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#1 of 55 Scott Weinberg

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Posted October 18 2004 - 12:39 AM

Comes out in 2 days, but I can't find a review out there.

Anyone have a list of "new" footage that's in the film? (I hope it's a real DC and not the exact same movie with a new "ending". I hate that crapola.)

And will all the extras from the first DVD also be on this new set? That would be nice.

I dug the movie a lot but (like most of you) I knew there'd be a Director's Cut, so I avoided the initial DVD.

#2 of 55 Scott Weinberg

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Posted October 18 2004 - 12:57 AM

OK, I was able to track down one answer: ALL the extras are being carried over, plus a new commentary track from Del Toro...plus a third disc of all new stuff.

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#3 of 55 JonZ

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Posted October 18 2004 - 01:08 AM

Scott,
This is from the other Hellboy thread....

" Here they are!!

SPOILERS AHEAD!!!


*** Marks the footage included in the DELETED SCENES of the first release DVD.

1) Just an extra 2 shots of the EYELESS Christ at the 1944 prologue.

2) Extra footage in the exploration of the Ice Cave. ***

3) Rasputin is revealed to have lost his eyes. (Watch the 1944 "sucked in" footage of Rasputin to see the PG-13 version of said idea)

4) Broom is told EXACTLY how long he has left and he takes a decision about how to spend his last days.

5) Added footage at the entrance of the MACHEN LIBRARY, We see the BPRD "sealing" the courtyard area befor HB and Abe come out of the Garbage truck.

6)Rasputin Ilsa and Kroenen are seen in the underground area that HB will explore later. Reveal of Rasputin wearing GLASS EYES. SAMMAEL duplication made clearer.

7) Longer scene between HB and Myers outside the hospital. Origin of the nickname "Boy scout"

8) Extended scene between Liz and Myers at the mental hospital. We see Liz playing w/ some rubber bands on her wrist.

9) Scene in a taxi cab between Liz and Myers ***

10) Added beats at Liz´s arrival at BPRD

11) Scene between Myers and Liz Re Rubber bands.

12) Extra scene depicting Hellboy´s escape from his cell.

13) Broom reacts to Hellboy´s escape.

14) Hellboy extra footage as he spies on Liz and Myers.

15) Extra Line from Broom to Rasputin after the Apocalypse vision.
Also, The apocalypse footage is played with NO DIALOGUE over it.

16) Russian Warehouse scene. Origin of the Portal Stone ***

17) Extra footage on Jeffrey Tambor´s lines in the cemetery. 2 instances.

18) Hellboy steps on Rasputin´s glass eye. Rasputin is seen with one empty eye socket.


These scenes total about 15 minutes of footage. I may have neglected an event or two, but this is pretty much the guideline.

Marco Beltrami´s music is preserved completely except for the reprise after main credits which was not an original piece anyway. Marco composed a couple of new themes for the added footage, namely RUSSIAN WAREHOUSE.

This is my preferred cut, not because its more "audience friendly" but because it tells the story better.

So, there... Hope you like it.

GDT"

#4 of 55 Richard Smith

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Posted October 18 2004 - 04:24 AM

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OK, I was able to track down one answer: ALL the extras are being carried over, plus a new commentary track from Del Toro...plus a third disc of all new stuff.


I got my copy on Saturday and the specs going around are wrong. The new version is missing the Del Toro/Mingola commentary, the cast commentary(now on Disc 3) and the Gerald McBoing Boing cartoons from Disc 1 and has replaced them with the new commentary and an isolated score in 5.1. The Right Hand of Doom feature has now got a trivia track added to it and the storyboard track has been added to. The second DVD is the same as the original release and the third disc is all new stuff. So if you want every extra you still need the old release. As for the Director's cut I found it to be a much more satisfying experience. The film really needed the extra scenes with Rasputin.

#5 of 55 Philip Verdieck

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Posted October 18 2004 - 04:48 AM

Seemless branching/merged into the cut?

