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"The Dick Van Dyke Show Season 5" -- A Personal Review


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#21 of 183 OFFLINE   David Von Pein

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Posted July 07 2004 - 08:22 PM

It seems as if Carl Reiner decided to load up all the odd inconsistencies and things that don't make sense into the "Cat Burglar" episode. (Plus several more in "My Husband Is Not A Drunk".)

Just noticed 4 more to add to the plethora of oddities previously posted regarding
the "Cat Burglar" program ...............


>> The burglars are said in the episode to be "specialists", who ONLY steal paintings, silver, and TV sets. But, for some reason, they've changed their pattern at the Petries, taking only the dining set, and leaving behind the silver & TV (which BOTH were, btw, readily available to the crooks for the pilfering). We're *surely* not to assume there are TWO sets of cat burglars who just happened to strike the neighborhood in the same 5-day period, are we? Mason, your witness. Posted Image


>> A very, very silly-looking goof is when Jerry comes through the glassless window, poking his head and rifle into the Petrie bedroom. There's NO glass in the window! Seems rather odd, doesn't it? Posted Image Now are you gonna sit there and try to tell me that Robert Simpson Petrie, who wants to protect his family and is already concerned about a potential burglar in the area, is going to sit still this night for going to sleep in a bedroom where a burglar could slip in easily through a window with NO GLASS in it, that's protected only by a CURTAIN?!! Come now. The O.J. jury wouldn't even buy that logic! Posted Image

NEXT WEEK ON "UNSOLVED MYSTERIES": 'Why is there no glass in that Petrie window?'


>> How about this one Van Dyke fans -- We've got Rob & Laura being awakened by sounds from the living room, which Rob admits sound like "somebody trying to get out". So, we can naturally assume that the burglars had already been in the house before Rob got up to look. But when Rob investigates, rifle in tow, we can see that the dining set is STILL THERE! Therefore, the crooks had to RE-ENTER the house to steal the goods. Now tell me how likely it would be that neither Rob nor Laura would hear the crooks' activity in the next room, esp. given the couple's already highly-anxious state of mind after Rob nearly shoots Laura's lovely head off during his midnight romp with the .22? Highly unlikely the crooks' second attempt would go unnoticed under these stressful circumstances. Berger, your witness.


>> And how realistic is the scene the next morning when NEITHER Rob nor Laura notices the dining table missing? They walk right past the large empty space in the room multiple times and don't even notice. Highly unlikely. .... And yet, my friends, during the epilogue (or "Tag Scene" as its referred to on the Digital Versatile Disc boxed sets) to this Van Dyke episodic adventure, Rob immediately notices a missing piece of furniture (the 9-foot curved sofa that wife Laura Meeker-Meehan-Petrie has sent out to be cleaned on Rob's day off). Granted, the absence of a nine-foot couch *might* stick out a tad more like a sore thumb vs. the absence of the dining set. But the difference is negligible, IMHO.

Therefore, ladies and gentlemen of the jury -- I submit to you that this episode's writing cries out for justice! And begs to be revised in the "reality" department by Writer/Producer Carl Reiner! For, ladies & germs, isn't it Reiner himself who has said to his subsequent writing partners on numerous occasions when penning the various Van Dyke episodes: "If it couldn't happen to you (or Rob Petrie), then don't put it in the script!" ??

Thusly, Mr. Reiner himself must be found GUILTY as charged in this rare case of violating his very own "Realie" rule of episode writing!

And therefore, my friends, in this complicated case of "Reiner vs. The Cat Burglar", justice can only be served by your coming back into this Forum with a verdict of "Funny as hell; but just plain goofy in many respects". (Penalty to accused being having to consume 16 cartons of "crummy buttons" in a 17-hour period.)


But all these odd blunders still don't matter, because the episode is a classic, if for just the scene where Rob thinks the door is hooked up to the musical jewelry box. Posted Image

You know what all this means, don't you kids??

Yes .... It means I've watched this show way, way too much! And men in white coats should burst in here any moment; and rightly so. I've turned into R.P. McMurphy. Somebody fetch Nurse Ratched. Posted Image

#22 of 183 OFFLINE   Casey Trowbridg

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Posted July 08 2004 - 04:59 AM

Lord help us if David VP ever meets Carl Reiner.

