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DualDisc Unveiled to Retailers


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#1 of 261 OFFLINE   Felix Martinez

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Posted October 14 2004 - 04:51 AM

Hi Folks -

FYI...I just got this preliminary info on the DualDisc rollout this Fall, beginning October 19. A formal press release should follow and I'll post back here with more info as I get it...

Note: this is a partial list.

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David Bowie -- Reality
Good Charlotte -- The Young and The Hopeless
Miles Davis -- Kind Of Blue
Incubus -- A Crow Left Of The Murder
Yo-Yo Ma -- Yo-Yo Ma Plays Ennio Morricone
Usher -- 8701
Blondie -- The Curse Of Blondie
Josh One -- Narrow Path
The Hiss -- Panic Movement
Blues Traveler -- Truth Be Told
Robert Cray -- Time Will Tell
The Mavericks -- The Mavericks
Queensryche -- Tribe
Joey Ramone -- Don't Worry About Me
Curtis Mayfield -- Live At Ronnie Scott's
Taj Mahal -- Live At Ronnie Scott's
Roy Ayers -- Live At Ronnie Scott's
Lynyrd Skynyrd -- Then & Now
Gary Moore -- Back To The Blues
Jane Monheit -- Come Dream With Me
Jane Monheit -- Never Never Land
Geoff Tate -- Geoff Tate
Living Colour -- Collideoscope
Styx -- Cyclorama
Widespread Panic -- Don't Tell The Band
Widespread Panic -- Ball
London Symphony -- Handel's Messiah
Cool Yule Allstars -- Big Band Christmas
London Symphony -- Classic Christmas
Utah Symphony Orchestra -- The Nutcracker
Tipper -- Surrounded
Todd Rundgren
Bob Marley & The Wailers
Ministry
Dar William
Big Head Todd and the Monsters
Brides Of Destruction
The Fixx
The Pogues
Gary Numan
Eddie Money
Simple Plan
Trapt
The Donnas


#2 of 261 OFFLINE   Chris Lockwood

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Posted October 14 2004 - 05:14 AM

Another new format? Never heard of it.

#3 of 261 OFFLINE   LarryDavenport

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Posted October 14 2004 - 05:36 AM

It's a stupid format with CD Redbook on one side and DVD-V on the other. It may be the death knell for SACD and DVDA.

#4 of 261 OFFLINE   Will_B

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Posted October 14 2004 - 05:46 AM

Hurumpf. The one title I am interested in, I already have.
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Posted October 14 2004 - 06:07 AM

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It's a stupid format with CD Redbook on one side and DVD-V on the other.


I coulnd't agree more and don't intend to be a guinea pig to see if it ends up getting stuck in any piece of hardware I have (home or car). I wish them all the luck in the world but if it comes to a choice of a DualDisc or a separate CD, I'll either buy the CD or if they is a DVD-V concert by the artist of the same stuff, I'll consider that instead. I always have a backlog of music to listen to and if the format is around a few yrs. down the road and there are no reported problems (to my satisfaction) and there is real DVD-A content on one side I may consider trying one.

Will, that is the problem with all of the new formats, ltd. titles. I like the back catalog stuff but if they remain as niche formats sooner or later I'm going to reach a point where I either have stuff I don't need to re-buy or am not interested in what's available. The music industry needs to sit in a room and listen to consumers and come out with a format that will be supported by all of them on all releases or at least a good chunk of the current stuff that is being bought by the public.

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Posted October 14 2004 - 08:20 AM

As far as I know the specs for Dual Disc, has ALWAYS stated that DVD_A compatibility is possible, just not necessarily standard as with the bowie disc, but a lot of those titles are silverline, and I would bet they will be DVD-A one side, and CD the other: geoff tate, ministry, living colour to name a few.

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Posted October 14 2004 - 08:26 AM

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It's a stupid format with CD Redbook on one side and DVD-V


I was told that the only company not putting hi-res (only Dolby Digital) on the DVD side is Sony, but I have yet to see the final discs.

Once I get my paws on 'em, I will post my comments.

Cheers,

#8 of 261 OFFLINE   Paul.S

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Posted October 14 2004 - 12:55 PM

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#9 of 261 OFFLINE   Lee Scoggins

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Posted October 14 2004 - 02:18 PM

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Another new format? Never heard of it.


