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FCC: Over 99% of indecency complaints are from ONE group


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#1 of 76 Chris Lockwood

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Posted December 07 2004 - 06:12 AM

Anyone who thinks the public at large is rising up to complain about broadcast "indecency" needs to read this:

http://www.mediaweek...._id=1000731656

#2 of 76 Jeff Ulmer

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Posted December 07 2004 - 06:22 AM

That's not really surprising.

#3 of 76 Andrew Bunk

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Posted December 07 2004 - 08:29 AM

That's just sickening. These are indeed small, small people if they feel the need to waste their lives trying to make broadcasting more puritanical than it already is.

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#4 of 76 Jesse Skeen

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Posted December 07 2004 - 08:31 AM

I'm extremely disappointed that there hasn't been such a group formed to protest the use of continuous onscreen logos on TV networks. I find THAT indecent and offensive, and a misuse of public airwaves.
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#5 of 76 Jimi C

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Posted December 07 2004 - 08:36 AM

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I'm extremely disappointed that there hasn't been such a group formed to protest the use of continuous onscreen logos on TV networks. I find THAT indecent and offensive, and a misuse of public airwaves.


Im going to go way out on a limb and assume you own a rptv or a plasma..
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#6 of 76 CRyan

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Posted December 07 2004 - 09:58 AM

Thats about right. Although, I am curious how they know this.

BTW, I own an LCD and a DLP and find them outrageous. Part of the reason I have stopped watching broadcast TV altogether.

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#7 of 76 Jay H

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Posted December 07 2004 - 11:13 AM

I think Abe Simpson must be part of that PTC group!

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Posted December 07 2004 - 11:22 AM

I find most of the shows on tv not worth watching in the first place so I can't be offended it's on something I want to see. Most groups like that will go out of their way to find something indecent (like if the Cleavers were in the same bed heaven forbid back in the 50's)if it wasn't for tv they'd be complaining how we're ruining their children in another way, if it keeps up they may just have to learn their names too (the kids names that is)I wish people would stop worrying about how I raise my kids and worry about themselves then maybe the whole world would be better

#9 of 76 Keith Plucker

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Posted December 07 2004 - 01:20 PM

The title of this thread is incorrect. From the article...

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Through early October, 99.9 percent of indecency complaints—aside from those concerning the Janet Jackson “wardrobe malfunction” during the Super Bowl halftime show broadcast on CBS— were brought by the PTC, according to the FCC analysis dated Oct. 1. (The agency last week estimated it had received 1,068,767 complaints about broadcast indecency so far this year; the Super Bowl broadcast accounted for over 540,000, according to commissioners’ statements.)

As I read that, only about half came from that group. A staggering percentage none the less, but far from 99.9% unless you ignore the JJ incident.

That being said, finding out a tiny minority of organized people, aka a special interest group, has a large affect on government policy is certainly nothing new. We have seen it going on for years in regards to the legislation media companies helped push through. AARP is also quite active on behalf of their membership. Heck, we could probably go on and on. It is really just business as usual.

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#10 of 76 Glenn Overholt

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Posted December 07 2004 - 02:23 PM

I don't read that like you did. It looks to me like they didn't have the numbers for the PTC for Janet's malfunction, and left it out.

However, I think it would be nice to complain about the complainers the next time something pops up - or pops out!

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#11 of 76 Seth Paxton

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Posted December 07 2004 - 03:02 PM

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The numbers on the JJ aspect read as though they don't have the amount, or that since it was a special situation they didn't include it. They aren't saying that 500K people weren't PTC, just that of the 500K NON-SB complains, 99.9% did come just from the PTC.

The SB situation was obviously a special situation and didn't make sense to be included when looking at the day to day standard types of complaints received.

It could be that the PTC still sent in 400K of the 500K Super Bowl complaints too, but for the article they aren't dicussing the figures from that unique situation.

#12 of 76 Chris Lockwood

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Posted December 07 2004 - 04:44 PM

> The title of this thread is incorrect. From the article...

Let me help with your reading comprehension. The article also says this:

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According to a new FCC estimate obtained by Mediaweek, nearly all indecency complaints in 2003—99.8 percent—were filed by the Parents Television Council, an activist group.


