Merged Thread: Darby O'Gill & The Little People OAR? (1 Viewer)

Sean Campbell · Apr 3, 2004

Darby O'Gill & The Little People has just been released in R2 - but with an aspect ratio of 1:33:1. I know this movie was made in the late 50s, so can anyone tell me if it's the correct OAR or not? I don't want to buy it if it's cropped
http://www.sendit.com/video/item/7000000088374

Brandon Conway · Apr 3, 2004

imdb.com says it's 1.75:1

TedD · Apr 3, 2004

The prints were hard matted to 1.75:1.

Ted

Charlie O. · Apr 4, 2004

So 1:33:1 is open matte then correct?

TedD · Apr 4, 2004

Probably not. Depends on where the mattes were applied, ie, in the camera, at the interpositive, at the internegative, at the release print, etc. and what stage of the chain the telecine transfer used for the DVD originated from.

Ted

Jeff Jacobson · Apr 4, 2004

If the prints were hard matted to 1.75:1, that means it's not open matte, doesn't it?

Joshua Clinard · Apr 5, 2004

Yes, if the prints are hard matted, it won't be open matte. It would have to be pan & scanned.

Paul Linfesty · Apr 5, 2004

Not necessarily. If the negative is full-frame then any new prints (or internegatives and interpositives) could be struck in open-matte. If this is the case, the original hard-matted theatrical prints would be irrelevant. Unless of course they just pull out an old theatrical print to transfer.

Mark_Wilson · Apr 6, 2004

I've got the Aussie disc and there seems to be a lot of head room.

John Morgan · Apr 6, 2004

I hope the right soundtrack is attached. I have the laser, which is the original, but I guess some voices were redubbed for a later release and this is what made it to video tape. Just having the laser, I never heard this other version.

Joe Caps · Apr 6, 2004

The soundtrack was redubbed into easier english for americans on a reissue. Both verwsions have been used for home video.
Easiest way to tell the difference - when Darby is underground in the kingdomof the little people, he is starting to play them some music. He does a countdown- 1,2,3,4, in the rudubbed version, In the original, he does the countdown in Gallic.

Ken_McAlinden · Apr 7, 2004

In related Disney news, "Son of Flubber" was released 4:3 this week. :frowning: At least the packaging goes to great lengths to point out that it is in the original black and white.

Regards,

streeter · Jun 5, 2004

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/...pic.php?t=3994

It's official - Darby O'Gill is MAR. I bet they're using the same old transfer.

Kajs · Jun 5, 2004

As long as they include the complete “I Captured The King Of The Leprechauns” I will be happy. I figured it would be skipped because this was another cheap release.

Brian Kidd · Jun 5, 2004

That's a damned shame. This is one of my favorite Disney films. Sigh.

2006 is a long time to wait for Eisner to retire.

Rodney · Jun 5, 2004

Open matte is acceptable to me, for I can create my own matte and have the proper OAR. What isn't acceptable is pan and scan, where there is no way to recreate the proper aspect ratio.

Brian Fineberg · Jun 7, 2004

It is coming out on August 24th and will be presented in 1.85:1
widescreen. this was always one of my favorite movies growing up except the bansheeni sp? scared the bejesus out of me!!

I am in as soon as I can!!

Brian

george kaplan · Jun 7, 2004

Where did you hear this? So far all the reports have been that this is going to be 1.33:1 (although unclear whether or not it's pan & scan or open matte).

Dick · Jun 7, 2004

Yes, Brian, I would like to know from where you learned this. Doesn't sound right.

LukeB · Jun 8, 2004

I would believe Disney's press release:

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/...pic.php?t=3994

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