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#1 of 16 Geo

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Posted July 23 2004 - 08:29 AM

Hi,
I've heard Panasonic will be coming out with a 65" plasma display sometime in the near future but I haven't been able to locate any details or specs on this display.
Does anybody have any info they can share?
Can you imagine a 65" display hanging (mounted)on the wall,
can you say "nirvana"Posted Image

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#2 of 16 kristopher p

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Posted July 23 2004 - 08:59 AM

Can you say dark gray's instead of blacks?

I've only ever heard of one somewhere around that size and the thing was like at least $12 000. If thats what the panasonic one will be around price wise I would just buy two or three smasung dlp sets instead. Their not too small but they look great and are lighter then the older rptv's.

#3 of 16 Geo

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Posted July 23 2004 - 11:38 AM

Hard to imagine a DLP display that can equal or even come close to the PQ of a good plasma display. At least I haven't seen it.
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#4 of 16 Jesse Sharrow

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Posted July 24 2004 - 01:44 AM

I think right now. Most plasmas have a terrible picture. I think a good mitsubishi RPTV has alot better picture than a Panasonic Plasma twice its size. Only 2 plasmas I like the picture on are the Mitsubishi and the Pioneer elite. Both over $10,000!

#5 of 16 Rich H

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Posted July 25 2004 - 03:29 PM

I think right now. Most plasmas have a terrible picture.


Hi Jesse. I'd be curious if you've seen plasmas by Panasonic and Fujitsu in a proper set-up. It's hard to imagine anyone calling the image "terrible."

I have a humble 42" Panasonic ED Plasma, which can be found for $2,300. I've been a long-time audiophile/video nut, and it's the most satisfying electronics purchase I've made.It has virtually CRT-level blacks, perfect focus and geometry, all the time, gorgeous natural color, and a picture-window realism with a good source.

Here are some screen shot of a film playing on my plasma:

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(More shots, linked below my name).

To each his own, of course. Cheers,

#6 of 16 Shane Martin

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Posted July 26 2004 - 03:52 AM

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Can you say dark gray's instead of blacks?
Not on a Panasonic.
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I'd be curious if you've seen plasmas by Panasonic and Fujitsu in a proper set-up. It's hard to imagine anyone calling the image "terrible."
I'd call it less than reference but still better than any other digital display that I've seen yet. Fujitsu and Panasonic are the cream of the crop as far as I'm concerned.

#7 of 16 Geo

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Posted July 26 2004 - 04:36 AM

Nice shots Rich!

I'm looking forward to the new DLP HD2+ & xHD3 (1080P) displays due out shortly.
However I think I'm looking more forward to the Panny 65" plasma display or the like.
These new displays will probably be out around the same time frame so hopefully I'll be able to due some direct comparisons!
I really like the two DVI/HDMI digital inputs of the new Samsungs and hope that other sets will follow.

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Posted July 26 2004 - 10:02 AM

LCD is the technology with "gray" blacks, if people are going to go to technology bashing. A good plasma (Panny, Fujitsu, etc) has a better contrast ratio and better black details than the DLP sets.

And this coming from a DLP projector owner. Posted Image

But a 65" is going to cost a lot of frickin' money!
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#9 of 16 John S

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Posted July 26 2004 - 10:22 AM

No kidding on the plasma blacks, I'd rate the blacks of most Plasma's I have seen as pretty darn good. I like plasma displays alot, there is definetly something about that type of emmited light my eye finds comfortable / appealing. Way out of my price / screen size range, but the technology seems very sound to me, and I expect great things to come from plasma in general!

With every technology having it's pro's and con's, hard to imagine any entire display technology being bashed as a whole these days.

#10 of 16 Shane Martin

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Posted July 26 2004 - 01:17 PM

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With every technology having it's pro's and con's, hard to imagine any entire display technology being bashed as a whole these days
I find the bashing pretty normal because 1) it costs more than most will want to spend 2) alot of ignorance about the product in general. There are still a ton of falsehoods about Plasma out there that seem to be dispelled on a weekly basis.
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But a 65" is going to cost a lot of frickin' money!
12-15k I'd bet.

#11 of 16 Sean Moon

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Posted July 26 2004 - 03:39 PM

To me plasma is really neat on good sets, like the panasonics, but the images when they move have a kinda wet feel to them. It is getting better, but its still a lil loose looking in motion to me. The DLP sets are good, but still dont match a CRT RPTV for overall picture in my eyes.
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#12 of 16 Kenneth Harden

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Posted July 30 2004 - 05:31 PM

I tell you, the non-Elite Pioneer 50" plasma with a good video source looks freaking amazing to me. I am not a huge plasma fan (comparing it to LCD and DLP RP's), but wow, the Pioneer is spectacular, I will get my mits (not Mitsubishi) on (by on I mean look at/play with) a 50" Elite soon, and I can hardly wait!

I am kind of a digital geek, and I actually like to see jagged lines instead of smooth lines (because of the display not being perfect) - I want to see EXACTLY what is coming in on the signal, not what the TV decides to show me.

#13 of 16 John F. Palacio

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Posted July 31 2004 - 05:18 AM

Great going guys.

A member asks a very legit question about a particular product and this turns into I hate it-I love it flame fest of technology and NOBODY has a clue or an answer to the thread's question.Posted Image
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#14 of 16 John F. Palacio

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Posted July 31 2004 - 05:21 AM

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I am kind of a digital geek, and I actually like to see jagged lines instead of smooth lines (because of the display not being perfect) - I want to see EXACTLY what is coming in on the signal, not what the TV decides to show me.


You've got this backwards, Kenneth. The jagged lines are not on the original signal but rather an artifact of the display. You are NOT seeing "EXACTLY what is coming in on the signal"
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#15 of 16 Kenneth Harden

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Posted July 31 2004 - 06:15 AM

John:

I am talking about seeing pixel-per-pixel resolution, which means with graphics (like letters on a news ticker), you sometimes see the actuall outline of letters, and not a blurrier outline. Same with computer monitors, I can see the 'J' in John is made up of pixels, and not a perfectly smooth 'u' shape at the bottom of the 'J'

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Posted December 01 2004 - 09:40 AM

Hi Geo,
Back to your original question... Yes they are available. I have one ready to go to a good home. Call or e-mail me to get the specific info.

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