Geoff L
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Constant observation here:
What is with this major sub over kill that many here seem to be hooked on. I swear that the posts daily here just push people to feel as tho their missing something and turn another into a over kill Woof junky.
Basic Need:
Some clean headroom compared to ones "usual listening levels" this also keeps distorsion #'s down, yes a good thing.
Extension to a soild or near soild 20Hz in your choosen sub for HT, yes good thing.
Ability to blend well with your other speaks at the choosen crossover point if used..
On the side:
Tweaking is always involved to get the most from any sub. Placement for a rooms best overall response and extension, possibly an Eq in the toughest rooms, phasing issues, the list goes on... Trade offs sometimes have to be made, but thats subben..
A for sure:
All rooms are different so what works well in one usually dose not work the same in another.
The Rub:
But 2, 3, 4 and up good quailty subs, or a single or more Monster high output subs (insert your multi/s or Monster sub/s here), is just plain overkill "in most situatuions", I just do not get it.
I belive that many people with a good sub that meet the basic need criteria above (regardless of brand), get all "caught up" in these over kill (sub thread/discussions)... Soon they feel they just gots to have something thats Bigger/better/deeper/louder/just plain more..
In "some case", yes a bigger/deeper reaching/higher spl capable more bad ass sub/s is called for.
~{People who like/want to listen at Ref, those with large to very large rooms & or very open leaky rooms}~
BUT the "Average Room" certainly dose not need the Woofage Mania over kill I see and read here nearly daily..
I got caught up in this stuff :b for about 6-months, around a year ago or so. In the end, I never use all the woffage I have and even when I get a hair up my butt and feel like tearing/shaking the whole damn neighborhood appart, that might last a whole 10 miutes or so...!
IMO a good sub meeting the basic HT Bass requirments above is enough for most! The money spent on all this extra Woofage is really a waste at least (for me anyway).
It's NOT used enough to justify the $$$ I spent (and their DIY also). Those $$$ could have been used some where else more productive, be it what it may.
I already can hear the wheeles spinning with why one needs or have all that Woofage..
I'm all ears and would imagine other are curious too...
Insane dosen't count, Frank.
This is not meant to bash on you "IMO" nearly border line crazy multi or monster multi Woffen 135db at 20-Hz guys, JUST WHY?
Regards
Geoff
What is with this major sub over kill that many here seem to be hooked on. I swear that the posts daily here just push people to feel as tho their missing something and turn another into a over kill Woof junky.
Basic Need:
Some clean headroom compared to ones "usual listening levels" this also keeps distorsion #'s down, yes a good thing.
Extension to a soild or near soild 20Hz in your choosen sub for HT, yes good thing.
Ability to blend well with your other speaks at the choosen crossover point if used..
On the side:
Tweaking is always involved to get the most from any sub. Placement for a rooms best overall response and extension, possibly an Eq in the toughest rooms, phasing issues, the list goes on... Trade offs sometimes have to be made, but thats subben..
A for sure:
All rooms are different so what works well in one usually dose not work the same in another.
The Rub:
But 2, 3, 4 and up good quailty subs, or a single or more Monster high output subs (insert your multi/s or Monster sub/s here), is just plain overkill "in most situatuions", I just do not get it.
I belive that many people with a good sub that meet the basic need criteria above (regardless of brand), get all "caught up" in these over kill (sub thread/discussions)... Soon they feel they just gots to have something thats Bigger/better/deeper/louder/just plain more..
In "some case", yes a bigger/deeper reaching/higher spl capable more bad ass sub/s is called for.
~{People who like/want to listen at Ref, those with large to very large rooms & or very open leaky rooms}~
BUT the "Average Room" certainly dose not need the Woofage Mania over kill I see and read here nearly daily..
I got caught up in this stuff :b for about 6-months, around a year ago or so. In the end, I never use all the woffage I have and even when I get a hair up my butt and feel like tearing/shaking the whole damn neighborhood appart, that might last a whole 10 miutes or so...!
IMO a good sub meeting the basic HT Bass requirments above is enough for most! The money spent on all this extra Woofage is really a waste at least (for me anyway).
It's NOT used enough to justify the $$$ I spent (and their DIY also). Those $$$ could have been used some where else more productive, be it what it may.
I already can hear the wheeles spinning with why one needs or have all that Woofage..
I'm all ears and would imagine other are curious too...
Insane dosen't count, Frank.
This is not meant to bash on you "IMO" nearly border line crazy multi or monster multi Woffen 135db at 20-Hz guys, JUST WHY?
Regards
Geoff