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ReturnoftheKing

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Studio:New Line Year:2003RunTime:250 minutes (that's 4 hours, 10 minutes long)Aspect Ratio:16x9 encoded 2.35:1 OAR Audio:5.1 DD EX, 6.1 DTS ES, 2.0 DD (all English) Subtitles:English, SpanishSpecialFeatures:A veritable cornecopia of bonus material in this 4-DVD set...ReleaseDate:December 14, 2004




Part I.


There was a mix-up in the mailroom at my building (grrr) and I only received this DVD Monday evening like many of you on-line shoppers...so in an effort to get this review out quickly I'm breaking it up into two sections. Part one will be my review of the film and A/V quality and part two (coming later) will be my review of the special feature content...



Feature...

Magnificent.

No effort to bring Tolkien's epic Lord of the Rings tale to film could possibly please everyone. A purely faithful on-screen account would be impossibly long to produce, and be too arduous for all but the most dedicated of fans to enjoy. A contemporary "Hollywood" action film interpretation, with requisite formulaic characterization and spiritually void storytelling, would have made sure hit at the box-office and pay-per-view while bastardizing Tolkien's vision and offending followers of the books. For years most fans considered their dream to see this story brought to the screen to be a technical and marketing impossibility. Peter Jackson has proved them wrong. And while his presentation of The Lord of The Rings may not be perfect, the "impossible" goal to bring Tolkein's fantasy to life has been achieved.

Jackson has produced the film epic for our generation that defines a new film-genre. Much like the Star Wars films from the late 1970's, Jackson's vision cannot be funneled through any existing category of film and judged accordingly. It establishes something new, and sets forth its own rules, language, and in essence, defines a new genre altogether. Jackson's trilogy moves boldly, yet is finely-feathered in subtle meaning and detail which adds depth to his presentation and soul to his characters. Jackson's The Lord of The Rings trilogy is a film saturated with a virtue seldom associated with big-budget/special-effect-laden films today: integrity.

It's got some faults. For one, I think that the comic-relief use of Gimli is a bit overdone and weakens some dramatic moments of the movie (This is Middle Earth, let's leave the tension alone and not feel the need to lighten-the-mood during battle scenes with Dwarf humor shall we?). There are also times when Jackson seems to make alterations to Tolkien's story that neither improve the movie's flow, story's impact, or seem to make practical sense. Some of the digital special effects look...well...digital. And despite the inordinate length of the films, the viewer sometimes feels a little hurried along as Jackson doesn't seem generous with letting the camera hang on a scene long enough to let the onlooker "take his fill".

It's also got some outstanding strengths. Characters look and feel authentic. Acting is superlative. And the whole ensemble-- screen play, acting, costumes, sets, effects, music and imagery all work together to create a moving painting...a work of art...which embodies this story a manner so integral, so expressive, that no clear division can be drawn between the visual, sound, and story elements. And while you heard me mention that some of the digital special effects betray their binary origin, let me also state that Jackson does a very effective job at minimizing the discrepancy between real and simulated visuals by casting the whole image into a stylized glaze that alters hue, obscures impressions, and imparts an other-worldly, mythical atmosphere to the look of the film.

The Return of The King is arguably the most powerful of the three The Lord of The Rings installments. On the surface, all of the conflicts and wandering storylines tie together amidst the tumult of epic battles manifesting the ultimate struggle between good and evil. But what makes this film so moving, so beautiful, is the depth-of-character that it conveys. The struggle isn't merely "war", and it isn't merely religious; it's a battle fought in the very hearts and souls of men and women within themselves, struggling to keep faith, do right, and stay true to the noble duties set before them; the struggle is spiritual. The resolution and love between these friends is truly beautiful, and the actors lose their own identity and become these characters for us in this final film and we feel their emotions, groan with their struggles, revel in their joy, and vicariously partake of the bonds of fellowship that they share. I often cry in movies, but I don't think I've ever cried such bitter-sweet tears for so sustained a time as I cry at the end of this film; from the moment when Frodo awakens from his rescue by the Eagle's talons, the tears start. And they don't stop until after the credits have rolled.



Presentation & Packaging...


