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Will Seinfeld be cropped?


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#1 of 12 OFFLINE   Carlos Garcia

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Posted August 06 2004 - 09:10 AM

I've read the Seinfeld press release where they say the show will be released in high definition. Since high definition is widescreen, and the show was originally shot in the regular TV 4:3 ratio, does this mean the DVD will show the picture cropped, like the Kung Fu DVD set?
I'm a classic TV fan. Widescreen? What's that?

#2 of 12 OFFLINE   Aaron_H

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Posted August 06 2004 - 09:59 AM

Carlos,

Seinfeld will not be cropped. When the press release says "now in high definition," they are actually saying that the shows were remastered in high definition.

Seinfeld was shot on film in the 4:3 aspect ratio. So, the producers of this DVD went back to the original film elements and made a whole new high definition transfer of the episodes. This high definition transfer is then used to create the DVD transfer at standard definition (480i/p). Just because a transfer is high definition does not mean that it is widescreen. It could be 4:3 or whatever.

The DVDs that will be released in November will be in standard definition. I imagine Sony may re-release Seinfeld in high definition someday on Blu-Ray (their proprietary high definition DVD format). This is probably more than a few years away, though.

#3 of 12 OFFLINE   Robert Ringwald

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Posted August 06 2004 - 04:16 PM

Yeah. I have a hard time believing they'd release seinfeld on DVD in FAKE widescreen if they aren't even committed to doing it with their movies that were filmed that way...

#4 of 12 OFFLINE   Travis W.

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Posted August 06 2004 - 05:09 PM

Very good point Robert.

#5 of 12 OFFLINE   Vince Maskeeper

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Posted August 06 2004 - 06:17 PM

Did it bother anyone else that the press released claimed, multiple times, the releases were in HD?

Never Looked So Good All 40 Episodes, Now in High Definition, Available November 23
Seinfeld, the show about nothing, finally debuts on DVD November 23 - newly enhanced in high definition.
bring the talent back to chat about the show and then see the original episodes with high-definition images has been a thrill for all of us



I know it's just a case of stupid marketing people not knowing shit about technology-- but it's openly false and further clouds the consumer understanding of HD!

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#6 of 12 OFFLINE   WillG

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Posted August 06 2004 - 11:53 PM

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Seinfeld was shot on film in the 4:3 aspect ratio.


WRONG!!!! Seinfeld is "Filmed in Panavision" so they must have been shot with anamorphic lenses at a 2.35:1 AR. Check out the credits next time you are watching, a lot of them say that.

(BTW, this is not a serious post and I do know that Seinfeld is not filmed in widescreen) but I do think it is funny that many episodes indicate that the show was "Filmed in Panavision"
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#7 of 12 OFFLINE   Roger_R

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Posted August 07 2004 - 04:25 AM

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BTW, this is not a serious post and I do know that Seinfeld is not filmed in widescreen) but I do think it is funny that many episodes indicate that the show was "Filmed in Panavision"
So Panavision-cameras that are non-widescreen are not Panavision cameras? Take a look at this site: http://panavision.com/ Sounds to me Panavision is just a firm that's renting out filming gear to studios.

#8 of 12 OFFLINE   Seth--L

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Posted August 07 2004 - 08:21 AM

but I do think it is funny that many episodes indicate that the show was "Filmed in Panavision"


Panavision makes more than just anamorphic lenses.
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#9 of 12 OFFLINE   Ravi K

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Posted August 07 2004 - 12:53 PM

Did they cut the original film to conform to the tape edits even back in the first and second season?
 

#10 of 12 OFFLINE   Jay Pennington

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Posted August 07 2004 - 01:34 PM

Ooh, that's a good question. If not, then they're going to quite an expense to have the HD masters of the appropriate raw footage conformed to the old standard def edits.

The main title supers were on video as well, and there was occasional greenscreen backgrounds for scenes in moving cars. I wonder how they're handling that.
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#11 of 12 OFFLINE   StevenA

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Posted August 08 2004 - 05:56 AM

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Panavision makes more than just anamorphic lenses.


No, WillG makes a good point. The "Filmed in Panavision" tag generally refers, at least in theatrically released films, to films shot with Panavision anamorphic lenses. Films shot with Panavision equipment but not with anamorphic lenses generally states "Filmed with Panaflex Cameras and Lenses." These phrases are not used with complete consistency, however, so there are exceptions. But historically, "Panavision" is an anamorphic process, made by a company, also called Panavision, which makes Panaflex cameras and both anamorphic and spherical lenses.

#12 of 12 OFFLINE   Jay Pennington

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Posted August 08 2004 - 08:10 AM

There is a reason why the Panavision logo incorporates different aspect ratios:

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