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DVD Beaver closes its doors. Please help them reopen! Read This Please!

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#1 of 21 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted August 26 2004 - 10:29 AM

We are very proud to be part of a community
that consists of several fine websites dedicated
to the subject of DVD.

It really hurts us when one of our friends is
in trouble. In this case, that friend happens

We are uncertain how many of you visit DVDBEAVER
on a regular basis and benefit from the information
that is posted there. We are certain that many of
you are familiar with the forum's owner, Gary
, who just happens to be a member of this
forum who frequently contributes invaluable DVD
information and statistics.

As we have mentioned to many of you before, DVD
forums like ours receive very little advertising
support from some Hollywood studios that use the Internet
and our forums as a marketing tool. The studios
would rather take their advertising elsewhere than
to invest in the on-line communities that help
support them. While DVD forums provide a wealth
of daily FREE information for its readers, the
sites are mostly run out of the pockets of its

DVDBEAVER.COM claims they feel embarrassed
to have to resort to a donation drive. They should
not be. Home Theater Forum has also resorted to
donation drives in the past when times were tough --
and thanks to the donations of our membership we
will not have to do a donation drive next year.

We would appreciate our members helping our friends
at DVDBEAVER.COM keep their doors open.

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Thank You

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#2 of 21 OFFLINE   Bleddyn Williams

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Posted August 27 2004 - 01:30 AM

Other threads have already brought this up, but hopefully this will catch more people's attention. I've already chipped in, as have others here - SAVE THE BEAVER!

#3 of 21 OFFLINE   Glen C

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Posted August 27 2004 - 02:13 AM

Never heard of the site, but it's sad to read anyways. Still if it's a $$$ loser, then no doubt long term the site owner is best served closing it down and moving on. Regarding your mini-rant Ron, the problem w/ forums (such as this) and DVD websites you know first hand... too many "zealots" who the studios don't feel are representative of the average paying consumer. Nevermind the studios are in what they see as a no-win situation as everything they do (good and bad) gets bashed with the same vigor. Bad news & hate spreads alot faster than praise. DVDs selling for $7.99 at Target/Walmart are the reason why DVD sales are exploding, not internet forums.

#4 of 21 OFFLINE   chrisMCG



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Posted August 27 2004 - 02:30 AM

Running a site can be darned expensive - I hope that the Beav will have the chance to re-open its doors. But I wouldn't have gone with Save the Beaver, Shave the Beaver would have been a hit with Internet geeks everywhere...

#5 of 21 OFFLINE   Rich Malloy

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Posted August 27 2004 - 02:55 AM

That'd be a shame, as this site is an extraordinarily unique resource. Moreover, it's a labor of love, not a profit-making enterprise. Gary's pulled together a group of fantastic folk from around the world who chip in to make the Beaver the best comparitive DVD site on the planet. And it's a site that focuses on films that really matter, not simply the latest mass-produced dreck.
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#6 of 21 OFFLINE   JohnnyHK


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Posted August 27 2004 - 03:57 AM

Just made a donation. I've used DVDBeaver countless times to figure out which version of a DVD is best.
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#7 of 21 OFFLINE   John Green

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Posted August 27 2004 - 04:49 AM

I too just made a donation. DVD Beaver is a unique site and every effort should be made in order to help Gary keep it going. Best wishes and good luck

#8 of 21 OFFLINE   Jim Blackie

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Posted August 27 2004 - 05:52 AM

I chipped in a week or more ago as soon as I heard. I support public radio, as well. If you use it, and they help you with info, don't you owe something to them? Some uncaring remarks I've heard here and elsewhere remind me of Scrooge's question to those collecting money for the poor: "Are there no prisons...Are there no work-houses?" These are projects of love by dedicated folks contributing their time and money to provide a (for some) valuable service. If you don't use these services, and don't want to contribute, then don't! But keep your "business philosophy" to yourself. Just because it doesn't EARN MONEY - just because it doesn't have any worth for you, does NOT make it worthless. Go, Gary!
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#9 of 21 OFFLINE   Glen C

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Posted August 27 2004 - 06:01 AM

*yawn* who said anything is worthless? In *your* rant you never considered the possibilities of the strain such a site puts on the owner/admin. Maybe it is just time to move on and dedicate his time, $ and devotion to other things, perhaps more important. Maybe it's not... but to ignore such a possibility is quite ignorant. You probably don't run a large website/forum yourself (i myself do) and it's clear you cannot fathom such an idea.

#10 of 21 OFFLINE   Romier S

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Posted August 27 2004 - 06:27 AM

Yet I cannot for the life of me understand why such an idea is being discussed at all. This is a thread dedicated to raising money for this site, not to discuss the feelings of the owner/admin. It seems to me the very existence of this thread (as well as the messsage on the website) would make it clear that the owner wants to continue the work he's done. If you want to donate, then do so. If you don't, why are you here? I donated as I have enjoyed the beaver for some time now and am more than glad to help them out.

#11 of 21 OFFLINE   Rich Malloy

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Posted August 27 2004 - 06:34 AM

I'm sure Romier speaks for the multitudes, but let's just move on folks. If you know the Beav, you surely love the Beav... let's help 'em out! Posted Image
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#12 of 21 OFFLINE   Patrick Sun

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Posted August 27 2004 - 09:04 AM

"Ward, I think you were a little hard on the Beaver last night."
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#13 of 21 OFFLINE   Colin Jacobson

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Posted August 27 2004 - 03:10 PM

Does the Beaver not have any affiliate links or anything? We have Amazon links that more than pay my $500 or so a year to run the site - I'd think they'd do just as well. I know they mentioned they didn't want advertising since they thought it would make them look less objective, which I understand - don't agree, since accepting screeners from studios brings up the same concept of bias, but I understand it. I don't think that Amazon links would cause the same possible taint, so if they don't have them, I'd be curious to know why...
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#14 of 21 OFFLINE   JohnnyHK


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Posted August 27 2004 - 06:13 PM

The Beaver's back! Now new and improved with Amazon affiliate links for the DVDs to help keep it thriving.


As Leslie Nielsen would say...Nice Beaver!

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#15 of 21 OFFLINE   John Hodson

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Posted August 27 2004 - 11:06 PM

To access the site go here, but I'm sure Gary will pop along soon. Gary; are you still accepting donations?
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#16 of 21 OFFLINE   Colin Jacobson

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Posted August 28 2004 - 01:45 AM

Guess that answers my question!Posted Image Based on my experience, the site should be financially set with Amazon links - they don't have me rolling in dough, but they more than cover my expenses...
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#17 of 21 OFFLINE   Magnus T

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Posted August 28 2004 - 08:45 AM

Does that mean the beaver is stuffed then? Posted Image
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#18 of 21 OFFLINE   Marc Colella

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Posted August 28 2004 - 03:05 PM

Great to see the site is back. Long live The Beaver !

#19 of 21 OFFLINE   Anthony_D


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Posted August 29 2004 - 09:16 AM

I love beaver. I'll do anything to keep it around...and open :b
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#20 of 21 OFFLINE   Chris Roberts

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Posted September 01 2004 - 07:33 AM

I hate to ask, but I'm having trouble affording my DVD purchases for the coming months. As you may or may not know there is a large number of worthwhile DVD's being released and each has a cost of its own. This hobby is as much a labor of love for me as it is for you so I feel we're all like one big community here in our little niche of the internet. Being able to purchase these upcoming releases will allow me to continue to support forums such as this one with FREE off-topic remarks, rants about why a particular movie sucks, and other comments that keep you reading when you should probably be doing something better with your time. And really isn't it worth a small donation to have one more person here to correct you on your opinions. Please send me money...

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