#6 of 55 Aaron Silverman

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Posted October 18 2004 - 05:04 AM

How does the new commentary compare with the old one?

And how is the cast commentary included on disc 3? Is the theatrical cut of the film on there?
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#7 of 55 Aaron Silverman

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Posted October 18 2004 - 05:11 AM

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I got my copy on Saturday and the specs going around are wrong.


Richard, is your copy region 1 or region 2? Columbia's web page lists the new set as having all the same features that were included in the original:

Director's Cut Feature List
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#8 of 55 Richard Smith

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Posted October 18 2004 - 05:37 AM

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And how is the cast commentary included on disc 3? Is the theatrical cut of the film on there?


The commentary is on the theatrical which plays in a small box in the lower left corner of the screen, while the rest of the screen is taken up by the video of the cast.

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How does the new commentary compare with the old one?


Sorry I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet. I've watched most of the stuff on Disc 3 and theres not actually all that much there. If you take away the cast commentary I'd say theres about 50 minutes worth of material.

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Richard, is your copy region 1 or region 2?

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#9 of 55 Bryan Tuck

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Posted October 18 2004 - 05:59 AM

So the Director's Cut edition is the one that has the isolated score? Hope so; that's always a great feature to have.
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#10 of 55 Richard Smith

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Posted October 18 2004 - 06:08 AM

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So the Director's Cut edition is the one that has the isolated score?


Yep. I was disappointed after it looked like it had been removed from the specs so it was a nice surprise to find it on there.

#11 of 55 Aaron Silverman

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Posted October 18 2004 - 09:06 AM

So now the question is whether the director's cut of the film is worth paying $23 for instead of paying $8.33 for the original release. (I haven't seen the film yet.)
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#12 of 55 Grant H

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Posted October 18 2004 - 09:15 AM

I'll be looking for it in the previously-viewed DVD section at BBV and Movie Gallery.
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#13 of 55 Aaron Silverman

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Posted October 18 2004 - 09:28 AM

You won't find the 3-disc version in there.
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Posted October 18 2004 - 11:29 PM

Most of the Extras are the same and there are a few new ones. The only thing this set lacks is the theatrical cut.

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#15 of 55 JonZ

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Posted October 19 2004 - 12:57 AM

Im being very careful with my double dipping.

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#16 of 55 Aaron Silverman

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Posted October 19 2004 - 04:07 AM

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Most of the Extras are the same and there are a few new ones. The only thing this set lacks is the theatrical cut.

It's also missing the Gerald McBoing Boing shorts and the original Del Toro/ Mingola commentary track. And I assume that disc 3 has the theatrical cut, since it has the original cast commentary (although "video commentary" could mean that there's no way to watch that cut without the commentators on screen). Too bad they didn't stick the original commentary on disc 3.
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#17 of 55 Ken_McAlinden

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Posted October 19 2004 - 06:48 AM

I would pay $8.33 for a disc of the Gerald McBoing Boing shorts, so it looks like I'll be double dipping all at once. Anybody need a Hellboy disc two? I'm gonna have an extra. Posted Image

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Posted October 19 2004 - 08:59 AM

I like the slim cases but would prefer a custom cover for a three disc case (like M*A*S*H). Anyone know a source?

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#19 of 55 Andy Patrizio

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Posted October 19 2004 - 10:34 AM

I loved the new commentary. Del Toro talks non-stop about everything, from his introduction to the Hellboy graphic novels to the new scenes, which ones he was sorry to see cut, and so on. I thought he and Mignola had great chemistry on the original cut but he does well solo, too.

The video commentary was really pointless. All you get is four people looking at a TV screen and occasional casting a nervous glance at the camera recording them (especially Rupert Evans). That idea fell flat.

#20 of 55 Ben_@

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Posted October 19 2004 - 01:54 PM

I know i'm definitely in the minority on this, but when i read that "all" the extras would be included, including the Gerald McBoingboing cartoons, i was thrilled. Too bad that wasn't the case. I can't justify spending more money just to get the few extras that aren't included, however.
Still, the whole package looks great.


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