That is exactly what the thread title says. What part of that is unclear?

#13 of 76 RobertR

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Posted December 08 2004 - 02:00 AM

I think it's generally the case that these kind of complaints, be they complaints about "decency", "insensitivity", or being "offensive" to some, come from a limited number of people, and don't necessarily represent the views of people in general.

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Posted December 08 2004 - 02:09 AM

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As I read that, only about half came from that group. A staggering percentage none the less, but far from 99.9% unless you ignore the JJ incident.
You're saying the exact opposite of the what your quote of the article stated.

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Posted December 14 2004 - 01:59 PM

This is the worst. I can't believe this. From IMDB:

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FCC Probes Telecast of Olympics Opening Ceremonies

The FCC, acting on "one or more indecency complaints," has asked NBC for tapes of its coverage of the opening ceremonies of the Athens Summer Olympics. According to published reports, the agency received at least one letter about naked dancers covered only in body paint who participated in the Aug. 13 show. Some reports indicated that the performance had already been heavily edited by the network before it aired and that the complaining party (or parties) may have been reacting to printed reports about it. (Leni Riefenstahl's classic 1938 documentary Olympia, Parts 1 and 2, which opens with a nude male runner carrying a torch among the ruins of Olympia, Greece, would presumably touch off a similar probe if it aired today. The documentary scene reportedly originated the modern Olympic torch ceremony.)


#16 of 76 Tony Whalen

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Posted December 15 2004 - 04:58 AM

God forbid people should just shut off their TV if they see something they find objectionable. Posted Image

That Olympics one just takes the cake. I watched the opening ceremonies, and the "painted" figures (no idea if they were nude, or wearing body-stockings) were simply amazing and very artistic.

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Posted December 15 2004 - 05:20 AM

>"God forbid people should just shut off their TV if they see something they find objectionable."

Well, sure. I used to say that too.

And I thought the whole JJ thing was way overblown.

But I haven't watched network tv in a long time ... probably about 7 years or so. Til recently, I've added an OTA antenna for local HD channels.

I watch a few network shows occasionally. The crime type shows.

I'm watching Cold Case a week or so ago, and the female lead says something about a guy "feeling her up". Then I'm watching CSI, and I see a row of vibrators sitting there.

Now, I'm no prude ... at least I don't think so. But I just don't feel language and images like that belong on early to mid prime time programming.

Not only have I begun to understand the groups' protests ... I pretty much agree with them. I would not have any reasonable expectation of such language in a show airing at 8 p.m. And I don't have kids ... but if I did, I'd be very likely to complain very vocally to FCC and the networks involved.

#18 of 76 Jeff Ulmer

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Posted December 15 2004 - 05:41 AM

Who do we complain to to get more indecency on TV? Posted Image

We can have violence a plenty, but god forbid we see some flesh. Just which is harming our society more? Posted Image

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Posted December 15 2004 - 08:13 AM

I remember those figures/dancers covered in body paint, and I'm pretty darn sure they had their unmentionables covered up.

Colin Quinn made a great joke about the Super Bowl incident on Comedy Central's Last Laugh '04 (this is not verbatim at all, but the point is still there):

"I don't see what the big deal was. The people that complained about it said that the Super Bowl is supposed to be a family-friendly event. What about all the commericals for beer, Viagra, Levitra, and Cialis? If I down a few bottles and pop a pill, I sure as hell want to see some titties."

#20 of 76 Ricardo C

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Posted December 15 2004 - 09:03 AM

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I'm watching Cold Case a week or so ago, and the female lead says something about a guy "feeling her up". Then I'm watching CSI, and I see a row of vibrators sitting there.

Now, I'm no prude ... at least I don't think so. But I just don't feel language and images like that belong on early to mid prime time programming.

Let me get this straight... You're watching CSI, and a "row of vibrators" offends you, but you're totally ok with the endless parade of decomposed bodies and gory flashbacks? Posted Image

And I don't watch "Cold Case", but isn't it also a cop show dealing with unsolved crimes?

If sexual content doesn't belong on "early to mid prime time programming", then neither do scenes of rotting corpses and graphic murders. To complain about one and not the other is a little hypocritical.

Maybe TV manufacturers need to make the OFF button a bit more visible.

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