Jump to content



Sign up for a free account to remove the pop-up ads

Signing up for an account is fast and free. As a member you can join in the conversation, enter contests and remove the pop-up ads that guests get. Click here to create your free account.

Photo
- - - - -

Sub $2K 5.1 home theater speaker shootout


  • You cannot start a new topic
  • Please log in to reply
11 replies to this topic

#1 of 12 OFFLINE   Joe Skibinski

Joe Skibinski

    Auditioning



  • 4 posts
  • Join Date: Dec 08 2004

Posted December 08 2004 - 04:06 AM

Well I've finally narrowed down my choices so far for a 5.1 speaker setup...but would like some feedback on which is better or what changes need to be made based on people's experiences. I live in Sioux Falls, SD so listening to speakers at a nice audio store is not an option (unless you consider BB or CC nice).

Ascend
CMT-340m (fronts)
CMT-340c (center)
CBM-170 (surrounds)
VTF-2MK2 (sub)
$1,673

Paradigm
Phantom (fronts)
CC-270 (center)
ADP-170 (surrounds)
PDR 12 (sub)
$1,806

Rocket
RS 250 MKII (fronts)
RSC 100 MKII (center)
RS 150 (surrounds)
SV PB10-ISD sub
$1,728

Anyone care to comment on these three choices or other options available?

#2 of 12 OFFLINE   John Garcia

John Garcia

    Executive Producer



  • 11,562 posts
  • Join Date: Jun 24 1999
  • Real Name:John
  • LocationNorCal

Posted December 08 2004 - 04:28 AM

I like that first package, though I'd go with another 340 for the center rather than a 170. Is there a reason for that? For the $$, that Paradigm package is not going to compete well with the others.
HT: Emotiva UMC-200, Emotiva XPA-3, Carnegie Acoustics CSB-1s + CSC-1, GR Research A/V-1s, Epik Empire, Oppo BDP-105, PS4, PS3,URC R-50, APC-H10, Panamax 5100 Bluejeans Cable
System Two: Marantz PM7200, Pioneer FS52s, Panasonic BD79
(stolen) : Marantz SR-8300, GR Research A/V-2s, Sony SCD-222ES SACD, Panasonic BD-65, PS3 60G (250G)

Everybody is a genius, but if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it’ll spend its whole life believing that it is stupid.” – Albert Einstein

 


#3 of 12 OFFLINE   Joe Skibinski

Joe Skibinski

    Auditioning



  • 4 posts
  • Join Date: Dec 08 2004

Posted December 08 2004 - 04:36 AM

Oops, I edited my typo to the first post. I had the center and surrounds switched in the Ascend package.

#4 of 12 OFFLINE   Chris Quinn

Chris Quinn

    Screenwriter



  • 1,127 posts
  • Join Date: Jan 12 2003

Posted December 08 2004 - 04:39 AM

I'd take the Ascends. Both the Ascends and Rockets easily outperform the Paradigm package listed. The 340s with that sub I'd be willing to put in a blind test against Paradigm 100s. The 250 is a nice speaker, too. Again my personal preference is the 340. The 550 is the Rocket to compare with the 340. The 550s and 340s sound very similar. Maybe order a pair of 340s and 250s to start with to decide which sound you like better and return the one you don't prefer and order the rest.

#5 of 12 OFFLINE   Alex Prosak

Alex Prosak

    Supporting Actor



  • 765 posts
  • Join Date: Dec 09 2001

Posted December 08 2004 - 04:53 AM

I've never heard the Ascends but I can say that the Paradigm package won't hold a candle to the Rocket package. I think Chris's advice of ordering a pair of Rocket 250's and Ascend 340's for your own comparison is great.

#6 of 12 OFFLINE   John Garcia

John Garcia

    Executive Producer



  • 11,562 posts
  • Join Date: Jun 24 1999
  • Real Name:John
  • LocationNorCal

Posted December 08 2004 - 06:25 AM

Will you get a deal on the VTF-2 with the Ascend package? If not, I might recommend going with the PB-10 instead. I just picked up a PB-10 and sold my VTF-2 (ver 1). For the price, the PB-10 is a better deal. Performance wise they are close, but the PB-10 is more potent and extends deeper.


