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#1 of 24 OFFLINE   Jason Perez

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Posted March 25 2004 - 02:05 AM

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The Alamo






Studio: MGM
Year: 1960
Rated: Not Rated
Film Length: 162 minutes
Aspect Ratio: 16x9 Enhanced Widescreen (2.35:1)
Subtitles: French, and Spanish
Audio: English – Dolby Digital 5.1; French – Stereo Surround; Spanish - Monaural





Re-Release Date:
April 6th, 2004





The battle for the Alamo, a crumbling adobe mission in Texas, is a legendary event in American history. In this battle, a group of 185 brave souls, who supported the foundation of a Texan republic, fought an un-winnable battle against Generalissimo Santa Anna’s (Ruben Padilla) massive Mexican force of seven thousand strong. Commanded by Colonels Davy Crockett (John Wayne), William Travis (Laurence Harvey), and Jim Bowie (Richard Widmark), the group overcame internal bickering and defiantly fought Santa Anna’s troops to the last, even when it became clear reinforcements would not arrive and death was certain. The ultimate sacrifice made by these patriots was not in vain, however, as it played an important role in freeing Texas from Mexican rule.

To be a little more specific, this epic battle took place in 1836, when Texas was still a territory of Mexico. At the time, the push to declare Texas a republic, free from the oppressive Mexican rule, was being made. As one might imagine, there were several different views on how to bring the desired result about, and these contrasting viewpoints were put on display in this film. For instance, Colonel Travis was in favor of delaying the heretofore rapid advance of the Mexican army by holding out inside “the Alamo”, until reinforcements arrived.

Conversely, co-commander Bowie had his own battle plan, and pointed to the success he and his men had against Mexican troops by employing a stealthy hit-and-run strategy. Ultimately, as history tells us, these freedom fighters ended up fighting a battle that was lost before it had begun from inside the Alamo. Of course, before the fighting began, Davy Crockett and his troops arrived, and Colonel Travis was quick to enlist their aid, in hopes that additional support would allow group to hold out until reinforcement troops arrive. Unfortunately, these reinforcements would never come, but the selflessness of these individuals would make them all heroes, and eventually turn the tide against Santa Anna’s army.

Now, at this point in the review I ask the following rhetorical question: What man would have been better suited to bring this epic tale to the big screen than the iconic John Wayne, for whom getting this story on film was also a personal mission? Say what you will about Wayne’s acting ability, but the man’s huge on-screen presence and likeability made him one of Hollywood’s brightest and most bankable stars for over thirty years.

Apparently, “The Duke” had wanted to make this epic tale into a film for over a decade, but Republic Pictures wanted to do the film on a smaller scale, and with an established director (not John Wayne) at the helm. Several other studios were also interested, but these entities also wanted someone else to direct. Eventually, after long years spent in developing the motion picture, and several concessions, Wayne was able to reach an agreement with United Artists, and the picture was on its way to being made.

The production was not without personal risk for Mr. Wayne, though, as he was required to finance a good portion of it himself. Although he received funding by United Artists, and several Texas businessmen, Wayne had to secure the remainder by taking out second mortgages on several of his homes, and using his cars and yacht as collateral on other loans!

The level of detail in The Alamo is also admirable, as replicas of the Alamo, and other structures from “old San Antonio”, were erected from scratch on an immense location just north of Bracketville, Texas over a two-year period. Most impressively, these structures were not merely facades, but fully functional buildings, which have since been used on other productions. For the production, an airstrip and 14 miles of roads were built! Fortunately, John Wayne’s big gamble paid off, as the film went on to be nominated for seven Academy Awards®, including Best Picture

In terms of the caliber of acting in the film, John Wayne is as likeable as ever, and the actors playing supporting characters turned in solid performances as well. Also, as previously mentioned, the film’s extremely high production values are evident throughout, from the fabulous cinematography; to the superb score by Dimitri Tiomkin; to the sheer scope of the production. In particular, the depiction of the Mexican army marching on the Alamo is a sight to see, featuring nearly 7,000 extras, over 1,500 horses, 8,000 firearms, and 60 cannons!

As might be expected, The Alamo is most at home when battle is being waged, and the action sequences are very well thought out and feature top-notch stunt-work. Although Wayne has been criticized for the way he directed scenes without action, his knack for exciting an audience during action sequences pays big dividends here. He was even thoughtful enough to film over-the-top death scenes for each principal character (his own included)! Then again, I suppose it did not hurt to have acclaimed director John Ford supervising the second-unit shots during the action sequences.

