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#41 of 103 OFFLINE   Eli R

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Posted September 08 2006 - 05:46 PM

I watched some of the episodes on TV Land the other day, or tried to watch I should say. I hadn't seen any of them since some re-runs as a kid in the 70's.

But watching them today I thought they were just plain terrible and that's not even taking into account the almost total historical inaccuracy of the stories, the landscape that didn't resemble Kentucky even the slightest amount and the completely laughable white actors playing the Indians.

I wanted to like it again but I just couldn't. I love that time historical time period and wish they would make a modern movie about Daniel Boone or Davy Crockett. If anyone wants a great book recommendation though check out "The Frontiersmen" by Allan Eckert. It includes lots of info about Boonesborough and frontier Kentucky.

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Posted September 08 2006 - 05:59 PM

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I wanted to like it again but I just couldn't. I love that time historical time period and wish they would make a modern movie about Daniel Boone or Davy Crockett.
Well other than the coonskin cap and Fess Parker playing both Davy Crockett and Daniel Boone, it's wrong to associate the two men. They lived half a century+ apart and in different states!

Meanwhile, there were a number of modern modern Davy Crokett remakes. I found this from one site:

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Brian Keith (1987), Merrill Connally (1988), Johnny Cash (1988), Tim Dunigan (1988 & 1989), David Zucker (1991), John Schneider (1995), Scott Wickware (2000), Justin Howard (2002), Billy Bob Thornton
9 actors have played Crockett in polished productions on both the small and big screens, and the feature film with Billy Bob a few years ago sucked..

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#43 of 103 OFFLINE   michael_ks

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Posted September 09 2006 - 12:51 AM

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But watching them today I thought they were just plain terrible and that's not even taking into account the almost total historical inaccuracy of the stories.

Is it really any worse than the revisionist history so rampant in all quarters of our society, especially in the public school system?

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...and wish they would make a modern movie about Daniel Boone or Davy Crockett.

Yeah, except that in todays PC world it wouldn't be Daniel Boone, it'd be Danielle Boone...and she'd have a 'partner' alright...

#44 of 103 OFFLINE   Gary OS

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Posted September 09 2006 - 01:24 AM

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The lyrics are "Daniel Boone was a man. Yes a BIG man".

Yep. Just a complete brain freeze on my part there.

As for the show itself, I'm a little more forgiving than others when it comes to some of the complaints raised here. And I'm in total agreement with Michael about the idiotic PC revisionism of today - nothings worse than that. Give me books and television from that era over today every time. I think my chances of getting correct historical content will be a lot better that way.

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#45 of 103 OFFLINE   Bert Greene

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Posted September 09 2006 - 04:43 AM

Well, I never really thought about it much in terms of historical accuracy. I usually just view the series (like many others) through the prism of 60s-tv adventure hokum. I didn't really watch the recent marathon on TV-Land because I'm planning on getting the two dvd sets. I didn't notice until late in the marathon that they were showing episodes from well into 1968. Which, was on the date of the one I 'did' manage to catch. It had Julie Harris guesting as some gal whom the Indians believe to be a witch, thanks to the way she has with animals. Although a little cheesey, I found it nicely entertaining. But, I'm such a sucker for these old shows!

#46 of 103 OFFLINE   michael_ks

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Posted September 09 2006 - 06:59 AM

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But, I'm such a sucker for these old shows!

So am I, as my list of shows below will attest. "Daniel Boone" is special to me for the simple reason that it maintains a strong moral center, has a dignified poignancy and a wonderful timelessness about it. It showcases an era in our nation which I'm very fond, given that intrepid pioneers like Boone were steadfastly and unselfishly driven to help forge a new nation. Sure there are historical inaccuracies, but it's all part of the show's charm.

"The Rifleman", "Rawhide" and "Swamp Fox" are also series that for me elicit admiration for pioneering types who fostered expansion and overcame adveristy. Again, some free license taken here with history, but I view them within a larger construct rather than worry about mistakes made over dates and geography. And need I explain the positive male role models for the youngsters these shows projected? Leadership, compassion and cool-headedness, etc. are hallmarks of figures like Boone, Francis Marion (SF), and the fictional McCain and Favor. God, I'm getting misty here...

