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Are there any 37" 16:9 CRT direct view sets?


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#1 of 40 OFFLINE   Kevin C Brown

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Posted January 15 2005 - 07:04 PM

I just looked at the Sony, Panasonic, and Toshiba web sites, and they all have 34" but not 37".

Any one know?
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#2 of 40 OFFLINE   Jack Briggs

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Posted January 16 2005 - 03:47 AM

At this writing in January, 2005, there are 34-inch, 16:9 CRT-based direct-view sets and a single 38-inch, 16:9 CRT-based direct-view set (from Loewe, the Aconda). However, the 40-inch Sony, which is 4:3 native, reduces to a 37-inch window in its 16:9 mode, and so there you go.

If, however, you are interested in LCD-based sets, you have quite a few more size options.

#3 of 40 OFFLINE   Kevin C Brown

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Posted January 16 2005 - 10:30 AM

Yes, I know there are quite a few LCDs, and even at least 1 37" plasma. (I just really liked the 480p "squeeze" mode on my 32" CRT Toshiba.)

A friend has the 40" Sony, and it's just too big (and heavy!) for what I want. I will have to check out that Loewe... Thanks. Posted Image
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#4 of 40 OFFLINE   matt-f

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Posted January 16 2005 - 04:48 PM

I think in Japan, there is 34" and larger widescreen CRT tubes being sold.

#5 of 40 OFFLINE   Kevin C Brown

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Posted January 16 2005 - 06:06 PM

I did check out the Loewe: no HDMI or DVI inputs. And, it is also a comparatively big set: 220 lbs.

My unfortunate impression is that manufacturers would rather sell flat panels of that size due to their profit margins, *and* that U.S. consumers have successfully been sold on the idea that since plasma and LCD are *newer*, that they *must* be better, which they aren't.
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#6 of 40 OFFLINE   Andre D

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Posted January 17 2005 - 03:25 AM

I am having the same problem. I may just end up getting the Sony 34xbr960. What do you have in mind at this point, Kevin?

#7 of 40 OFFLINE   Kevin C Brown

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Posted January 17 2005 - 12:26 PM

Andre- Hee, hee. I just did a spreadsheet that calculates all the dimensions for 4:3 27", 32", and 36" sets, and 16:9 30", 34", 37", and 42" sets.

I am *trying* to convince myself that a 34" 16:9 is big enough. (I sit about 8 ft from the display.) The 4:3 area within that set is 27.8" diagonal, and I did live with a 27" 4:3 set for years.

I don't know. I came across an ad this weekend for a Sony 34" 16:9 CRT. Don't know what model (34 something 510 maybe.) Original list was $2k, price was $1k. If I come across a deal like that again, I might not be able to resist.

I have a 32" 4:3 CRT HDTV Toshiba now. I've had it for 18 months, and I just started using the feature where it squeezes the 480p lines down to the aspect ratio of the DVD. (In other words, no lines are lost to the black bars on top or below.) I just freaking love the picture. That's what got me started looking at CRT direct view sets again...
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Posted January 17 2005 - 12:45 PM

Kevin,

Is 34" from 8 feet big enough?

Hhhmmm, I just replaced a 56" widescreen Toshiba HDTV (sitting 9 feet away) with an Epson Cinema 500 LCD projector shining on a 96" Carada 16:9 screen (sitting 11 feet away).....the four NFL playoff games this past weekend were a joy to watch in 720p Posted Image

And my 2 channel soundstage has never been better!

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Posted January 17 2005 - 12:52 PM

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I have a 32" 4:3 CRT HDTV Toshiba now. I've had it for 18 months, and I just started using the feature where it squeezes the 480p lines down to the aspect ratio of the DVD. (In other words, no lines are lost to the black bars on top or below.) I just freaking love the picture. That's what got me started looking at CRT direct view sets again...


Wow, same here! Mine is a Sony 36xbr250 that also does the anomorphic squeeze. I recently saw someone selling a 40xbr800 and matching stand locally for $1300 on ebay (buy it now price). By the time I got home and convinced myself to buy it, someone beat me to the punch. I wanted to kick myself. So far I have seen nothing but rave reviews on the 34xbr960, so I may just end up with that. Yeah, I agree that CRT's still rule.

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Posted January 17 2005 - 12:55 PM

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Hhhmmm, I just replaced a 56" widescreen Toshiba HDTV (sitting 9 feet away) with an Epson Cinema 500 LCD projector shining on a 96" Carada 16:9 screen (sitting 11 feet away).....the four NFL playoff games this past weekend were a joy to watch in 720p


56" sitting 9 feet away? How is the picture sitting that close. I actually thought about this, but didn't want to be so close that I couldn't appreciate the picture.

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Posted January 17 2005 - 01:14 PM

I'm actually thinking about a 36" 4:3 as a short term solution, until flat panel blacks and contrast get better.

Too much time on my hands... Posted Image

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Posted January 17 2005 - 01:50 PM

Andre,

With the older 480i max analog RPTV's, you might see lines at 9' for a 56" set. However, when you're sending dvd/directv/cable signals that are 720p/1080i/480p, 9' is just about right.

And at 11' & a 720p projector, some would say that a 96" screen is too small!

There are certainly some smoking under $2k deals right now for 47-57" CRT RPTV that are "slim-looking".


Kevin,

32" 4:3 to 36" 4:3 IMO is not worth the trouble.

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Posted January 17 2005 - 05:38 PM

Rickey- Andre has me thinking about a 34" 16:9 CRT again Posted Image ...
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#14 of 40 OFFLINE   Ricky T

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Posted January 18 2005 - 02:22 AM

Kevin,

32" 4:3 to 36" 16:9? A TV doesn't hold value like used amps Posted Image I would save your money until the larger sets work out for you.

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Posted January 18 2005 - 08:25 AM

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I did check out the Loewe: no HDMI or DVI inputs. And, it is also a comparatively big set: 220 lbs.
yep, you won't find a tube tv lightweight at that size,simply because of the thick glass of the tube.

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Posted January 18 2005 - 10:17 AM

Ricky, you have to admit, CRT's deliver excellent pictures. Give me a tube over a plasma anytime. I must admit, however that projection tv's give more of that 'theater' presence.

#17 of 40 OFFLINE   Jack Briggs

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Posted January 19 2005 - 04:09 AM

Yes, CRTs still rule. Though DLP and LCoS (and its variants) are catching up, CRTs still are the state of the art.

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Posted January 19 2005 - 10:36 AM

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Yes, CRTs still rule. Though DLP and LCoS (and its variants) are catching up, CRTs still are the state of the art.


Jack, what would you recommend between a projection (including size) and a CRT for someone who has an 8 foot viewing distance? Like I said, I'm leaning more towards the CRT because of the awesome picture quality. However, I also love projections just because of the screen size, but I don't want to sit too close to the point where it will affect my viewing.

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Posted January 19 2005 - 12:35 PM

That's why I also lean towards CRT: I also have about an 8 ft viewing distance.
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#20 of 40 OFFLINE   Lewis Besze

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Posted January 19 2005 - 02:35 PM

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Yes, CRTs still rule. Though DLP and LCoS (and its variants) are catching up, CRTs still are the state of the art.
Not if it's rear projection, I've yet to see an RP CRT that had uniform light output or matches the picture detail of DLPs,however the blackest blacks are still better on CRT RP tvs but not for long.And then there is bulk...


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