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#1 of 26 OFFLINE   Stephen JJ

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Posted July 10 2004 - 07:01 AM

Can anyone confirm whether or not the "Bad Santa" DVD, the R-rated version, is the theatrical version?

I loved the film when i saw it in the theater - i thought it did a great job walking the crudeness/hilarity tightrope. But i bought the "badder santa" DVD and was very disappointed. Too much crudeness and too little comedy. So i want to get the theatrical version, if it is available.

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#2 of 26 OFFLINE   Justin Bauer

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Posted July 10 2004 - 07:07 AM

Yes, the R rated Bad santa version of the movie is the theatrical cut.

I personally loved the Badder Santa cut. I have never seen the Bad Santa DVD, only the Badder version.
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#3 of 26 OFFLINE   Stephen JJ

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Posted July 10 2004 - 10:36 AM

Justin - thanks for the info. Posted Image

#4 of 26 OFFLINE   RyanAn

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Posted July 10 2004 - 01:34 PM

Does anyone know what the exact difference is for Badder Santa, or for even Euro Trip Unrated? Are there certain sites that discuss this?

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#5 of 26 OFFLINE   Zachary Cohen

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Posted July 10 2004 - 01:44 PM

I personally disliked the film but my brother was interested in it and we couldn't find the theatrical cut anywhere.

Not even in Wal-Mart.

#6 of 26 OFFLINE   Richard Kim

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Posted July 10 2004 - 02:26 PM

These are the changes in Badder Santa that I know of (SPOILERS AHEAD):


There's an extended scene when Willie is in Florida. He steals a car and robs a rich guy's home.

When Willie is having sex in the Big and Tall Ladies dressing room it's supposedly more "graphic"

Bernie Mac's death scene has been extended. In the theatrical version, the scene ends when he's rammed and pinned by the car.


#7 of 26 OFFLINE   Frank@N

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Posted July 27 2004 - 09:40 AM

Wanted to resurrect this thread because I had some questions about these two releases...

I usually buy 'new' releases from Hollywood Video for around $10 a movie.

At this point, getting a deal on 'Badder' will be difficult because I'm guessing all rental copies will be 'Bad' only.

So...are there more deleted scenes on the 'Bad' version?

I've read that deleted scenes on the 'Badder' are only about 5 minutes total.

I was hoping that the 'Bad' version includes those deleted 5 minutes, plus the other deleted 7 minutes that appear in 'Badder'.

There's really no reason that unrated material couldn't be included as deleted scenes.

Anybody know?

#8 of 26 OFFLINE   Matt Pelham

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Posted July 27 2004 - 10:34 AM

Just FYI Frank, Blockbuster video carries the "Badder" Santa cut, so there's a possibility Hollywood does too.

There's really no reason that unrated material couldn't be included as deleted scenes.


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#9 of 26 OFFLINE   Robert Spalding

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Posted July 27 2004 - 10:43 AM

Hollywood only carries the Bad version (R rated)

#10 of 26 OFFLINE   Dax P

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Posted July 28 2004 - 05:46 AM

I only saw the 'Badder' cut so I can't comment on the seven additional minutes (although if they are what is described here- they really DON'T serve to make the film any MORE vulgar or offensive, so I don't really get the complaint of the thread-starter here), but I can say that the 'Badder' exclusive 'gag reel' is a huge nothing. Very little of it actually appeared to be what you'd think it would comprise of (outtakes)- it's more... footage from the movie (okay, we saw this) and footage from the deleted scenes elsewhere on the disc (which are on both the rated and unrated editions). Definitely no 'bonus'.

I liked the movie. Didn't 'love' it, but it was good fun. Billy Bob was great. There's a lot to like in it (great 'tone'... outwardly mean-spirited, and yet-- it DOES follow your 'Christmas movie' formula, really), but I didn't laugh as much as I thought I might. Not as much of Bernie Mac as I was prepared for by the advertising (which is not to say I was pleased or disappointed- just a little surprised).

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Posted July 28 2004 - 08:44 AM

Why are people still discussing this movie? It was awful. Discussion should have ended at the theatre after you wasted your time watching it.Posted Image
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#12 of 26 OFFLINE   Nick Sievers

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Posted July 28 2004 - 09:52 AM

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Posted Image, so films you didn't like shouldn't be discussed on this forum?
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#13 of 26 OFFLINE   Robert_eb

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Posted July 28 2004 - 10:08 AM

Why are people still discussing this movie? It was awful. Discussion should have ended at the theatre after you wasted your time watching it.


Thanks for your contribution.

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Posted July 28 2004 - 03:21 PM

I haven't ever seen the DVD version of "Bad" I can't find a version like that online anywhere, in their catalog, etc. I can find it on VHS that way, but all DVD I find anywhere, including Hollywood Rental, are "Badder"
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#15 of 26 OFFLINE   WarrenL

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Posted July 29 2004 - 01:23 AM

I saw both versions, and truthfully either version you get will be ok. I thought Badder, even with the extra footage, was on par with Bad. In other words, the extra footage didn't add to the story it just extended it by a small margin.

#16 of 26 OFFLINE   Sam Davatchi

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Posted July 29 2004 - 02:06 AM

The question is not if it adds to the story but if it is less cruel or vulgar.

#17 of 26 OFFLINE   WarrenL

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Posted July 29 2004 - 03:17 AM

Like I said said it extended the story, its a crude and vulgar movie so you get a "little" more crude and vulgar, but it doesn't tie the story together in any necessary way.

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Posted July 29 2004 - 03:46 AM

Given the level of crudeness/vulgarity already present in Bad Santa, the idea that Badder Santa is somehow a degree of magnitude "worse" is sort of laughable.

If you're offended by Badder, Bad doesn't suddenly become a Disney film.
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#19 of 26 OFFLINE   Sam Davatchi

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Posted July 29 2004 - 05:18 AM

Hey don't shoot the messenger! Posted Image

#20 of 26 OFFLINE   WarrenL

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Posted July 29 2004 - 05:38 AM

No way Posted Image! I just want folks to know what they're getting into.