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#21 of 142 OFFLINE   Cameron Yee

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Posted September 03 2004 - 07:01 AM

Well, as a CostCo member I'm expecting to pay $30 for the set, so that would pass Paul's price requirement. Posted Image
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#22 of 142 OFFLINE   Aryn Leroux

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Posted September 03 2004 - 07:04 AM

$30 ? that's pretty good. I bought the first two seasons at costco and they were $34.99 each so i expect that to be the price for season 3 next week at my local costco.

#23 of 142 OFFLINE   Cameron Yee

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Posted September 03 2004 - 07:10 AM

Actually I think that was the price when it had the $10 rebate attached. So it'll be 39.99.
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#24 of 142 OFFLINE   Rian

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Posted September 03 2004 - 10:47 AM

I bought the first two seasons after being a loyal fan of the show. Season 3, despite it being the worst season, wasn't as bad as some other crap that's on TV these days.

The only question is, do I want to buy it to keep the collection from the first two seasons or shall I just cut my losses and say the show is a lost cause?

The same could be said for Smallville as well.

#25 of 142 OFFLINE   LanieParker

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Posted September 03 2004 - 01:00 PM

Oh people, you sure don't make this easy for those of us who became fans through the dvds. I too have been on the fence about this one. I absolutely loved the first two seasons and was so excited about season 3 coming out until I heard nothing but the worst about it. I think I have heard maybe a handful of lukewarm comments about the show, but like someone else mentioned on here, even those weren't enough to keep me excited about the release.

My plan for now is to rent the third season and then if I enjoy it as much as the other seasons I may purchase it later on.

#26 of 142 OFFLINE   MaraKM

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Posted September 03 2004 - 02:08 PM

What some of you can't appreciate the love triangle bit ?

Nope, can't stand the triangle. It was boring, and took up screen time that could have been put to better use. And the writers' constant attempts to show the smartness/sexiness/bad-ass-ousity/whatever of Mrs. Triangle kept backfiring, at the expense of the existing characters.

The point people are making that things were too unbelievable as to why it sucked. Did you even watch the first two years ?[snip]... The show was never made to be very believable. It was just good spy escapism fun and Season 3 while not as good is still better than most of whats on tv.


I'm reminded of something said in the writer/producer commentary of the movie "Dead Again." They were talking about the scene where Branagh & Thompson were dancing on a rooftop in the rain. Producer (Lindsay Doran) was worrying about the fact that there was a lamp & boom-box operating in the downpour (or had gotten audience test cards complaining about it) and was talking with exec. producer Sydney Pollack about it. He said that the lamp wasn't the problem -- the problem was with the characters, and if you fixed that, nobody would ever notice the lamp. And he was right; they added a scene that developed the romance before the rooftop scene, and none of the next test audiences ever mentioned the violation of the laws of electricity.

So, yeah, Alias has always had an element of the ludicrous. I mean, Rambaldi? Marshall's gadgets? But it was fine, because the characterization was realistic. Personally, I didn't get hooked on S1 & S2 because of the spy escapism. I was hooked on the characters. The spy-stuff & sexiness were great fun, but it was the emotional drama, the developing bond between Sydney & Jack, and later all 3 Bristows that made me love the show. (And Will, lotsa love for Will.)

For me S3 lost the characters. The writers made choices which violated the continuity they'd already established. Not just the basic timeline stuff (such as when Vaughn Sr. was killed) but the emotional continuity. I mean like deciding that
Sloane had an affair with Irina, when they'd made so much of his love for Emily, not to mention Jack & Irina's passion
. And the suspension of disbelief required of me was just too much. I could no longer see the Wizard of Oz, just the guy behind the curtain fiddling with his levers.

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Posted September 03 2004 - 05:21 PM

Season 3 is aggravating but I'm going to recommend it. I think it'll play better on dvd. Some subplots are milked too long, but there are some real bright spots (David Cronenberg) Maybe they should have put out an abridged season 3! Like 12 episodes. I appreciate messing with the status quo of a show, otherwise you end up with the star treks, where the boat is never rocked, and consistency is maintained, but there's nobody left to care.

#28 of 142 OFFLINE   Tim Glover

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Posted September 03 2004 - 05:50 PM

S1 & S2 made amazingly compulsive viewing,


Amen! Good point Paul. I'll add that these sets have also remained effective when viewed again-even knowing the surprises of each episode. Sure, nothing beats the first time, but these S1 & S2 are high in quality with only a few episodes that were average.

I'm buying the set, despite lukewarm and some harsh views of S3. Just too big of a fan to miss out. And I've been wondering what happens to these people after seeing the finale of season 2 when Vaughn says, "you've been missing for 2 years"...

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Posted September 03 2004 - 07:42 PM

Hey Paul

Buy the set. Even though I hate the show right now I'm gonna keep watching it because I want to know what happened in the missing two years. Of course if it ends with Sloan being the one behind it, I'll slit my writs.

I agree the Ms.Triangle charcter is too much and seeing as how she's on the box it seems she's going to ge a HUGE part of Season 3. it looks like she's the Poochie of the Alias universe. No one wants her but the producers shove her down your throats.

Oh and I've never watched Alias for the action scenes. I watched it for the characters. I watched it to see the stoy develop and to see these people gorw. Well right after Phase One these charcters stopped growing. I want to see this show get it's feet back on the ground. And more importantly I invested 2 dvd sets into this story and i want to see it to the end!