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It may be the death knell for SACD and DVDA.


Yes.



Wait a minute...maybe we should tell Universal to hold back those 150 SACDs in 2005. Posted Image
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#10 of 261 OFFLINE   Kevin C Brown

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Posted October 14 2004 - 06:12 PM

I think I will stick with DVD-A and SACD and boycott this stupid idea. How is this any different from some recent CD releases with bonus DVDs? It isn't.
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Posted August 30 2004 - 04:48 AM

It might be off topic - but, DVD Audio council homepage has been updated. In fact redone. Posted Image
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#12 of 261 OFFLINE   Michael St. Clair

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Posted August 25 2004 - 06:53 AM

The Bowie disc really is great (long, wonderful video), but for high-res you'll need the SACD. Thanks, Sony. Posted Image

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The last two are certainly very mainstream but I wish that the Miles Davis is a new title. Another issue of Kind of Blue would be underwhelming.


Releasing 'Kind of Blue' is fan-friendly, as it doesn't require all the Miles fans to bo buy an SACD player. Posted Image I'm all for reissuing old titles in addition to new ones.

But Sony Corporate surely won't allow high-res on 'Kind of Blue'. Posted Image

#13 of 261 OFFLINE   Michael St. Clair

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Posted August 25 2004 - 07:26 AM

I'll wager we get high-res on many/most of the Universal and Warner releases, and on none of the Sony/BMG releases. EMI, who knows.

The WSJ article implies that some of the discs will be single-inventory (no separate CD), which is interesting.

#14 of 261 OFFLINE   Michael St. Clair

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Posted August 28 2004 - 04:27 AM

Some heavier hitters.

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Forthcoming DualDiscs (Release date: October 19th) according to a press release (in German) of the "National Association of Recording Merchandisers" (NARM) in San Diego August 25th.

"David Bowie - Reality"
"Miles Davis - Kind of Blue"
"Train - My Private Nation"
"Usher - 8701"

On Sony, unfortunately.

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"Backers of the DualDisc format include the DVD Forum and all major record labels, including Sony, but Sony is sticking with Super Audio CD as its high-rez format. Sony-branded DualDiscs will feature Dolby AC3 audio on the DVD side."


#15 of 261 OFFLINE   Michael St. Clair

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Posted August 28 2004 - 08:43 AM

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Lousy list. Been there done that. Have the SACD.


Not heavier hitters to us. Heavier hitters to the mainstream, who never would have noticed the SACDs. DualDisc looks to actually have marketing behind it, unlike SACD and DVD-A.

#16 of 261 OFFLINE   Michael St. Clair

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Posted August 28 2004 - 04:27 PM

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Far too early IMHO to make this statement.


Yeah, but never far to early to predict that high-res will be absent (you have nothing to base that on), and that incompatility problems will endanger the format.

Early statements are always allowed, when they are negative and fit Lee's agenda.

Let us remember the last new format whose launch was accompanied be press releases from all five labels, and with a forthcoming title from a major artist expected to sell a millionunits? No matter how one feels about DualDisc, it's pretty obvious to us rational folks that DualDisc has a bigger marketing effort behind it than we've seen from DVD-A and SACD. Are you actually predicting otherwise?

#17 of 261 OFFLINE   Michael St. Clair

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Posted August 30 2004 - 05:05 AM

DVD-A at Best Buy in Cincinnati is the same as it has been for the last couple of years.

Alive but not restocked very well (and SACD is the same).

No signs of any format being eliminated here.

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Posted August 26 2004 - 05:28 PM

I saw one of those "FBI warnings" on a CD jewel case for the first time the other day. No mention of Fair Use -- just a huge shield, with a "warning" that (IIRC) was far from an accurate summary of the law.

I guess some of the record industry people still believe that the most effective sales technique is "The beatings will continue until morale improves." Posted Image

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Posted August 25 2004 - 08:17 AM

For a goof, I might pick up a disc - just to try it out.

Hopefully there'll be a title I'd be interested in sooner than later.

#20 of 261 OFFLINE   Marc Colella

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Posted August 27 2004 - 08:41 AM

50 titles to choose from is pretty decent.

I didn't think there would be that many to start with.

There has to be something within the 50 that interests me.


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