David: "Carl, I want to ask you about some of the oddities in the Cat Burgler episode...like for instance, why..."

Mr. Reiner: "The judge said you must stay a hundred feet away from me at all times, and you are not allowed to ask about that episode anymore."

Na, just kidding you David my friend.

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Posted July 08 2004 - 06:04 AM

David VP:

At least you're not obsessive about it.

#24 of 183 OFFLINE   David Von Pein

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Posted July 08 2004 - 02:11 PM

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#25 of 183 OFFLINE   David Von Pein

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Posted July 08 2004 - 04:31 PM

Are you "left-eared" or "right-eared"? Posted Image

How about the fact (in "The Bottom Of Mel Cooley's Heart") Rob tells Laura he's
"left-eared" and has to have the phone put to his LEFT ear instead of his right ..... but later in that very same episode, we see him talking on the phone "right-eared"?

I, myself, am "left-eared". I never hold a phone up to my right ear; feels weird that way (I guess because I'm left-handed).

But Rob (Dick) seems to not only be multi-handed, but multi-eared as well. Posted Image

While going through the episodes, I've noticed how often everybody seems to be on the telephone. The phone plays an integral part of Carl Reiner's and the other writer's scripts.

And there's not an actor, living or dead, who can/could hold a candle to Dick Van Dyke for "one-way phone conversations". You'd swear he was talking to someone on that phone. His talents seem to be limitless.

Digressing from TDvDS for two seconds, and speaking of good "telephone actors" -- While Van Dyke is the best on the phone I've ever seen, there IS one other actor who is close -- Hugh Beaumont (of "Leave It To Beaver" fame). He, too, was excellent at producing that "glazed-over"/"staring off into the distance" look while talking on the phone.

One particularly hilarious and perfectly-done one-way phone conversation with Beaumont on the "Beaver" series has Hugh talking to wife June (but we never see June in the scene). Ward (Hugh) finds out Beaver ditched school and is at a local supermarket snacking on the store's free food samples. June frantically phones Ward at the office to go and pick up the little truant. Ward is not at all pleased. The funny phone call ends with Ward barking at June: "June, you can pick up clothes pins anytime!" Posted Image

Back to the Van Dyke Show -- I'm guessing there aren't more than a few episodes that don't feature at least one phone scene. Many have multiple scenes featuring telephone conversations -- including scenes with many of the guest stars talking on the phone -- eg: the "lab technician" talking to Sally and Robert Vaughn ("Jim Darling") talking to Australia "from a house with a mortgage" Posted Image

Off the top of my head, I can think of just one episode that doesn't have a "phone" scene (but there are probably a few more) -- "A Nice, Friendly Game Of Cards". (This probably mainly due to the fact that this whole show takes place over the course of just a single night, and there's no "office" scene at all -- which is very rare. Therefore, no "Rob to Laura" call from the office is required.) Posted Image

"A nice, friendly game of marked cards! ... Cheating! ... In the suburbs!!" Posted Image

#26 of 183 OFFLINE   Eric Paddon

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Posted July 10 2004 - 01:46 PM

Quick Dave, can you name the only season 5 episode that uses the "trip" opening? (No checking!) Posted Image

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Posted July 10 2004 - 05:40 PM

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Some people on www.sitcomsonline.com said they couldn't even get Disc 5 to load at all! Player couldn't read it. But my player loaded it, no prob. Strange.
Just so folks have a reference: Disc 5 works fine on the Pioneer 563a, I have a unit that had the firmware upgrade for some newer DVD-A titles.
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#28 of 183 OFFLINE   David Von Pein

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Posted July 11 2004 - 05:02 AM

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Quick Dave, can you name the only season 5 episode that uses the "trip" opening? (No checking!)

Dammit! No I can't. Posted Image

I don't recall coming across it yet. Although I normally begin my
episode-watching by going straight to Chapter 2, and skip the opening. (Think Dick minds me doing this? Posted Image Posted Image)

#29 of 183 OFFLINE   Eric Paddon

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Posted July 11 2004 - 06:47 AM

If you give up, the answer is (Fanfare) "Who Stole My Watch?". I have to admit I was taken aback when I saw it since I thought in Season 5 it was gone altogether (there were about 3-4 episodes in Season 4 that used it).