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Posted September 03 2004 - 09:00 PM

I can't wait for season three to arive. Although it wasn't as good as the previous seasons, it is still better than most of the crap on tv these days. ie: reality shows and sitcoms

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Posted September 04 2004 - 02:02 AM

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Tread as lightly as you can without giving away too much but what the heck happened then to season 3?!!! Did they get different writers?
Tim, without giving too much away, season 3 is a season with minimal JJ Abrams input. ABC, in an attempt to have the show find a wider audience, applied much pressure on the creative team to simplify things (so a first-time viewer could "pick up and go.") As a result, JJ basically moved on (with the exception of re-tooling the ending of the season finale) and season 3 was "dumbed-down" considerably. The mythos episodes (Rambaldi device, etc.) were few and far between, and we were left with lots of Sydney, Loren, Vaughan and Sark running-around-chasing-each-other type shows. Horrible? No. But, certainly well below the excellence of the first two seasons...

The good news is that JJ is back in full force for season 4, once again assuming creative control. As mentioned, the fourth season will not begin until January and will air consecutively through May. ABC has also picked up two new Abrams projects, the promising-looking, "Lost," which debuts this month and a mid-season bounty hunter drama called, "The Catch," starring Alias's, Greg Gunberg.

The bad news? The Alias time slot this fall goes to new show, "Desperate Housewives." Like, "Lost," this series is generating lots of positive buzz and is considered to be one of the network's finest offerings. Good ratings for Desperate Housewives and low ratings for Alias may well be a big problem...

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#32 of 142 OFFLINE   Tim Glover

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Posted September 04 2004 - 02:29 AM

Oh and I've never watched Alias for the action scenes. I watched it for the characters. I watched it to see the stoy develop and to see these people gorw


Another good point Ray. Far more intriguing than any stunt sequence is the mystery of what has unraveled for Sydney. Her father, mother and that whole situation was terrific and had me caring. The situation with Will & Francy was also great.

Here's hoping that season 3 meets at least a few expectations. I hope to watch the whole thing next week!

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Posted September 04 2004 - 05:11 AM

Let me just say that I am eagerly awaiting S3 to rent due to the HUGE cliff hanger at the end of season 2. Even with all the negativity about the 3rd season I still want to watch and know what is going on. I do love this show.

I almost didn't watch the last episode of season 2 so that I could watch it Sept 6th and then rush out to get S3 right away! lol.

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Posted September 04 2004 - 05:51 AM

I too find myself on the fence with this set. I loved season 1 and thought that season 2 started out great, but really really did a huge nose-dive into a pool of suckage in the second half.

Part of the problem is her relationship with Vaughn, the guy has zero charisma and should be limited to a role as a CIA desk-jockey. Also the show seemed to be wallowing in more personal melodrama than a spanish soap-opera.

Reading these posts I get the impression that Season 3 is like the second half of season two, only amplified x2.

I guess this will be a netflix rental rather than a purchase.

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Posted September 07 2004 - 05:34 AM

Well, this morning I sat outisde Blockbuster at 9:50 am waiting for them to open and while I sat there I kept looking over my shoulder at Wal-Mart.

Yes, I broke down and bought ALIAS 3. I was so going to rent it, but honestly, I really want to own it.

So much for will power!

I just finished watching the first episode and all I have to say is.... I'm so glad I have the boxset.

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Posted September 07 2004 - 07:16 AM

I just got home from buying this for a solid $37 after rewards coupon at Best Buy and let me just say that the packaging is among the sexiest I've ever seen. It's similar to the Gilmore Girls book pages packaging but slimmer and sleeker. The blooper reel was excellent too. You'd be hard pressed to find many blooper reels that exceed two minutes and are wholly satisfying. This one goes on for 7 and is one of the funniest I've ever seen. This cast is wacky. You just gotta love Jennifer Garner's faces.
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#37 of 142 OFFLINE   LanieParker

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Posted September 07 2004 - 09:01 AM

I agree about the packaging. I was very impressed with it. I like it alot better than the first two seasons.

$37 was a good buy. I paid $40 at Wal-Mart.

I asked the clerk at Blockbuster how many copies they got in and he replied with 1 and there were only two BB's that even got the series in. Apparently people are complaining about it to them. He still can't figure out why they only got 1 copy and why they were one of two stores to get it.

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Posted September 07 2004 - 10:53 AM

Man...is it just me, or does this disc set have a horrible transfer? There is an enormous amount of visible grain in the image that is borderline distracting at times. I was not impressed with this at all. The digital sound is good, as are the extras, but the picture quality is inconsistent and sucks ass at lot of the time.

Anyone else notice this?

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Posted September 07 2004 - 11:01 AM

I also agree about the packaging.I have never seen a dvd set that looks so awesome.Just seeing it on the shelf makes you want to own it because it looks so cool.When I bought mine at Best Buy I saw the sticker said $50.99 I was like wow ok that is not what it said in the paper.Luckily I kept the clipping.When I got to the counter it came out to $39.99.Which I am excited about because I love getting sets the first week when their on sale.Target has it for $45.99 which is what I paid for seasons 1 & 2. But I encourage everyone to go and buy it at Best Buy while it is on sale.For once Best Buy actually has the best buy.Posted Image

AnywayI just watched episode one and I can't wait to watch more.I had decided I wasn't gunna watch the season again right now but you just have to when it is in your hands.Such an awesome set!A+++++

Oh and I love that it had a preview for Felicity which I will be buying in 2 weeks.It also has a preview for Season 4 in the menu but there are no spoilers.Posted Image

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Posted September 07 2004 - 12:08 PM

I won't knock the S3 premiere - it stayed on my Tivo for many weeks after it premiered, mainly for the classic SpyDaddy line
"Michael Vaugh is just a boy who was never good enough for you" and for that entire scene
for Marshall's pen, and for the last
Syd/Vaughn scene and the hug
. If I end up at Costco this weekend, and see the set, that episode would be the main temptation to buying the set. It was only later on in the season that the "Where the hell is my Alias?!" feeling set in.