Extended Edition (spoilers so beware): With over 50 minutes of footage incorporated ("added" is not the proper descriptor) into the former theatrical cut, The Return of The King Extended Edition emerges on DVD as a very changed film. Like the Extended Editions of its two predecessors, the new footage integrates seamlessly in look and feel of the original and the depth of characterization is much improved over the theatrical cuts. Many scenes beloved by fans of Tolkien's story that were bemoaned to be missing in the theatrical cut (Saruman's demise, Houses of Healing) are restored here to the satisfaction of most. Other reviews have explicated the details of every added or altered scene and, not being the expert of Tolkien's work, I do not wish to go into such detail here. Having seen this film exactly once during its theatrical run, I can tell you that my impressions of the extended cut is that it is a much more effective film on counts of story and characterization though it flows a bit more slowly, and undoubtedly some will experience this as a more clumsy or wandering storyline and perhaps look on this extended cut with disfavor because if it.

But let me restate my assessment early on that Jackson's effort "establishes something new, and sets forth its own rules, language, and in essence, defines a new genre." I'll put forth that we're conditioned by movie norms to expect a certain flow, a kind of pacing, and if something gets in the way of that the reaction is to call it an "obstacle" and question its merit. But where do these rules come by which we "read" the art of film? Would you judge a musical with the same rules by which you judge a suspense film? Would you try to interpret a science-fiction film with the same vocabulary you use to understand a romance-comedy? While this convention might apply easily to most "ordinary" films, I'd suggest that you set aside your rule-book for "how to experience movies" for The Return of The King and let it take you on its own journey and reveal to you its own language, it's own vocabulary, it's own way of being understood and experienced. The journey this film conveys is one of diligence, struggle to resist discouragement despite the repeated agony of staying true to one's mission, and its a painful and difficult task. This extended cut of The Return of The King expresses this struggle much more clearly...the trail of Frodo and Sam to the tower feels much longer, more difficult, and more weary than before. Battles feel longer and more painful. Political interests feel more threatening and relationships of friendship and love more precious (Aragorn and the Palantir). I think that if you let-go and allow yourself to experience the extended cut of The Return of The King you'll find it to be a more powerful and affecting story which in many ways is served by the slower, more gradual film-pacing and complex story development.

There were a few scenes I found distracting (felt a few moments could have been trimmed from the Dead Armies-negotiation scene) but I don't find that they hurt the film in any real way though some may find discomfort with the manner in which they alter a few impressions with which they've grown Familiar. I'm glad I saw the theatrical cut to have both experiences to remember, but now having watched the Extended Edition of The Return of The King it will be my default choice when I want to enjoy the fullest experience of this magnificent film or introduce it to others.

Packaging: The Extended Edition of The Return of The King comes to you in the same fashion as the extended cuts of the first two films: There is a lovely cardboard outer-sleeve with a spine designed to look like an aged leather-bound book that houses a fold-out cardboard holder that houses the four discs with a sleeve holding a booklet. The booklet is minimal but very effective and does just what it should: it provides a clear scene-listing for the feature film (with clear denoting of which scenes are added or extended from the theatrical presentation) and reveals a "map" of bonus material to make navigation a simple task. The feature movie is spread across two dual-layer DVDs to ease compression, with two DVDs dedicated to nothing but bonus material. Layer changes were swift and I hardly noticed them passing, and the disk-change break is not disruptive and reasonably placed.

For those of you who have purchased each extended cut individually and now feel a sense of loss as you see all three extended cuts bundled in a handsome slip-case on the store shelves...never fear. If you go to www.lotrdvdbox.com you can order an empty slip-case to house your set for only a $3.00 shipping fee (pay via credit card on the site and no proof-of-purchase or receipt is required), providing you with everything you would have obtained had you purchased the "bundle" in its shrink-wrapped form. Who could ask for more...




Picture...

Not having purchased the theatrical cut of The Return of The King on DVD, I'll be comparing the quality of this disc to the DVDs of the extended cuts of the previous two films...which I think makes the most sense anyway as most fans will view their key "Trilogy" to be a collection of these three extended cuts. I hope this meets with your satisfaction. And let me clarify for any first-time readers of my reviews that I view my DVDs on a calibrated BenQ 8700+ projector being fed via DVI a 1280 x 720P image (the native resolution of my projector) from my Momitsu DVD player (scales DVDs to HD resolution at either 720P or 1080I for high-resolution displays). My viewing distance is approximately 1.6 screen-widths back from my 106" diagonal 16x9 screen (Dalite HiPower). This is one of the finest-looking images available for under $5K and it reveals an astonishing level of detail from the DVD medium...exposing artifacts when present but also rendering an astonishingly film-like image from well-mastered DVD material. If you'd like to read more about my "reviewing philosophy" please see my Mary Poppins review.