Of course, the film is not without flaws, but given The Duke’s inexperience as a director (The Alamo was his directorial debut), I suppose that things could have been much, much worse. Still, I am inclined to agree with those who question his ability to direct sequences without action in them. Now that I have seen this movie several times, it is more apparent to me that there are a few spots where things really slow down, and the picture really “feels” its length. In addition, some of the dialogue is a bit heavy-handed, and sounded almost as though the characters are speaking to the viewer from behind a pulpit.

These relatively minor quibbles aside though, The Alamo is a fairly well-crafted film that treats a remarkable moment in American history with the care and respect it so richly deserves. Though it is a subtle point, I think Wayne deserves some credit for refraining from portraying the Mexican people as villains. Instead, their honor (from a neutral viewpoint) is preserved, as evidenced by the behavior of their fighting men in the film. And though I cannot bring myself to dub this film a true masterpiece, it is entertaining and informative enough to deserve a place in the DVD collections of history buffs or Western fans (many actors who frequently appeared in Westerns star in The Alamo).





SO, HOW DOES IT LOOK?
John Wayne’s The Alamo was originally filmed in Todd-AO, a technology capable of rendering deep, razor-sharp, and lustrously colored images. Presented in anamorphic widescreen (2.35:1) by MGM, this transfer stays true to the spectacular imagery that resulted from the Todd-AO process, and looks much better than I remember it appearing on Laserdisc. Yes, this is one of the small number of films I have seen on Laserdisc!

To be more descriptive, while the image contains moderate amounts of grain and minor print flaws, the film looks a lot cleaner than I would have expected it to. Colors are generally well drawn, if a little flat, but flesh tones appear to lean slightly towards brown in a few scenes. Aside from this, some very minor edge enhancement haloing, and a few moiré errors, things really did look quite good overall.

In particular, black levels were deep and true throughout the film, leading to excellent shadow delineation. While I am on the subject, night shots contain plenty of detail and sharp edges, so whatever is happening onscreen is always readily apparent. Most importantly, the film appears to be free of ugly compression artifacts. Therefore, all things considered, the transfer treats the film very kindly. For a 44-year old, The Alamo is not looking too shabby!

NOTE: The version of the film being released on this DVD is the light and trim 162-minute cut, not the so-called “Roadshow Version”, which runs for a butt-numbing 192-minutes!




WHAT IS THAT NOISE?
While The Alamo’s Dolby Digital 5.1 audio track is nice, it does contain a couple of minor annoyances that keep it from being great. Starting with the positive, frequency response is nice and even, and the score sounds absolutely fantastic. Strings, horns, and even the accordion are all rendered very precisely across the front of the soundstage, which is where most of the action is. I must point out, however, that the score does tend to overshadow sound effects and dialogue (to a lesser degree) during some of the battle sequences.

Now, this is a nearly three-hour movie, with oodles of dialogue, so how does that sound? Well, when rooted in the center channel, it actually sounds very pleasant, and more “full-bodied” than that from most films this age. On the other hand, dialogue tends to become slightly muddy during sequences where it is competing for audio space with effects and music.

In terms of rear usage, you will probably not be surprised when I tell you that there is very, very little. In fact, you might forget you have rear speakers at all for most of the film. Really, aside from a couple instances of surround use during the battle scenes, which reveal their up-mixed nature, there is only a slight bleeding of the score into the listening space. Though there are notable exceptions, “artificially created” surround channel information generally does not sound very good, so I have no problem with the limited amount of rear use in this film. In similar fashion, the subwoofer is largely silent, though it provides modest support for the gunshots and cannon-fire during the battle sequences.

Given the age of the source material, and the fact that it was remixed, this track is no redheaded stepchild! As far as I am concerned, The Alamo will probably sounds better on DVD than it ever did on other formats!




EXTRAS, EXTRAS!!!


John Wayne’s The Alamo
This long (40-minutes) documentary takes a retrospective look at the process of creating The Alamo. Through interviews with members of the cast and crew, the documentary celebrates John Wayne for making the effort to get this film made with a minimum of compromises to his original vision. To its credit though, the documentary also criticizes some of the choices he made as the film’s director. For instance, “The Duke’s” ability to maximize the impact of dramatic sequences is called into question. Personally, I find this sort of honesty, especially in the movie business, to be refreshing!

Again, since The Alamo is one of the few films I have seen on Laserdisc, I know that this documentary was originally available on the Laserdisc “Roadshow Version” of the film. If you are interested in knowing which version I prefer, it is this 162-minute cut, which I believe offers better pacing, and less superfluous character development.

