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'67 Spider-Man, initial thoughts


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#1 of 114 Gord Lacey

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Posted June 19 2004 - 11:42 AM

Well, I just sat down to watch some episodes from the upcoming Spider-Man show, and I'm VERY impressed.

The colors are bright and beautiful. The picture contains some slighty grain/noise in a few places, but it's very, very nice-looking. I'd say it's equal to, or better than, the Loony Tunes collection released last year.

Now, the thing people want to know: is it edited?
One of my friends purchased "The Best of Marvel Comics" - a BETA tape produced in 1982 - and transferred it to DVD so he could play it. I borrowed the DVD from him because it contained "Diamon Dust" on it. I have two players, so I set it up and put them in picture-in-picture so I could watch them both at the same time. Everything was intact, and the DVD was WAY better than the BETA tape. I also flipped back and forth between the two audio sources, and every music cue was intact, and from what I could tell all the sound effects were the same. So, to answer the question...if that episode is representative of the entire set, then it's not edited at all.

I'm recording an episode off digital cable in 20 minutes, so I'll try and do another comparison and report if there are any problems.

I'm VERY impressed with the quality of the set, though I've only watched 3 episodes. Oh, in case anyone was wondering, there aren't any chapters in the episodes Posted Image Giess it can't be perfect.

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#2 of 114 Paul_Scott

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Posted June 19 2004 - 11:47 AM

Hey Good to hear the show is intact!

i've been wondering about this one- its a little sttep and i have to wonder if the show is any more compelling than just for its inherent nostalgia factor.
i don't think i've seen any of these since the late 70s so it would be a kick to see them again...but enough of a kick to merit the $50+ price tag?

#3 of 114 Lou Sytsma

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Posted June 19 2004 - 12:22 PM

I agree Paul - beyond the theme song the plain truth is this series was cheaply produced and does not bear up to being watched again.
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#4 of 114 Gord Lacey

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Posted June 19 2004 - 12:31 PM

That's exactly what I thought until I started watching the set. It's not as cheesy as I remember it being.

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Posted June 19 2004 - 12:41 PM

so I guess we can put to rest any of the worries or questions some folks had about Aerosmith or somebody else re-doing that GREAT theme song!

We are just over a week away from the release!!!

I've been looking forward to this one for awhile. The last time I recall seeing it was as a second generation re-run in the mid to late 1970's.

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Posted June 19 2004 - 01:23 PM

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I agree Paul - beyond the theme song the plain truth is this series was cheaply produced and does not bear up to being watched again.


maybe not to you, i will be watching this many times over.

gord what digital cable channel is showing this, uh show?

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Posted June 19 2004 - 01:33 PM

A Canadian channel, no doubt! Posted Image
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Posted June 19 2004 - 02:53 PM

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maybe not to you, i will be watching this many times over.


Errr I always speak for myself. As for you, enjoy and knock yourself out!Posted Image
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#9 of 114 Gord Lacey

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Posted June 19 2004 - 03:08 PM

Yeah, Dave is right. It's Teletoon in Canada.

The quality of the broadcast is nothing compared to the DVD.

Does anyone want to see some quick commparison shots between the DVD and the BETA episode I have?

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Posted June 19 2004 - 03:27 PM

I'd like to see the comparisons.

#11 of 114 Gord Lacey

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Posted June 19 2004 - 07:06 PM

Okay, the top pictures are from a BETA tape (The Best of Marvel Comics) and the bottom pictures are from the DVD.

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Quite the difference, huh?

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Posted June 19 2004 - 07:42 PM

^^ That's looks great!!! And now that it looks like the audio has been left alone I can truly look forward to getting this set!!

Gord just a few questions - You said there aren't any chapter stops. Does this mean for the 2 story episodes the only way to watch the second story is to fast forward through the opening story first? Or do the separate stories have their own access points?

Also I assume there are no special features? (beyond the written commentary by Stan Lee)

And... Oh yeah can you post some shots of the Menu screens or describe them at least) Thanx.