#47 of 103 OFFLINE   Jeff#

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Posted September 09 2006 - 06:11 PM

I can't get emotional over a show like Daniel Boone. It is light, passable 1960s television entertainment that is not trying to be hip like a Wild Wild West of Man from U.N.C.L.E. It's a simple show that didn't use too many gimmicks, historical or otherwise.

Daniel Boone is not a priority to me, and I although I wouldn't buy it I kind of hoped TV Land would have given it more air time post-marathon than they did. Less than 2 weeks, and already it seems they removed the show from their weekday afternoon schedule! It wasn't going to be on weekends, so it looks like Daniel was a victim of low 2006 cable ratings.

#48 of 103 OFFLINE   Bob Hug

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Posted September 11 2006 - 12:40 AM

Descriptions of the DVD sets can be found at Goldhil Entertainment's site; Goldhil is doing the actual manufacturing and distribution for Liberation Entertainment.

Season 1: http://www.goldhilen....productid=2354
Season 2: http://www.goldhilen....productid=2355

Note, in small print, at the bottom of the season 2 description . . .

"The series continues with Season 3, available in Q3 2007."

#49 of 103 OFFLINE   michael_ks

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Posted September 11 2006 - 12:49 AM

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[Daniel Boone] is not trying to be hip like a Wild Wild West or Man from U.N.C.L.E. It's a simple show that didn't use too many gimmicks, historical or otherwise.

Precisely--and that's a good thing.

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"The series continues with Season 3, available in Q3 2007."

Nice to know that Liberation is committing to S3 before the first two hit the shelves. Have to wait a year but with 58 episodes in S1-2 plus all the other sets I'm trying to view, I should manage OK.

On tvland.com, you can watch the premiere episode of S1 and 2 episodes from S2. The B&W shows are bound to look better than I've ever seen, judging by my scanning through "Ken-Tuck-E". Some flecks of dust here and there in the image, but very good overall. The color episodes speak for themselves. You can also see some bonus interviews from the DVD set which features a nice tribute to Albert Salmi.

Just two weeks to go until we see the release of the first two seasons!

http://www.tvland.co....ctid=202217699

#50 of 103 OFFLINE   Eli R

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Posted September 11 2006 - 02:56 AM

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Well other than the coonskin cap and Fess Parker playing both Davy Crockett and Daniel Boone, it's wrong to associate the two men. They lived half a century+ apart and in different states!

Meanwhile, there were a number of modern modern Davy Crokett remakes. I found this from one site:


9 actors have played Crockett in polished productions on both the small and big screens, and the feature film with Billy Bob a few years ago sucked..

What more do you want? Posted Image

I'm well aware of when AND where Boone and Crockett lived. I'm associating them because I have an interest in both of them and both have been the subject of popular movies and tv shows in the past.

And what more do I want? I want what I said I wanted, modern features about both of them. And just a few years ago a new film about Crockett WAS being planned and Harrison Ford was being mentioned as the possible lead. At the very least it looks like TNT or some other cable station could produce something.

#51 of 103 OFFLINE   Michael Alden

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Posted September 11 2006 - 03:11 AM

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I can't get emotional over a show like Daniel Boone. It is light, passable 1960s television entertainment that is not trying to be hip like a Wild Wild West of Man from U.N.C.L.E. It's a simple show that didn't use too many gimmicks, historical or otherwise.

Daniel Boone is not a priority to me, and I although I wouldn't buy it I kind of hoped TV Land would have given it more air time post-marathon than they did. Less than 2 weeks, and already it seems they removed the show from their weekday afternoon schedule! It wasn't going to be on weekends, so it looks like Daniel was a victim of low 2006 cable ratings.


Of course you wouldn't buy it. That's what you say in 99% of your posts, of which 98% are negative. You are like the fun sponge, just sopping up anyone else's enjoyment.