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Posted July 19 2004 - 04:34 AM

Getting back to those gafs and things that David brought up I went back through season 1 and 2 and watched some of my favorite episodes, and noticed a few things.

All of this stuff is really minor stuff, certainly not the kind of stuff to lose sleep over.

1. Lennie Weinrid appeared in the episode "Budy can you spare a job" as Jackie Brewster (season 1) in season 2's "The Sam Pomerantz scandals" he appeared as the same character but his name was now Danny Brewster.

2. Eleanor Audley who was probably best known as the head of the PTA, always bugging Rob to write and or direct a show, made her first appearance in the episode "Sick Boy and the Sitter" as a woman attending a party at Alan Brady's.

3. Funny thing about that party, as in the second episode produced for the show (according to ep guides.com) "The Meershatz Pipe" Rob lements that he hasn't been to Alan's since he signed his contract a year ago. Yet, we are led to believe from episode 1 that the writing staff would often get invites to entertain at the Brady home for various parties.

Just a few interesting things I noticed.

#31 of 183 OFFLINE   David Von Pein

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Posted July 19 2004 - 03:34 PM

Good catches, Casey. Posted Image

Here's one I noticed recently ..........

NitPick #110: In the episode "Hustling The Hustler", Rob tells Blackie that it was Laura who purchased this pool table for Rob ("To keep me off the streets").

OK, kids, I ask you (logically) -- Could Laura (who has no job and gets just a small allowance from Robert each week it would seem via the episode "Bank Book 6565696", in which it's revealed it has taken her quite some time to accumulate the robust sum of just $378.16 to buy Rob the "JFK400 Roadster" automobile that Rob has been "drooling over") POSSIBLY have afforded, on her own, the purchase of a pool table for her hubby? A table that, even circa 1962-1963, would have cost approximately $750-$800 (at least).

I suppose it's conceivable Laura could have saved enough for Rob's pool table AND saved up $378 to boot for the car too; but I find it unlikely.

Perry, next witness. Posted Image

(BTW--Those 2 eps. ["Bank Book" and "Hustler"] are back-to-back eps.)


Now, DvDS kids, here's a brain-buster trivia Q for y'all:

In the episodic adventure called "Very Old Shoes, Very Old Rice", Rob & Laura's wedding "witnesses" are played very nicely by Burt Mustin & Madge Blake (aka: "Mrs. Mondello" of "Leave It To Beaver"; Mustin, too, was a LITB alumni). These two old folks had witnessed many a wedding -- What number "witnessing" was Rob & Laura's ceremony for this old couple?

A free case of "Potato Poopies" and a case of "Wheatie Wow-Wows" await the person who answers correctly! Posted Image

#32 of 183 OFFLINE   David Von Pein

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Posted July 19 2004 - 03:46 PM

How about THIS cool "Van Dyke NitPick" (I must say, that I personally didn't think of this -- although I *should* have, given my NitPicks 101 class Posted Image) -------

In the very funny episode "The Night The Roof Fell In", Ritchie breaks a bottle of Rob's cowboy-style shaving lotion ("Stirrup & Saddle").

Now, this doesn't seem like a NitPick, per se. But the "official NitPick" comes into play when we ask ourselves the following question:

Why is Rob's shaving lotion and other shaving materials (including shaving cream which Ritchie has all over his face in this ep.) located in Ritchie's bathroom, instead of Rob & Laura's bathroom off of their bedroom?

I guess we're now to assume Rob gets up in the morning, brushes his teeth and takes his morning whiz in their own master bathroom -- THEN switches to Ritchie's bathroom to shave and put on cologne. LOL. Posted Image

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Posted July 19 2004 - 06:27 PM

I can never top you in nit-picks, Dave, but I can make a good second place showing. Posted Image

Ever wonder what kind of a building Rob works in? He's established as working on the 28th floor of a mid-town skyscraper, which we are led to believe is also where the Alan Brady Show broadcasts from, given that we see dancers in rehearsal wander in and out.

