Posted April 01 2004 - 02:57 AM
Lee et al.
| . . . and SACD becomes the MD of the hi rez audio era (I think only Sony makes MD hardware, yes?) . . . |
| Not a good analogy since SACD has far more hardware support (some 63+ players available from dozens of companies) and audiophiles are a different type (more loyal) of customer than MD fans...For instance, many audiophiles will continue to support SACD due to its title selection on jazz and classical IMHO. |
Well, in line with operating assumption/premise #1 in your original post ("Hirez remains a niche among serious music fans and audiophiles and home theater fans and early adopters, ie. it does not widen to a broad audience of citizens"), let's set aside whether we'd like to see SACD grow beyond the audiophile market (and perhaps experience similar 'dumbing down' as we've seen with DVD-V as it has gone full bore mainstream).
This is a good point, Lee, (and although I'm focusing on hardware my analogy is further problematized by the fact that there are of course many, many other labels releasing SACD software than just Sony, whereas pre-recorded MDs are largely if not exclusively a Columbia/Epic affair). But although the analogy may be flawed, I don't think the/my issue is and my issue remains with a) the paucity of universal players (as opposed to the number of manufacturers offering dedicated SACD players); and b) the price of these unis.
I know you read it already Lee, but for those who haven't seen my comments in Rachael's "Why DVD-A and SA-CD cannot succeed" thread
, I said the following about the chart in the February/March 2004 Sound & Vision
listing all of the universal players currently on the market: "Interesting, to me at least, to note that, of the 21 universal models featured, only 6 list at or below $1,000. Average list price is $3,307. And we're now several years deep into these formats."
Of course we all know you are going to stick with hi rez in general and SACD in particular, Lee. But your thread asks if others are going to, and this is an issue for me and I think SACD in general: as we have seen in the past, Sony continues to problematize the future of some of their wonderful inventions by treating them like proprietary, self-sustaining fiefdoms. Problem is, they don't have enough market share to behave like Microsoft.
I'm sure at least part of your position, Lee, will be that many audiophiles will be willing to buy and keep a stand alone SACD player regardless of what happens with hi def DVD. Part of my point herein is that operating premise/assumption #4 in your thread-starting post ("Hardware players and servicing remains in place") is a complicated, significant one and it has direct bearing on my ability to manifest my interest in SACD in my rig despite possible practical issues WRT cost, availability, service and repair of hardware. Given Sony's current lackluster hardware and software support at the consumer level, I think Rachael appropriately turns the issue on its head in asking, 'will hi rez stick with me?' Its another problematic analogy, but Pio was a financial stakeholder in LD, and even they abandoned the format. This made it very difficult for LD afficionados (who, for instance, want to hang onto to LDs of movies with more supplements than their DVD counterparts often due to rights/licensing issues) to maintain/service their LD players and sent people who wanted to buy a player scurrying to ebay.
| Let's assume that if BluRay becomes the HD-DVD standard, those players will include SACD functionality because of BluRay's Sony and Phillips backing. Let's also assume that if AOD becomes the HD-DVD standard, those players will include DVD-A functionality because of AOD's Tosh et al./DVD Forum backing. |