So what's it look like?

Drum-roll please.

This Extended Edition of The Return of The King is the finest-looking DVD from the "extended" trilogy. The extended cut of the first Fellowship improved upon the theatrical DVD version, then the extended cut of the second film improved upon the extended cut of the first, and now this latest disc has continued New Line's improvement-trend.

Of the two previous Extended Editions, The Return of The King Extended Edition looks most like Two Towers, but with some subtle, but impactful improvements. Detail, much like the Two Towers, is impressive, and seems to be slightly improved. Images that were filmed soft-focus still maintain their character, but detail-loaded shots explode with clarity and subtle image definition. Don't sell out too quickly...there's still room for improvement and any future high-definition medium will blow these DVDs away. But as it stands The Return of The King Extended Edition puts out a rich and satisfying image that will make most videophiles sigh. Wide-angle viewers (those viewing less than two screen-widths away) will be impressed with the film-like quality of the image. The The Return of The King paints an astonishing natural looking image...natural in the sense that the DVD is imparting very little "signature" into the picture so the film-source material shines through with ease.

The image is surprisingly 3-dimensional, and in this regard it starts to look decidedly superior to its Two Towers predecessor. My suspicion is that the improved sense of image depth is a result of another improvement I couldn't help but notice...the increased contrast and richer, more solid black-level. In terms of black-level and contrast, the image reminds me of the recent (excellent) Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back DVDs from Fox. Blacks are inky and stable with no hint of digital/compression noise. I did notice some noise in some dark scenes but it was film-grain related and not a cause for concern. The dynamic range of the image...from dark to light...seems more intense than Two Towers and the image "comes alive" in a more powerful way. Grayscale and shadow detail are superb and all the dim and somber tones and muted colors are expressed with excellence.

Let me state right now that if I read another review of the one of these The Lord of The Rings movies that talks about the "natural flesh-tones" I'm going to throw-up. That is a clear sign-that the reviewer has a miscalibrated monitor, doesn't know how to judge color, or both. The flesh-tones, and all colors for that matter, on all three The Lord of The Rings movies have been intentionally and artfully altered to portray a world that feels surreal and mythical. Flesh tones therefore tend to look very unnatural which is exactly as they should. Tones are muted, often tend to orange and green, like an old faded manuscript or painting. Color is also used to evoke a context or sense of "place" in the story just like the musical score. See how color shifts take place to depict image from Rivendell, and how different colors look there in comparison to the Shire (where they appear most life-like), Rohan, or Mordor. The effect is subtle which is also to its credit, Jackson doesn't want his color-shifting to draw attention to itself and become a source of distraction. But he's carefully governed just how color will be skewed in each scene to evoke an impression, a sensation, and combined with the other elements of the glorious cinematography, the effect is beautiful. More than any other The Lord of The Rings DVD come before, The Return of The King Extended Edition presents the marvelous subtlety of color-shifting, tinting, and hue of these films in faithful manner.

I saw one or two instances of color-banding (the opening scene where we meet Smeagol and companion as the image fades in from black) but I'm aware that the DVI connection that I use is most unforgiving of such artifacts and so I don't want to raise too much cause for alarm. Mosquito noise and other conventional MPEG compression artifacting is nill from any sane viewing distance and is likely a result of the generous bit-rate afforded the video portion of this disc spread over two RSDL DVD discs. Colors are intense when intended and somber otherwise, and the "look" of the tones corresponds perfectly to the color that I saw in the projected theatrical cut.