#52 of 103 OFFLINE   Jeff#

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Posted September 11 2006 - 02:15 PM

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Of course you wouldn't buy it. That's what you say in 99% of your posts, of which 98% are negative. You are like the fun sponge, just sopping up anyone else's enjoyment.
Ha ha ha! Posted Image Of course you would complain about me posting about a show I wouldn't buy. Actually, 95% of my posts are very positive. You just choose to not comment on those because they most likely pertain to shows that you don't like....and that's fine. I like Daniel Boone, and I even said that previously in this very topic. You really shouldn't let my harmless posts bother you so much, Michael.

#53 of 103 OFFLINE   michael_ks

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Posted September 11 2006 - 11:42 PM

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You really shouldn't let my harmless posts bother you so much, Michael.

Well, I'm another Michael that's bothered. Others out there bothered? Show of hands? I thought so.

#54 of 103 OFFLINE   Jeff#

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Posted September 12 2006 - 12:45 AM

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Well, I'm another Michael that's bothered. Others out there bothered? Show of hands? I thought so.
No hands. Why bother? If you don't like 'em....don't read 'em. Posted Image

#55 of 103 OFFLINE   JeffWld

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Posted September 12 2006 - 04:07 AM

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Well, I'm another Michael that's bothered. Others out there bothered? Show of hands? I thought so.

I've invoked the "ignore" feature for you-know-who...keeps the threads cleaner.

#56 of 103 OFFLINE   Michael Alden

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Posted September 12 2006 - 05:27 AM

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I've invoked the "ignore" feature for you-know-who...keeps the threads cleaner.


Please post how to do this for the benefit of all of us who have our hands raised at being tired of Jeff's thread-crapping.

#57 of 103 OFFLINE   michael_ks

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Posted September 12 2006 - 05:53 AM

Yes, please share so that I may have my personal "Jeff#-B-Gone". The alternative is to crap in threads for shows he praises, but I'm too nice a guy for this.

#58 of 103 OFFLINE   Bob Hug

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Posted September 12 2006 - 06:15 AM

Buddy/Ignore lists can be accessed once you've logged into HTF. Near the top of the page you'll see a section titled "User CP" (the CP stands for Control Panel). Click on "User CP" and, on the next screen, you'll see a section on the left hand side titled "Miscellaneous." Under "Miscellaneous" you'll see "Buddy/Ignore List." Click on that and the next screen will allow you to either add a "Buddy" or add "Ignore" using the User's screen name. Both of these features will only work when you are logged in; they are not available if you decide to view the forum while not logged in. There is also an option to remove "Buddy" or "Ignore" if you change your mind later. You can also go to the public profile of any user and simply click on the "Add to Buddy list" or "Add to Ignore list," which is a bit simpler than using the User Control Panel feature.

#59 of 103 OFFLINE   Jeff#

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Posted September 12 2006 - 02:21 PM

Why the hostility, guys? Posted Image I've written a lot of good posts in the past 2 years. But a few of you prefer to go on the attack rather than discuss the shows. There's nothing wrong with saying why we don't care for certain TV programs. I've written more posts about what I enjoy than what I don't. (I'm the guy who started the "Get Smart" topic in 2005, and now it's finally coming to DVD).

I didn't exactly write anything negative about Daniel Boone. Heck...I LIKE the show. Just because I say I'm not buying it on disc (as I have about other shows in some earlier topics) is no reason to make this a personal issue. If you have a problem with me instead of airing your grievances in public, there is a private messaging feature you can use.

#60 of 103 OFFLINE   Chris S

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Posted September 12 2006 - 03:14 PM

I too don't understand the uproar... It's not like this is a Star Wars thread Posted Image

So Jeff# doesn't want to buy it. Thats cool. His choice/loss. He's shared some of his thoughts on the release and how he sees it relating to other shows during that time. No big deal...

But to get things back on topic...

Have there been any early reviews yet?? And how much restoration was really performed? Were the TVLand broadcasts the restored versions?
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