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Merged Thread: Darby O'Gill & The Little People OAR?


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#1 of 61 OFFLINE   Sean Campbell

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Posted April 03 2004 - 04:32 AM

Darby O'Gill & The Little People has just been released in R2 - but with an aspect ratio of 1:33:1. I know this movie was made in the late 50s, so can anyone tell me if it's the correct OAR or not? I don't want to buy it if it's cropped
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#2 of 61 OFFLINE   Brandon Conway

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Posted April 03 2004 - 06:01 AM

imdb.com says it's 1.75:1

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#3 of 61 OFFLINE   TedD

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Posted April 03 2004 - 10:02 AM

The prints were hard matted to 1.75:1.

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#4 of 61 OFFLINE   Charlie O.

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Posted April 04 2004 - 10:50 AM

So 1:33:1 is open matte then correct?

#5 of 61 OFFLINE   TedD

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Posted April 04 2004 - 11:01 AM

Probably not. Depends on where the mattes were applied, ie, in the camera, at the interpositive, at the internegative, at the release print, etc. and what stage of the chain the telecine transfer used for the DVD originated from.

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#6 of 61 OFFLINE   Jeff Jacobson

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Posted April 04 2004 - 06:08 PM

So 1:33:1 is open matte then correct?

The prints were hard matted to 1.75:1.


If the prints were hard matted to 1.75:1, that means it's not open matte, doesn't it?

#7 of 61 OFFLINE   Joshua Clinard

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Posted April 05 2004 - 03:56 AM

Yes, if the prints are hard matted, it won't be open matte. It would have to be pan & scanned.

#8 of 61 OFFLINE   Paul Linfesty

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Posted April 05 2004 - 04:43 PM

Yes, if the prints are hard matted, it won't be open matte. It would have to be pan & scanned.


Not necessarily. If the negative is full-frame then any new prints (or internegatives and interpositives) could be struck in open-matte. If this is the case, the original hard-matted theatrical prints would be irrelevant. Unless of course they just pull out an old theatrical print to transfer.

#9 of 61 OFFLINE   Mark_Wilson

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Posted April 06 2004 - 04:02 AM

I've got the Aussie disc and there seems to be a lot of head room.

#10 of 61 OFFLINE   John Morgan

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Posted April 06 2004 - 11:33 AM

I hope the right soundtrack is attached. I have the laser, which is the original, but I guess some voices were redubbed for a later release and this is what made it to video tape. Just having the laser, I never heard this other version.

#11 of 61 OFFLINE   Joe Caps

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Posted April 06 2004 - 12:28 PM

The soundtrack was redubbed into easier english for americans on a reissue. Both verwsions have been used for home video.
Easiest way to tell the difference - when Darby is underground in the kingdomof the little people, he is starting to play them some music. He does a countdown- 1,2,3,4, in the rudubbed version, In the original, he does the countdown in Gallic.

#12 of 61 OFFLINE   Ken_McAlinden

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Posted April 07 2004 - 02:37 AM

In related Disney news, "Son of Flubber" was released 4:3 this week. Posted Image At least the packaging goes to great lengths to point out that it is in the original black and white.

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Posted June 05 2004 - 04:12 AM

http://www.ultimated....pic.php?t=3994

It's official - Darby O'Gill is MAR. I bet they're using the same old transfer.
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#14 of 61 OFFLINE   Kajs

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Posted June 05 2004 - 05:51 AM

As long as they include the complete “I Captured The King Of The Leprechauns” I will be happy. I figured it would be skipped because this was another cheap release.

#15 of 61 OFFLINE   Brian Kidd

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Posted June 05 2004 - 09:56 AM

That's a damned shame. This is one of my favorite Disney films. Sigh.

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Posted June 05 2004 - 02:05 PM

Open matte is acceptable to me, for I can create my own matte and have the proper OAR. What isn't acceptable is pan and scan, where there is no way to recreate the proper aspect ratio.
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#17 of 61 OFFLINE   Brian Fineberg

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Posted June 07 2004 - 10:00 AM

It is coming out on August 24th and will be presented in 1.85:1
widescreen. this was always one of my favorite movies growing up except the bansheeni sp? scared the bejesus out of me!!

I am in as soon as I can!!


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#18 of 61 OFFLINE   george kaplan

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Posted June 07 2004 - 10:13 AM

Where did you hear this? So far all the reports have been that this is going to be 1.33:1 (although unclear whether or not it's pan & scan or open matte).
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#19 of 61 OFFLINE   Dick

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Posted June 07 2004 - 05:47 PM

Yes, Brian, I would like to know from where you learned this. Doesn't sound right.

#20 of 61 OFFLINE   LukeB

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Posted June 07 2004 - 11:35 PM

I would believe Disney's press release:

http://www.ultimated....pic.php?t=3994