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Films Of The American Renaissance '67-'75 Tournament


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#1 of 296 OFFLINE   Brook K

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Posted February 10 2004 - 06:17 PM

Ok, this may not work but I'm giving it a shot. The problem is there's a pretty nebulous demarcation that should be included and those that shouldn't. I'm talking about those films that opened up American cinema, provided new voices, new ways of storytelling, and a fresh vision of life in the good 'ol US of A that made the 1967-1975 era so exciting.

But what to include and what not to? Obviously prestige pics need not apply, large scale productions, musicals, the Pattons, 2001's, Oliver!'s etc, even stuff like Bananas, Jaws and Blazing Saddles is not what I'm going for. Maybe someone will be able to explain it better than I can, but hopefully you'll get the idea from the movies I'm placing in the tournament:

Carnal Knowledge Posted Image
Five Easy Pieces Posted Image
Harold & Maude Posted Image
Coffy Posted Image
Play Misty For Me Posted Image
McCabe & Mrs. Miller Posted Image
American Grafitti Posted Image
Two-Lane Blacktop Posted Image
The Boys In The Band Posted Image
Cool Hand Luke Posted Image
The Swimmer Posted Image
Sweet Sweetback's Badassss Song Posted Image
Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore Posted Image
In Cold Blood Posted Image
Fritz The Cat Posted Image
Electra Glide In Blue Posted Image
Johnny Got His Gun Posted Image
The Long Goodbye Posted Image
Salesman Posted Image
Rancho Deluxe Posted Image
Fat City Posted Image
Dirty Mary Crazy Larry Posted Image
Superfly Posted Image
The Beguiled Posted Image
Pink Flamingos Posted Image
High Plains Drifter Posted Image
Hearts And Minds Posted Image
THX 1138 Posted Image
Sisters Posted Image
Beyond The Valley Of The Dolls Posted Image
They Shoot Horses Don't They? Posted Image
The Last House On The Left Posted Image

Advance to Second Round

MASH Posted Image
Klute Posted Image
Bonnie & Clyde Posted Image
Shaft Posted Image
Midnight Cowboy Posted Image
A Woman Under The Influence Posted Image
Point Blank Posted Image
Serpico Posted Image
Straw Dogs Posted Image
Monterey Pop Posted Image
Texas Chainsaw Massacre Posted Image
Billy Jack Posted Image
Night Moves Posted Image
The Last Detail Posted Image
Phantom of the Paradise Posted Image
The King Of Marvin Gardens Posted Image

Advanced to Third Round

Don't Look Back Posted Image
The Wild Bunch Posted Image
Vanishing Point Posted Image
Medium Cool Posted Image
Dog Day Afternoon Posted Image
Mean Streets Posted Image
Easy Rider Posted Image
Nashville Posted Image

Advanced to Quarter Finals

Badlands Posted Image
Targets Posted Image
Night Of The Living Dead Posted Image
The Honeymoon Killers Posted Image

Advanced to Semi-Finals

The Parallax View
The Last Picture Show
The Conversation
Minnie & Moskowitz
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#2 of 296 OFFLINE   george kaplan

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Posted February 10 2004 - 10:22 PM

I'll play, but I'm going to skip the nomination phase. I'll second Brook-approved films, but I'm sure I'd end up nominating the wrong ones, since I would have thought 2001, The Godfather and Jaws were a huge reason why that era was so good. Posted Image
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#3 of 296 OFFLINE   Simon_Lepine

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Posted February 11 2004 - 12:36 AM

I'm not sure those all qualify:

Phantom of the Paradise
Dirty Harry
McCabe & Mrs. Miller
Chinatown (too big?)

edit: Steve reminded me of Altman, switched Shaft to McCabe & Mrs. Miller, one of my fave from that period

#4 of 296 OFFLINE   SteveGon

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Posted February 11 2004 - 01:05 AM

I'll nominate:

Fat City (1972)
The Conversation (1974)
Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore (1974)
MASH (1970)

#5 of 296 OFFLINE   Lew Crippen

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Posted February 11 2004 - 03:10 AM

Nominate:

Nashville—I know that there are a couple of Altman noms already, but I think that this is quintessential Altman, in telling a story differently.
Salesman—one of the most important documentaries ever, it defined a documentary style and set a standard that has not often been matched.
The Last Picture Show—Peter Bogdanovich had a fresh look at coming of age in post-war, small-town America. And it was filmed in glorious B&W, at a time when it seemed as though no serious, important or even good movie would ever be in B&W again.
American Graffiti—not so groundbreaking as the revisionist hype, but still this set a standard for the inclusion of popular music into a movie. Another fresh look at youth on the cusp of becoming adults—this one set about a decade later than ‘Bogdanovich’s.


Second:

The Conservation
McCabe & Mrs. Miller
Chinatown
—but I want my second back if you disqualify this one Brook.


I suggest Bananas for anyone needing an idea.
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#6 of 296 OFFLINE   Bill McA

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Posted February 11 2004 - 05:29 AM

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Four noms for everyone

Thanks a lot, Brook! Posted Image Posted Image

Nominate:

Titicut Follies (Frederick Wiseman)
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (Tobe Hooper)
The Joe D'Alessandro trilogy Flesh, Heat, Trash (Paul Morrissey)
Husbands (John Cassavetes)

If Brook wasn't so frugal with the nominations, I would also have nominated:
Night of the Living Dead (George A. Romero)
Targets (Peter Bogdanovich)
Pink Flamingos (John Waters)
Score (Radley Metzger)
The Lickerish Quartet (Radley Metzger)
Don't Look Back (D.A. Pennebaker)
Hi, Mom (Brian De Palma)

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I'll second the magnificent Nashville
And if you allow it, Phantom of the Paradise
       

#7 of 296 OFFLINE   Brook K

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Posted February 11 2004 - 05:53 AM

George, while most of these films are not "independent" in terms of not being made at a studio, "independent film" still in its infancy except for drive-in/c-grade/cult type films, that "feel" is what I'm trying to go for. Just trying to find a semi-interesting topic in which the same old films (2001 or Godfather, in this case) are not winning.