Interestingly, despite the three different incarnations of this film (theatrical cut, the 162-minute cut, and 192-minute “Roadshow” cut) there is not so much as a mention of why the film was trimmed so substantially for its theatrical release. I suppose it is not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things, but considering the superhuman effort made to preserve The Alamo’s artistic integrity, it would have been nice to get “an official” reason for the cuts.

On the whole, I have to say that this documentary is a nice supplement to the film, since it provides a great deal of insight into the production, and also touches on the historical event it is based on.


Theatrical Trailer
The original theatrical trailer for The Alamo is included.


PACKAGING:
This DVD is essentially a re-release timed to coincide with the theatrical debut of its remake starring Dennis Quaid and Billy Bob Thornton. However, it does feature new cover art, which I happen to think is a lot more appealing and appropriate than the old cover with Davy Crockett in a coonskin cap. There is also a four-page insert, which contains the old cover art, 2 pages of facts on the production, and a chapter listing.



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THE LAST WORD
Though John Wayne’s rendition of The Alamo does drag a bit in spots, its respectful treatment of this historic event would make it a nice addition to the DVD collection of those interested in historical pieces or westerns. In terms of presentation, The Alamo looks and sounds just fine, and though the documentary is the only extra of any substance, it should give fans a deeper understanding of everything it took to get this film made.

It must be noted, however, that this DVD re-release, timed to street just prior to the theatrical release of its remake (starring Dennis Quaid and Billy Bob Thornton), does not contain anything that the previous version did not (except for new cover art)! As such, if you already own it, you are good! Recommended (but only if you do not already own it)!!!


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Posted March 25 2004 - 02:35 AM

thanks for the review. If the remake that comes out shortly and does make a kiling at the BO, would this be of help in getting the Roadshow version out on dvd ?

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#3 of 24 OFFLINE   Stephen_J_H

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Posted March 25 2004 - 11:41 AM

I doubt it. RAH has been trying for years to get MGM to let him restore both The Alamo and IAMMMMW, with little success.
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Posted March 25 2004 - 11:48 AM

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If the remake that comes out shortly and does make a kiling at the BO, would this be of help in getting the Roadshow version out on dvd ?

If current buzz is anything to go on with the new version, it is going to bomb big time.
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#5 of 24 OFFLINE   Robert Harris

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Posted March 25 2004 - 11:49 PM

Jason Perez wrote:

"NOTE: The version of the film being released on this DVD is the light and trim 162-minute cut, not the so-called “Roadshow Version”, which runs for a butt-numbing 192-minutes!"

Samuel Goldwyn, when asked how long a film should be replied:

"As long as its good."

Also, the 192 minute cut which Mr. Wayne delivered was not a "so-called" Roadshow version.

It was the Roadshow Version...

Which was cut for only one reason.

Theatre management was complaining to UA that buses in medium sized communities were making their last trips out of town before the final show ended, stranding many patrons in a period during which not everyone had a car.

A specific request went out for a 30 minute cut, which was performed by the editor in league with Michael Wayne, neither of whom believed that the original negative and all protection elements were being cut and junked.

There was never an intent to do an "archival" re-cut of the film.

Mr. Wayne was in Africa during the period working on Hatari!

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#6 of 24 OFFLINE   Gordon McMurphy

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Posted March 26 2004 - 12:56 AM

Any chance that MGM might sanction a restoration in the near future, Robert?

What is the current state of the O-neg?

How was the video-master made for the 192-minute Laserdisc? Why can't the 192-minute version be transfered now?


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Posted March 26 2004 - 03:31 AM

Thanks Jason for your review. I noticed that you have stated that there is English subtitles for this re-release. I know the the previous release has not English subtitles, and that's why I didn't buy it. Being Chinese living in Hong Kong I need the English subtitles to help me understand everything. I checked Amazon but it didn't state clearly whether it's with English subtitles or not.

As you have mentioned that this re-release does not contain anything the previous release did not, I would appreciate if you could re-confirm that this re-release is really with English subtiles. Thanks a lot.

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Posted March 26 2004 - 04:28 AM

Alfred Tong,

Sorry buddy...no English subtitles! Posted Image

I apologize for failing to notice I typed that in. Just a force of habit I guess, and the fact that my USB drive failed, and I had to re-write this entire review in a real hurry! Posted Image

Nevertheless, I am man enough to own up to my mistakes, and I apologize again for getting your hopes up!!! I hope you don't hold it against me!

As I have said many times, the best thing about this site is that eagle-eyed folks like yourself can add to the reviews! Posted Image

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Posted March 26 2004 - 05:18 AM

Robert Harris,

Thanks for the info! No offense intended by the "so-called" comment, but I never realized that Roadshow Version was an official title. Anyway, as I mentioned in my review, I can live without the extra 30 minutes. For whoever likes that version of the film, more power to you, but for me, they just don't add enough to the film to warrant investing the extra time spent watching.