The image isn't perfect though, and just like the previous Two Towers Extended Edition there is the slightest touch of HF boosting/edge-enhancement in the vertical domain. This affects hard-edge transitions of horizontal lines...so the caps of mountain-ranges and rooftops often have a halo-ghost ringing that I find bothersome as I can occasionally see it even from my seating distance. And before folks tell me I'm watching too closely let me assure that I'm not...the viewing angle I'm seeing is what most folks get in the back 1/3 of their local cinema...hardly "too close" and well mastered DVDs look lovely projected and viewed from this width/distance ratio (DVDs don't have the resolution to get as close as you would in the first or middle row of a theater without suffering from visible digital artifacts and softness...which is why most current front-projection home-theaters utilize a 1.5-1.75 screen-width viewing distance). Still, don't be too alarmed...even though I can see the ringing it is minimal and not intrusive...and much to my surprise it doesn't seem to mar the image with an electronic signature like I see on so many Miramax DVDs. However, in comparison to "perfect" DVDs like the Empire Strikes Back that are both relatively unfiltered and completely free from any artificial electronic boosting like edge-enhancement, The Return of The King Extended Edition cannot score a perfect "5".

After disheartening many of you with my critique of the edge-enhancement, let me assure you that the overall look of this DVD is a beauty to behold. It's rare that a DVD comes across looking as natural (non-digital) in its presentation as this, and the velvety-film-like character of the image remains in tact despite the very minimal HF boost. Gorgeous to be sure, and this is one to show of the projector with pride when guests come over and want to know "what's all the fuss about with that home theater stuff". The Return of The King Extended Edition will teach'em right!




Picture Quality: 4.75 / 5

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Rating Rationale...

In the past I think I've been too ambiguous with my scoring or at least haven't applied it consistently from title to title, so I've endeavored to define my rating system more clearly to help make the scoring more meaningful (for all titles reviewed December 2004 and later):

Rating Key:

SCORE Description 1-2 An absolute abomination. Hurts to watch. Think "Outland" (scan-line aliasing, chroma noise, dotcrawl)-- truly horrid. 2-3 Has some serious problems, but one can at least watch it without getting a headache despite all the problems though you might try to talk your guests into picking a different movie to watch if you have a large projection screen. Think Cold Mountain. 3-4 Good or at least "acceptable" on a big-screen, but not winning any awards and definitely room for improvement if you view the image wide-angle (though smaller-screen viewers may be quite content). Think the first extended cut of Fellowship of the Ring...decent picture but still some HF filtering and some edge-halos. 4-5 A reference picture that really makes the most of the DVD medium and shows extraordinary transparency to the film-source elements. Non-videophile observers can't help but remark "WOW". Think The Empire Strikes Back or the Fifth Element Superbit (sans EE for a flat-out "5").





Sound...



Sound is such an important and integral part of this film (as in all installments in Jackson's The Lord of The Rings trilogy) and the disc producers have seen fit to provide the home-theater enthusiast with two discrete multi-channel mixes: A 5.1 Dolby Digital EX mix and a 6.1 DTS EX mix. Both of these can be played back effectively in a 6.1 fashion, but there is a key difference with the way in which the sixth center-rear channel is derived. In the Dolby Digital EX format, the center-rear channel is matrixed into the L/R rear channels and extracted by taking the sum of their in-phase information...the way Prologic decoders decode the information for your front-center channel from a 2.0 mix. This has some inherent compromises and limits the way sound can be "steered" across the rear three channels. However, it is a reasonable compromise given the 5.1 encoding format that Dolby Digital utilizes on our DVD medium. 6.1 DTS ES, improves on things slightly as explained by HTF member Jeremy Anderson:
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In-phase data in DTS-ES Discrete is also incapable of being reproduced in all three rear channels at once, just as it is in DD-EX. To maintain backwards compatibility with DTS 5.1 or 6.1 matrixed DTS-ES systems, the sounds from the sixth discrete channel are also matrixed into the left and right surrounds. During DTS-ES Discrete decoding, the sound from the sixth discrete channel is comparatively SUBTRACTED from the left and right surrounds during decoding. So if the decoder sees that the sound in the sixth discrete channel is also in both the left and right surround channels at equal levels, it subtracts it from those channels. That way, they can still steer the sound precisely between speakers by using varying levels of that sound in the left and right surrounds (which would then not be subtracted by the decoder and would blend with the sixth discrete channel so that the sound images between your rear speakers). Much like DD-EX, this is a compromise to maintain compatibility inside their given format. The biggest difference is that DTS-ES Discrete gives more precise control over the placement of sounds across the rear soundstage.