Posted Image I was going to say 340s all the way around would be a nice setup, but I think 170s will work just fine as surrounds. My setup is very similar with 3 identical MTM speakers up front and 2 matching 2-way surrounds and it works great.
HT: Emotiva UMC-200, Emotiva XPA-3, Carnegie Acoustics CSB-1s + CSC-1, GR Research A/V-1s, Epik Empire, Oppo BDP-105, PS4, PS3,URC R-50, APC-H10, Panamax 5100 Bluejeans Cable
System Two: Marantz PM7200, Pioneer FS52s, Panasonic BD79
(stolen) : Marantz SR-8300, GR Research A/V-2s, Sony SCD-222ES SACD, Panasonic BD-65, PS3 60G (250G)

Everybody is a genius, but if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it’ll spend its whole life believing that it is stupid.” – Albert Einstein

 


#7 of 12 OFFLINE   paul clipsel

paul clipsel

    Stunt Coordinator



  • 163 posts
  • Join Date: May 30 2004

Posted December 08 2004 - 07:15 AM

I just did my bedroom with this setup except I got the STF-2 instead of the VTF so it ended up a bit cheaper. I am really very impressed with the 340's, as I had my doubts about them being worth it for the bedroom. Glad they talked me out of getting the smaller 170's. PC

#8 of 12 OFFLINE   ChadLB

ChadLB

    Screenwriter



  • 1,523 posts
  • Join Date: May 05 2002

Posted December 08 2004 - 07:38 AM

I have the older Rocket 250s and I did alot of 2 channel listening with a sub while I debated this is the route to go and I really enjoyed the sound they produced with my SVS. I think your best bet is buy a Rocket 250 and Ascend 340 and decide for yourself.

#9 of 12 OFFLINE   Eddie Horton

Eddie Horton

    Stunt Coordinator



  • 237 posts
  • Join Date: May 23 2004

Posted December 08 2004 - 07:49 AM

I own the Ascend 340/170 combo, but have the VTF3-MkII. I am extremely pleased with my setup, and for the money could not have done better. The Paradigm combo will not compete with the Ascends at, or substantially more than, the same price. Having listened to many Paradigm speakers, this is not a slam at them, just an observation.
Save the whales! Trade them for valuable prizes.

#10 of 12 OFFLINE   Stephen Hopkins

Stephen Hopkins

    Screenwriter



  • 2,598 posts
  • Join Date: Jul 19 2002

Posted December 09 2004 - 07:14 AM

I'd give a look at a Swans/SVS combo. You could do 2.1 mains and surrounds, C3 center, and and a PB-12 ISD for under $1600, or you could do 5.2 mains, 2.1 surrounds, C3 center, and PB12-ISD for just under your $2k limit. I've heard the Swans, the Rockets, and the Paradigms mentioned. The Swans are an extremely neutral speakers, the Paradigms being a bit forward and the Rockets being a bit laid back. The packages i've mentioned include a better sub from SVS and one includes a great set of floorstanding mains that are a dead match for the C3 center over their shared range. Even with the packages you've described you could step up to a PB12-ISD and stay under your $2k budget. Also, the rocket center you've chosen doesn't have the same tweeter as the mains you've chosen, so i'd step up to the RSC200 if you decide to go with the rockets. The RS150s also have a different tweeter than the mains, but this is of less concern than the front soundstage.

#11 of 12 OFFLINE   AlanZ

AlanZ

    Screenwriter



  • 1,335 posts
  • Join Date: Sep 15 2002

Posted December 09 2004 - 07:56 AM

Magnepan MMGs (fronts) $550 Magnepan MMG-Ws (surrounds) $299 Phantom Center $0 - or - Magnepan MMG-C (center) $299 SVS PB-10 ISD $429 Total = $1278-1577 Factory direct....60 day in-home trial *If you happen to try these speakers, allow them plenty of break in time.
"Come on you Fockers....CONGA!!!"
-Dustin Hoffman as 'Bernie Focker'

Updated Equipment List

#12 of 12 OFFLINE   Nathan Gillmore

Nathan Gillmore

    Stunt Coordinator



  • 50 posts
  • Join Date: Oct 07 1998

Posted December 09 2004 - 08:46 AM

I almost have the same setup as the first package, here is mine: CBM-170 x4 CMT-340c VTF-2 (ver 1) I bought this after almost going with Axiom and auditioning Paradigm. I actually bought the Ascends based solely on recommendation for the various HT forums. Both the price and repuation sealed the deal, and I couldn't be happier. You just can't go wrong with Ascend/Hsu that's for sure.
Nathan Gillmore
Collector of Consoles




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users