#13 of 114 Gord Lacey

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Posted June 20 2004 - 03:28 AM

Good question...I just checked and there are chapters for the 2-part episodes, and you can select them from the scene selection screen.

The menu has Spider-Man swinging on his web with blobby things moving in the background, and some instrumental music from the show playing.

I haven't fully checked out the set, but there doesn't appear to be any other extras. Oh, there are trailers that play in disc 1, but I don't think those count Posted Image

Fans of the show will see these episodes like they've never been seen before. I get excited when companies do such an awesome job restoring their properties like this.

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Posted June 20 2004 - 10:53 AM

I hope that episodes of the same era Fantastic Four make it to DVD as well. My recollection is that they featured slightly better animation and actually mirrored some storylines from the comic book. Did the FF come from H-B studios? Oh, yeah, and while we're at it, how about releasing the original Marvel Super-Heroes show, with Captain America, Hulk, etc. This is the program that pioneered "xeroxography" as an animation form. Posted Image

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Posted June 21 2004 - 01:06 AM

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Oh, yeah, and while we're at it, how about releasing the original Marvel Super-Heroes show, with Captain America, Hulk, etc. This is the program that pioneered "xeroxography" as an animation form.

Yeah, that show's "animation" was really unintentionally hilarious at times. I bought a budget Captain America VHS tape about 10 years ago ("Origin of the Red Skull") and my buddies and I laughed our butts off!

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Posted June 21 2004 - 02:41 AM

I too will be buying this set. As stated in another thread, I have about threes dozen of these episodes uncut and in the original form. I will run comparisons my self. However, based on what I've seen here, it looks promising. I'm also happy they retained the 'in color" introduction.

I too have that Captain America tape. While the animation is quite limited, the artwork is quite good. I could swear they must have used Jack Kirby for the artist.

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Posted June 21 2004 - 02:59 AM

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Posted June 21 2004 - 05:04 AM

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I too have that Captain America tape. While the animation is quite limited, the artwork is quite good. I could swear they must have used Jack Kirby for the artist.

Gary, that is exactly right. In most instances, these cartoons were adapted by taking the original comic book panel art and then "manipulating" pieces within each panel (like an arm, for example) to create an animated effect. Thus was born "xeroxography." (Animation that's right up there with the mouths in Clutch Cargo!) Actually, I was always a fan of these cartoons since they closely mirrored their pulp brethren.

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Posted June 21 2004 - 05:10 AM

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I hope that episodes of the same era Fantastic Four make it to DVD as well. My recollection is that they featured slightly better animation and actually mirrored some storylines from the comic book. Did the FF come from H-B studios?



Fantastic Four was definitely from H-B as well ... I made a VCD set from the Cartoon Network re-airing a couple of years ago (they used to show it all the time .... but haven't seen it on in well over a year now). From what I recall, the image quality actually was pretty good (better than cable reruns I've seen of the '67 Spidey show ....) Either way, can't wait to get my hands on the Spider-Man DVDs ....

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Posted June 19 2004 - 11:42 AM

Well, I just sat down to watch some episodes from the upcoming Spider-Man show, and I'm VERY impressed.

The colors are bright and beautiful. The picture contains some slighty grain/noise in a few places, but it's very, very nice-looking. I'd say it's equal to, or better than, the Loony Tunes collection released last year.

Now, the thing people want to know: is it edited?
One of my friends purchased "The Best of Marvel Comics" - a BETA tape produced in 1982 - and transferred it to DVD so he could play it. I borrowed the DVD from him because it contained "Diamon Dust" on it. I have two players, so I set it up and put them in picture-in-picture so I could watch them both at the same time. Everything was intact, and the DVD was WAY better than the BETA tape. I also flipped back and forth between the two audio sources, and every music cue was intact, and from what I could tell all the sound effects were the same. So, to answer the question...if that episode is representative of the entire set, then it's not edited at all.

I'm recording an episode off digital cable in 20 minutes, so I'll try and do another comparison and report if there are any problems.

I'm VERY impressed with the quality of the set, though I've only watched 3 episodes. Oh, in case anyone was wondering, there aren't any chapters in the episodes Posted Image Giess it can't be perfect.

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