Yet the sign outside the office door if we freeze-frame clearly shows the names of doctors, lawyers etc. implying that this important broadcasting facility is also used by ordinary professionals, and of course in "Uhny Utz" we also learn that secretive toymakers have rented out an office too!

The leaseholder of that building clearly will rent out to anyone!

Notice also the inconsistency of where Jerry works. In early episodes he is established as having his dental office in the house, which makes sense because he's the dentist for the neighborhood, but in later episodes he is seen commuting downtown and has a dental office downtown, but if so how could he still be a New Rochelle neighborhood dentist??

For these and more exciting and spellbinding questions that have no answers, tune in to more installments of the Van Pein-Paddon Nitpick Report! Posted Image

#34 of 183 OFFLINE   David Von Pein

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Posted July 20 2004 - 09:54 AM

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...In "Uhny U(f)tz" we also learn that secretive toymakers have rented out an office too!

The leaseholder of that building clearly will rent out to anyone!

True, it seems, very true.
(BTW, you left the "F" out of "Uftz". Shame!)
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For these and more exciting and spellbinding questions that have no answers, tune in to more installments of the Van Pein-Paddon Nitpick Report!
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(I hate to "nit-pick", but that's "Von Pein", not "Van". Posted Image)

#35 of 183 OFFLINE   David Von Pein

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Posted July 20 2004 - 10:03 AM

Has anyone been able to prove me wrong regarding the "1966 Persky/Denoff Emmy Clip" that I have said is ONLY on the "Best Of Volume 1" disc?

Anybody been able to find that particular 1966 Emmy clip on ANY of the 5 seasonal sets as yet? I have not located that clip other than on the Best-Of volume.

If anyone finds it, please post. (So I can eat the proper serving of crow. Posted Image)

I'd guess, however, since the clip in question is a color clip from the show's last season (Season 5) -- that it would appear within the fifth-season boxed collection (if it's anywhere within any seasonal set).

And just remember, kids -- If you ever feel the need to blab about your best friend being bald behind his back, don't do it by the water cooler, telling just a few
people. No ...........

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#36 of 183 OFFLINE   Eric Paddon

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Posted July 20 2004 - 12:02 PM

Ah yes, with "Utz" I was thinking of a potato chip brand name. Posted Image But I have no excuse for your name. You are free to do more than nitpick over *that* one! Posted Image

Here's another nitpick. In "What's In A Middle Name?" Rob's father Sam Petrie is championing the virtues of a short, simple first name like his own. Whatever got him to agree to naming his second son, "Stacey"? Posted Image

#37 of 183 OFFLINE   David Von Pein

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Posted July 20 2004 - 03:39 PM

Yeah, what about that?? (Well, "Stacey" IS only two syllables; not overly long. For that matter, "Rob" actually = "Robert", also a two-syllable birth name.) Posted Image

Nobody knows (or cares probably Posted Image) what the answer is to my brain-teasing Q above, eh? (Re. Burt Mustin, et al.)

The prize is getting stale. Posted Image

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Posted July 20 2004 - 05:33 PM

I know how to claim the prize, but I have to get myself in the mood for watching both episodes in a row! Posted Image

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Posted July 20 2004 - 06:27 PM

815!!!!

But you may keep those (ahem) "potato poopies" (that name alone makes me sick!) for yourself. Posted Image

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Posted July 20 2004 - 06:39 PM

Since I just saw the episode in the past couple of days I want to say...

E D W A R D!

I want to comment on my favorite character of Buddy if I can. I'm drawn to that character, if I haven't completely stolen some of his one liners, I've said many a thing that sounds like something you'd hear out of his mouth.

His remarking about being put in the freezer when he dies cracks me up. Then when Sally threatens to kill him if he makes one more joke he says...
"Please, not this week we're defrosting."

In everyone's favorite episode about a certain Christmas toy his insult for Mel really works when he's so tired he just says: "Mel, you are really bald."

Buddy is the TV character that has most influenced me as a person, at least when it comes to the kinds of jokes I tell...and that's better than the second character that has had a profound mark on my life...Homer Simpson.

Mr. Amsterdam really was a genius and the human joke machine.


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