posted January 27 2005 - 11:39 AM

Well, I guess I have a new weekend project.

Maybe FOX will see the light and convert to 1080i like everybody else.

#9 of 17 OFFLINE   Patrick Sun

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Posted January 27 2005 - 01:25 PM

Fox does 720p HDTV.
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#10 of 17 OFFLINE   DanielKellmii

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Posted January 27 2005 - 10:33 PM

Pat, I realize that. But the other major networks are 1080i. It would be nice if the market could decide on one standard of HDTV broadcast so we don't have to pay for two formats.

#11 of 17 OFFLINE   Patrick Sun

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Posted January 28 2005 - 12:21 AM

ABC and ESPN (owned by ABC) are also 720p.
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#12 of 17 OFFLINE   Frank Kanyak

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Posted January 28 2005 - 03:43 AM

When are locals go full HDTV---CBS, NBC, PBS, will be (1080i), ABC(ESPN), FOX, are (720p). My projector scales both formats very well...
Our FOX is broadcasting low power HDTV until spring time when they go full throttle. I do agree that the picture is not as good as CBS or ABC football games. Remember that they are still in the infancy stage, it takes awhile to get used to the equipment.
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#13 of 17 OFFLINE   Aaron Silverman

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Posted January 28 2005 - 10:24 AM

I wonder whether the 720p image simply doesn't look as good because it's being converted by most sets (like my Mitsu).
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#14 of 17 OFFLINE   Rakesh.S

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Posted January 28 2005 - 11:34 AM

HD commercials will look better than the game

#15 of 17 OFFLINE   Doug Miller

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Posted January 28 2005 - 11:44 AM

Aaron --

No, my Sony does 720P, it's their cameras. Football comes out looking soft. Up until the World Series, picture quality wasn't close to ESPN. World Series looked awesome. I think they have their "good" cameras that they break out for the big events.... Ha-Ha. Here we are, bitching because Fox HD doesn't look "good enough", while it still rules over 480i. Fox, dirty sons of bitches. Posted Image

Before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, I just said that Fox's HD didn't look as good either, I'm bitching too, it's not just you. Posted Image

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#16 of 17 OFFLINE   Joseph S

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Posted January 28 2005 - 03:21 PM

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Up until the World Series, picture quality wasn't close to ESPN. World Series looked awesome.

I still have the evidence to prove you wrong. Posted Image It looked like garbage. The ALCS looks even worse. It "features" herringbone patterns, a behind home plate cam that is SD, and a dirt cam of web cam definition. In addition to the poor quality, they had advertisements for My Big Fat Obnoxious Boss and Co. obliterating body parts of the players. If you want to see "awesome" picture quality, watch the games on INHD/ComcastHD during the baseball year.

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Posted January 29 2005 - 07:01 AM

Joseph --

I thought it looked awesome compared to their football broadcasts. In terms of the best baseball HD, I would agree that INHD's coverage is the best, clearest, and brightest. Follow it up with ESPN, then Fox. I love the INHD sports, I've even caught myself watching an ocassional basketball game.

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