Along those lines I'm disqualifying Chinatown and Dirty Harry. Everything else is fine.
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#8 of 296 OFFLINE   Jay E

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Posted February 11 2004 - 05:57 AM

Great idea, it's my favorite time period for films!

I nominate:

Point Blank
Parallex View, The
Night Moves
Wild Bunch, The
- re-invented the western...is it too big of a film?


Taxi Driver would have made my list if it was one year younger as it perfectly exemplifies the era.

#9 of 296 OFFLINE   Walter Kittel

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Posted February 11 2004 - 06:09 AM

Nominate:

Electra Glide in Blue
Scarecrow
Vanishing Point
Two-Lane Blacktop

Seecond:

The Last Picture Show
Point Blank

- Walter.

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#10 of 296 OFFLINE   george kaplan

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Posted February 11 2004 - 06:28 AM

I'll second:

The Parallax View
American Grafitti
MASH

and I would have thirded Chinatown. Posted Image
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#11 of 296 OFFLINE   ErikG

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Posted February 11 2004 - 12:42 PM

Nominate:

Black Christmas
A Clockwork Orange



Second:

Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Two-Lane Blacktop


Third:

American Grafitti
No shirt
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NOO dice!

#12 of 296 OFFLINE   george kaplan

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Posted February 11 2004 - 01:04 PM

I'll use my last second on A Clockwork Orange
"Movies should be like amusement parks. People should go to them to have fun." - Billy Wilder

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#13 of 296 OFFLINE   Brook K

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Posted February 11 2004 - 01:29 PM

No thirds necessary. A Clockwork Orange is disqualified.

I'm also adding Badlands

We're at 28 now. I'm not sure if 64 is realistic or not.
Four more nom's and 2nds and lets see how far we get.

Current Nominations:

Black Christmas
Electra Glide in Blue
Scarecrow
Vanishing Point
Night Moves
Wild Bunch, The
Titicut Follies
The Joe D'Alessandro trilogy Flesh, Heat, Trash (Paul Morrissey)
Husbands
Salesman
Fat City
The Conversation
Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore
2002 Sight & Sound Challenge: 321  Last Watched: L'enfance Nue
Last 8 Films Watched: In the Loop - A- / It Might Get Loud - B+ / What Just Happened? - B / Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs - C- / Drums Along the Mohawk - A- / Punisher War Zone - B+ / Moon - C+ / A Man For All Seasons - B+

#14 of 296 OFFLINE   Walter Kittel

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Posted February 11 2004 - 04:00 PM

Nominate:
In Cold Blood
Cool Hand Luke
The Swimmer
The Beguiled

Second:
Night Moves
The Wild Bunch
The Conversation

- Walter.

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#15 of 296 OFFLINE   Bill McA

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Posted February 11 2004 - 05:13 PM

Nominate:
Night of the Living Dead (George A. Romero)
Targets (Peter Bogdanovich)
Pink Flamingos (John Waters)
The Lickerish Quartet (Radley Metzger)

2nd:
Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore


and who can forget...

Sweet Sweetback's Baadsssss Song (Melvin Van Peebles)
Taking Off (Milos Forman)
Drive, He Said (Jack Nicholson)
The Boys in the Band (William Friedkin)
Carnal Knowledge (Mike Nichols)
Fortune and Men's Eyes (Harvey Hart)
Johnny Got His Gun (Dalton Trumbo)
Fritz the Cat (Ralph Bakshi)
Brewster McCloud (Robert Altman)
Last Summer (Frank Perry)
       

#16 of 296 OFFLINE   george kaplan

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Posted February 11 2004 - 10:32 PM

OK, I'll use my last second instead on Cool Hand Luke.
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#17 of 296 OFFLINE   Jay E

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Posted February 12 2004 - 12:27 AM

I second In Cold Blood & The Swimmer.

#18 of 296 OFFLINE   Lew Crippen

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Posted February 12 2004 - 12:58 AM

I already used a second for The Conservation—who gets their second back Brook? Walter or me?

Regardless, I’ll use my other two:

Second:

The Boys in the Band
Badlands

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#19 of 296 OFFLINE   Brook K

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Posted February 12 2004 - 02:15 AM

Walter can have his back and you can have yours back for Badlands, Lew. My additions are automatically in.

Bill, Carnal Knowledge is already in. I'm adding Night Of The Living Dead, Sweet Sweetback's Badassss Song, Billy Jack and Fritz The Cat

Current Nominations
Black Christmas
Scarecrow
Vanishing Point
Titicut Follies
The Joe D'Alessandro trilogy Flesh, Heat, Trash (Paul Morrissey)
Husbands
Salesman
Fat City
Pink Flamingos
The Lickerish Quartet
The Beguiled
Taking Off
Drive, He Said
Fortune and Men's Eyes
Brewster McCloud
Last Summer
Dirty Mary Crazy Larry
Rancho Deluxe
Cockfighter


We're up to 43. I'll leave it up to you to decide whether we should go for 64 or 32 with a bunch of wild cards.

If you would like to go for 64 I'll allow unlimited nominations and 4 more 2nds.
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Posted February 12 2004 - 02:25 AM

Second: Targets, Electra Glide in Blue

Nominate: Cockfighter (1974)

No one else has seen Fat City? Posted Image