Sadly, though my decoder has 6.1 decoding...I have not yet acquired a center-rear speaker/amplifier so I'm currently forced to play back these mixes in 5.1. Keep in mind that both mixes are designed to play as traditional 5.1 mixes for legacy systems, and so there's no degradation to the sound in comparison to a native 5.1 soundtrack. However I just want to clarify that at the moment the center-rear decoding is one area of sound critiquing that I'm not equipped to do...hopefully this will change soon and if it changes soon enough (he he) I'll update this review accordingly.
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Normally when I review a disc containing both a DD and DTS mix I start by describing the general sound and then finish by an exposition of the subtle distinctions between the two mixes. Not in this case. On The Return of The King Extended Edition the two mixes sound very different to my ears...remarkably so. They sound so different that I'm tempted to wonder if they are sourced from two distinct mixes. The DTS mix still sounds better in the "DTS way" that I'm used to...more finely rendered resolution, decay, naturalness of timber especially on dialog, vocals, and instruments. However, that's not to say that in this case the DTS mix should be considered out-right better than the Dolby Digital mix. They are different enough in other ways that I could appreciate why some listeners may prefer the Dolby Digital presentation over the DTS.

Dolby Digital:

The 5.1 DD EX presentation is bold and robust. "Strong" and "aggressive" are two words that kept coming to mind. Bass is tight, defined, and powerful. Highs are airy and open, and I must say that this is one of the finest-sounding Dolby Digital mixes in terms of "fidelity" I've heard with special note to the naturalness of choral voices in the musical score and sense of "space" in the recording. The mix sound very "seamless" across the 5.1 speaker array (though had this same presentation been encoded with the DTS codec I'm curious what, if any, improvement might result).

The biggest difference you'll hear between the DD and DTS tracks is that the DD sounds recorded at a slightly higher-level overall, with a center-channel that is at a much higher level in relation to the rest of the mix versus what you'll hear on the DTS mix. I would have thought that the level difference was a result of some processing-flag like dialog normalization except that the effect is much more dramatic than what I'm used to hearing with other DD/DTS titles. Switching back and forth, one's first impression is that the DD mix sounds "clearer" as all elements coming from the center channel are articulated clearly, distinctly and cleanly. The dialog presentation sounds slightly "flatter" in comparison to the DTS mix, however, so the good/bad judgment is not so simple. The DD mix also sounds brighter than the DTS mix, but again I'm not going to suggest which result is right or wrong given that I cannot be sure what the source mix is nor what the source is supposed to sound like.

DTS:

The DTS mix sounds lush and sultry, and orchestral scores sound more finely rendered with an ease and aplomb that reminds me of "high end" audio. Sounds come across more rounded, without the sharper/flatter edge that some of the dialog has on the Dolby Digital mix. Choral voices sound eerily real, and brasses and woodwinds (listen to the tonal character and complex overtones in the horns during "The Lighting of the Beacons") are rendered with an improved sense of resolution and timberal realism.

However, the DTS mix also strikes me as sounding a bit "muddy" that for all of its virtues lacks the clarity and articulation of the Dolby Digital mix. The center-channel dialog is also recorded a bit lower...and users may find that they need to raise the level of their center channel a bit to achieve a comfortable balance of sound and easily-intelligible dialog. I'm not suggesting that the center-balance on the Dolby Digital mix is the "right" level and that the DTS is wrong...in fact, I found myself thinking that the center channel on the Dolby Digital mix sounded a tad bright and I wanted to turn it down slightly for comfortable listening. Bass is deep and well defined on the DTS mix, though my first impression is that it may lack some of the "punch" of the Dolby Digital. I'll need to spend more time with the two mixes to refine all these points and I'll update my review here when I do so, but I want to post my initial impressions here in order to get this review up in a somewhat timely manner given that the disc has already been made available.

Hmmm...

This is more a case of "This bowl of porridge is too hot" and "This bowl of porridge is too cold". Without knowing what the real mix is supposed to sound like, I'm uncomfortable judging either mix too harshly or too favorably... and prefer instead to try to give you an objective account of how they sound individually and in comparison to each other void of any mastering knowledge of their histories (also, because of the discrepancy between the two mixes I'm uncomfortable giving a full "5" rating to the sound). My best conclusion thus far is that both mixes sound very good, and objectively different from one another. Listeners may prefer one over the other given their own personal tastes and relative sonic signatures of their audio systems. For me personally, after increasing the center level a few notches, I found the DTS mix preferred because the more natural/rounder dialog and orchestral timbers is something that makes me more able to connect with the sound and be affected emotionally by the presentation. Other listeners may find the slightly bolder, more aggressive/articulate sound of the Dolby Digital to better serve their The Return of The King Extended Edition experience. Let's have some mature discussion about this in this thread if you have something to say...



