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#1 of 19 OFFLINE   DanRevill

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Posted July 28 2004 - 07:16 PM

These days quite a few DVDs that I've purchased are missing Chapter List sheets inside the covers. It started when I bought UHF when it came out, and more and more it's commonplace including copies of Pirates of the Carribean, Peter Pan (2003), The Spy Who Came in From the Cold and quite a few lower priced MGM discs...

I'm guessing I'm not the only one this has happened to. What gives?
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#2 of 19 OFFLINE   Kyle McKnight

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Posted July 29 2004 - 01:15 AM

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it's becoming the norm.
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#3 of 19 OFFLINE   Dave_P.

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Posted July 29 2004 - 01:24 AM

The studios have decided we'd much rather have ads then chapter inserts.

#4 of 19 OFFLINE   DanRevill

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Posted July 29 2004 - 05:20 AM

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#5 of 19 OFFLINE   Jodee

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Posted July 29 2004 - 05:41 AM

The worst was when I once sold an MGM disc on Half.com and the buyer gave me bad feedback because the insert was "missing"!

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#6 of 19 OFFLINE   Matt Czyz

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Posted July 29 2004 - 06:04 AM

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including copies of Pirates of the Carribean


Um, that came with an insert booklet.

#7 of 19 OFFLINE   Neil Joseph

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Posted July 29 2004 - 06:14 AM

I was looking at my copy of Hellboy. It includes a fair sized booklet but to this day, I have not found the chapter listing. Regarding the lack of inserts, I find this annoying and cheap.
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#8 of 19 OFFLINE   Malcolm R

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Posted July 29 2004 - 06:32 AM

The worst was when I once sold an MGM disc on Half.com and the buyer gave me bad feedback because the insert was "missing"!

Yep, I always clearly specify if an insert is included or not.
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#9 of 19 OFFLINE   AndyVX

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Posted July 29 2004 - 07:58 PM

Not having a chapter list insert doesn't bother me at all. Never had a reason to use it.
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#10 of 19 OFFLINE   StephenA

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Posted July 30 2004 - 11:31 AM

I like having chapter list inserts. It helps me a lot when I have to stop a movie for whatever and have to come back later. All I have to do is look at the listings to see where I left off if I forget the chapter number, which I tend to do a lot. In stead of having to go through each chapter section on the DVD, I just look at the listing on the insert and go right to the section where I left off. I also like the pictures and art they put on a lot of them.

#11 of 19 OFFLINE   Dick

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Posted July 30 2004 - 04:21 PM

Chapter breakdowns are not really necessary - you can view them in the "scene selection" of the DVD menu. What I do miss are the liner notes - the interesting behind-the-scenes facts and photos that MGM and other studios) included with nearly every release for a while, and many were 8 pages long. But, then, DVD retail prices were $10-15 higher in those days.

#12 of 19 ONLINE   Patrick McCart

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Posted July 30 2004 - 05:49 PM

I think that studios should either leave it empty or include something worth reading. A booklet with some essays, interviews, etc would be nice (like what Criterion, Kino, Blackhawk, and Fox do), but just to put the chapters...

#13 of 19 OFFLINE   Todd Robertson

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Posted July 31 2004 - 02:10 PM

if it's a one-sheet with only chapter stops...it's nothing more than a waste of paper for me. if they will not include a nice fold-out with info or a collectable booklet....then I prefer they leave it out. they are not fancy, but I make my own, personal and custom booklets right off my computer. I include historical facts, reveiws and any other tidbit I find essential, on a personal level.
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#14 of 19 OFFLINE   MarkHastings

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Posted August 01 2004 - 11:35 AM

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if it's a one-sheet with only chapter stops...it's nothing more than a waste of paper for me.
That's probably true for a lot of people. Why waste money and resources on something that's already on the DVD?

In fact, I actually hate them. Mainly on the "Blind-Buys" because I don't want to read a chapter title that may spoil the movie for movie...that's why I avoid reading them at all costs.

#15 of 19 OFFLINE   Al (alweho)

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Posted August 01 2004 - 08:30 PM

It sure would be nice if instead of just doing nothing they would use the insert to educate people about widescreen releases.

Even with as much as DVD has accomplished in introducing people to the concept - the studios could do more.
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#16 of 19 OFFLINE   Dave_P.

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Posted August 02 2004 - 02:19 AM

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That's probably true for a lot of people. Why waste money and resources on something that's already on the DVD?


Sure the chapters are on the DVD, but you have to:

a) stop the movie to get to the menu
b) navigate through 8 pages of submenus to get to the later chapters
c) sit through five minutes of those AWESOMELY COOL transition scenes between the menus
d) see spoilers on the thumbshots or mini motion screens

I'd much rather just glance at a chapter insert.

#17 of 19 OFFLINE   MarkHastings

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Posted August 02 2004 - 02:34 AM

Dave, you have to start the DVD no matter what, so why not start the movie and use the chapter skip to get to the chapter you want? or just scan to the point you want?

#18 of 19 OFFLINE   Steven Wesley

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Posted August 02 2004 - 04:13 AM

I think we'll see less and less in the inserts world, especially if the studios move to ThinPaks and narrower cases that don't even have room for them. A bummer, but what'cha gonna do?
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#19 of 19 OFFLINE   Joe Karlosi

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Posted August 02 2004 - 06:58 AM

I've been avoiding posting this for awhile now, but I can no longer resist. Of all the many "extras" that can be had for a DVD, the most expendable is easily the insert slip.





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