By the way, your quote from Samuel Goldwyn is a great one, and I wholeheartedly agree. However, opinions on exactly what "good" is will vary between people, sometimes wildly. Take the "Special Editions" of Star Wars for example. Some people I know think the changes are for the better, and some...well, I am sure you know what I mean!

On the other hand, this is also one of the aspects of cinema that I love so much...that films can be so personal to different people for completely different reasons!

Anyway, thanks for the information on why the "Roadshow Version" was edited down! I figured it was something like that, but it is nice to know! Keep your contributions coming! Posted Image Posted Image

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Posted March 26 2004 - 11:18 AM

Nice review Jason. I have not seen this movie yet, so I will probably pick it up.

That is a great line from Samuel Goldwyn, thanks for sharing Mr. Harris.

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Posted March 26 2004 - 11:30 AM

Jason,

Thanks for the quick reply. No problem, I will wait until there is a release with English subtitles, someday, I hope.

Actually I do not quite understand why MGM quite often don't offer the English subtitles for some "less popular" movies, for example, 'Witness for the Prosecution', 'The Big Country', 'Inherit the Wind', etc. Though it was mentioned "closed captioned" in the Amazon site, it's actually only with French and Spanish subtitles for these movies. For the same reason as for Alamo, I didn't buy them but would have bought them if they have English substitles.

I really hope that MGM will consider adding English subtitles to all their releases so that people like me who are not native Americans could enjoy those great movies.

Thanks again for your reply.

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Posted March 27 2004 - 12:24 AM

The original negative of The Alamo is dead.

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Posted March 27 2004 - 04:37 AM

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Any chance that MGM might sanction a restoration in the near future, Robert?

What is the current state of the O-neg?

How was the video-master made for the 192-minute Laserdisc? Why can't the 192-minute version be transfered now?

Link to an article about the only known 70mm roadshow print:

http://www.jwayne.co.../00000028.shtml

In the article, Mr. Harris notes that moving the print from Toronto to a non-climate controlled storage facility in Glendale, CA has damaged (perhaps beyond restoration) the print that was found (in good condition) in Canada in 1990 and used for the LD transfer.

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Posted March 27 2004 - 08:54 AM

Unless you really like the cover art, I'd avoid this release and pick up the 2 pack which containts The Alamo and The Kentuckian instead. It's $18 at Amazon but I've seen it for about $15 at places like Best Buy.

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Posted March 27 2004 - 09:04 AM

...$13.65 at www.dvdpacific.com . Posted Image

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Posted March 27 2004 - 09:32 AM

I LOVE DVD Pacific. Great prices. Fast delivery. I've never been charged by customs on boxed sets they have sent me, that includes the Criterion Bergman box, MGM Bergman box, Criterion Dreyer box, etc.

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Posted March 27 2004 - 09:39 AM

I've never been charged by customs on boxed sets they have sent me


Unfortunately they've recently been rumbled by HMC&E, so watch out Gordy.

I can't believe that The Alamo O-neg is "dead". That is so DEPRESSING. It sickens me when I hear stuff like that.


Ditto. Some scenes were directed by John Ford (uncredited); I'd be horrified to learn that his were among the scenes excised.

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Posted March 27 2004 - 10:15 AM

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Aw, shit. The Carl Dreyer Criterion box and the Decalogue 4-disc are currently in the mail, so I'll have my fingers crossed. Were you surcharged recently, John?

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Posted March 27 2004 - 10:23 AM

Aw, shit. The Carl Dreyer Criterion box and the Decalogue 4-disc are currently in the mail, so I'll have my fingers crossed. Were you surcharged recently, John?


No, thankfully, but many have. Apparently, dvdpacific think Customs have been playing dirty and trawling through various Forums, taking note of which suppliers members have been boasting about as being, er, customs friendly. They've also clamped down on DVDsoon.com. Buggers!

You might still be lucky, though. Some stuff, though correctly marked, has been getting through.

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Posted March 27 2004 - 10:48 AM

What I don't understand, is that I paid around $8/£14 international airmail postage for the Dreyer and Decalogue sets - so what is the problem? When I send boxed parcels overseas, I pay the postage (I actually work for Royal Mail in the main Aberdeenshire sorting centre) - when I sent my MGM Bergman box back to DVD Pacific it cost £5.14 for International Airmail. I don't understand the problem.

I was bumped £10.51 for my Warner Legends boxed set, which I bought from Play. What a joke. Looney Tunes: 4-Disc was £8.27.

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