Sound Quality: 4.75 / 5

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Part II. coming soon...
 

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So far so good Dave!:emoji_thumbsup: BTW not sure what the 1964 Year reference is to at the top...
 

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Just one mistake at the beginning.......there is no Pan and Scan version of this. Not even on VHS. So its OAR all the way:)
 

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Thanks for the very comprehensive and thoughtful review, David. Another excellent job. This is exactly the kind of information I want to read in a review. Detailed and well-articulated information, particularly about the audio and video quality, rather than the usual platitudes about "skin tones looking natural." Bravo.

Sadly, I haven't been able to watch my copy of the ROTK:EE yet. I sat down to watch disc 1 of the supplements last night with my wife, but we were unable to get past the introduction because the picture kept breaking up and eventually froze altogether. I pulled the disc out of the player and checked for scratches or marks. There were no visible signs of damage to the disc surface, but I did notice some strange variations in the clarity of the plastic near the center of the disc, right next to the hole in the middle. I'm guessing that the two layers are separating, and making the disc unreadable. I'm going to return it to Circuit City tonight and get another copy. Hopefully, I'll have better luck with the next copy.

Strangely, the same thing happened to me when I got the Two Towers Extended Edition, which I also bought at Circuit City. I returned TT:EE for a replacement, and the new set played just fine. Maybe there are a lot of defective discs out there. Anyone else having problems with playing their ROTK:EE?
 

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thanks for the comments guys. Oh...that 1964 thing...that's what I get for copying and pasting from my Mary Poppins review... :b

There's really no P/S version of this coming out? WOW!! That's great news... :D
 

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This extended cut has the same number of endings as the theatrical cut.....ONE.;)
 

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Guess you don't follow. I mean parts where the film should or could have ended. And ROTK had more than any other film I have ever seen.

I was just wondering if this EE actually draws the endings out even more.
 

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According to everything I've read, there are no extentions to the film after Frodo wakes up in Minas Tirith.

Except the fan club credits, of course.
 

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I love it! Can't wait to watch this. Actually, I am going to put this one off until the 27th of December. I will be off that day and a buddy and I are going to watch all 3 Extended Versions back to back.

It will be a glorious and sad day at the same time due to the fact that this is really the end of it all.

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I was worried about the end credits. I was worried they wouldnt add a sketch of Christopher Lee or Brad Dourif to them. But gladly they did. Was so happy to see them added to the credits proper:)
 

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FYI: there is mention of the "multiple endings" criticism in the extras on disc 3 - a humorous anecdote from Elijah Wood involving a run-in he had with Jack Nicholson, and an explanation from Peter jackson.

Nice review, David. I have to put the rest of this away and work on some reviews myself...
 

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Is there going to be a $5 rebate for owners of the RotK TE?

I noticed the street price on RotK EE was cheaper than previous EEs.
 

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David: just wanted to let you know that I posted a quick note over in HTF Feedback thanking you for your yeoman-like efforts over the past ten days.

Click HERE.

Awesome. Thank you.
 

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Great review David. I just finished Disc 1 myself and agree with your Audio part to a degree. I know you usually side with dts so your positive Dolby Digital comments mean even more to me.

I did some tweaking myself to achieve the right levels and volume. There is more air as you say on the dts mix, but you are also right in that the Dolby track is more aggressive and has more punch. But it's not aggressive in a fatiguing way. Dialogue sounded clearer on the Dolby track but the dts had a little more seamless surround activity. The Bass is certainly lower and louder on the Dolby track. The dts bass is also low, clean and tight too.

Both tracks rule and I also agree with you that this may be the best Dolby track I've ever heard. Sometimes the Dolby tracks can sound a tad digital and this one does not.

I wish they were both mastered from the same source for level reasons. It would be much easier to compare. And who but the sound engineers really know which mix is more accurate???

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