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Warner to buy MGM rumors: if so, how will this effect DVD releases?


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#1 of 20 OFFLINE   AlanBrom

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Posted December 23 2003 - 06:23 AM

There have been rumors on newswires that Warner might merge with MGM, basically taking on their 4,000 title film library. How will this effect MGM's vast production? I hope this does not mean goodbye to the Midnite Movies, World Films, Soul Cinema and other dvd lines that we so treasure.

#2 of 20 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted December 23 2003 - 07:24 AM

I look at it this way.....

If Warner was put in control of the MGM library
we would hopefully see the end of "pan and scan"
only releases, TRUE restorations on some of their
most classic releases, and hopefully an interest
in doing justice to It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World.

I'm not saying that as they stand now MGM is
the worst DVD company out there --- but you must
admit that they have made a lot of unpopular
decisions regarding the release of their library
to DVD.

Warner, on the othe other hand, has done nothing
but put extra effort into most ALL their releases.

A merge would probably be welcomed under the right
circumstances.

 

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#3 of 20 OFFLINE   Michael Allred

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Posted December 23 2003 - 09:41 AM

Ron, I gotta agree there. Warner has been nothing but magnificent with their DVDs, OAR even re-issuing old MAR discs like "Vacation", etc) and those lovely 2 disc sets.

If Warner took over MGM's library, we'd definitely get every movie in OAR.

Now the only downside would be this...would Warner be caught dead releasing "Troll" and "Troll 2"? In other words, MGM has released a LOT of B grade films on DVD that most studios would likely ignore. Warner has been pretty fussy on releasing their own catalog on DVD, adding a few thousand more would create a huge backlog that might take years to get through.

#4 of 20 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted December 23 2003 - 09:47 AM

Michael,

All of this is of course speculation based on
a mere rumor.

However, let's entertain it.

I would hope that if MGM merges with
Warner, that the video division would be expanded
to handle the amount of releases from both
studios.

 

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#5 of 20 OFFLINE   gregstaten

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Posted December 23 2003 - 09:48 AM

I also agree with Ron that the positives of MGM being acquired by Warner far outweigh any potential negatives. For example, Warner hasn't had an issue anamorphically enhancing their 1.66:1 releases -- MGM for some reason refuses to do so. (Note - I'm still hoping against hope that they don't release the upcoming Bergman films as 1.66:1 flat DVDs...)

Plus, Warner hasn't been using recycled LaserDisc transfers in years. MGM has been doing so even recently.

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#6 of 20 OFFLINE   streeter

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Posted December 23 2003 - 01:21 PM

MGM releases films that are NC-17 or Unrated, like Paul Verhoeven's Spetters and Flesh+Blood.

Warner has a policy of NOT releasing NC-17. There are numerous films that will never see the light of day because of this.
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#7 of 20 OFFLINE   Joshua Clinard

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Posted December 23 2003 - 01:50 PM

If MGM is aquired by Warner, I would think that there would be far fewer releases from MGM's catalogue. But there would be far more DVD's in snappers. I would not want that. I wish they would just eraticate them.

#8 of 20 OFFLINE   Harminder

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Posted December 23 2003 - 03:14 PM

Goodbye DTS and hello annoying snap cases. Bad combination from Warner Bros. Why couldn't the New Line division pick it up instead? Same damn company! LOL Posted Image

#9 of 20 OFFLINE   Darren Gross

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Posted December 23 2003 - 03:53 PM

I believe the companies would stay as separately managed entities, ala Rhino and New Line which are also Time-Warner owned but run unto themselves...Hence New Line's openness at using DTS and releasing unrated titles, something Warner will not do...

Same parent company...very different internal policies.

Though Turner's desire to own all MGM stamped titles may cause some shuffling around of titles.

As for Mad World, a reliable source (and it was not Robert Harris) reports that in striking that new 70mm print for the Cinerama dome, MGM essentially ruined the original negative making a restoration now totally impossible.

#10 of 20 OFFLINE   Brian E

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Posted December 23 2003 - 03:59 PM

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As for Mad World, a reliable source (and it was not Robert Harris) reports that in striking that new 70mm print for the Cinerama dome, MGM essentially ruined the original negative making a restoration now totally impossible

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#11 of 20 OFFLINE   Patrick McCart

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Posted December 23 2003 - 05:24 PM

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As for Mad World, a reliable source (and it was not Robert Harris) reports that in striking that new 70mm print for the Cinerama dome, MGM essentially ruined the original negative making a restoration now totally impossible

I hope it's not true... if it is, whoever approved doing that should be hanged.

The negative wasn't even supposed to be in bad condition and could have been used for the restoration (unlike The Alamo...its negative is supposedly useless).

#12 of 20 OFFLINE   Damin J Toell

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Posted December 23 2003 - 05:49 PM

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For example, Warner hasn't had an issue anamorphically enhancing their 1.66:1 releases -- MGM for some reason refuses to do so.


Actually, that's not right. Both Warner and MGM refuse to do 1.66:1 anamorphic releases. See, for example, Warner's non-anamorphic 1.66:1 transfer on the 2-disc SE of Giant, as well as the non-anamorphic 1.66:1 transfers in the Stanley Kubrick collection.

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#13 of 20 OFFLINE   Jay E

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Posted December 24 2003 - 01:12 AM

Well if Warner does come into control of the MGM library, they better not discontinue the Midnite Movie DVD line!

#14 of 20 OFFLINE   Ted Todorov

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Posted December 24 2003 - 03:39 AM

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MGM releases films that are NC-17 or Unrated, like Paul Verhoeven's Spetters and Flesh+Blood.
Warner has a policy of NOT releasing NC-17. There are numerous films that will never see the light of day because of this.
This concerns me greatly. Also I don't think that rampant mergers are a good thing -- choice is good, and MGM has been doing a lot of good work lately.

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#15 of 20 OFFLINE   Mark_TS

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Posted December 24 2003 - 04:56 AM

one other *possible* problem.
sometimes when a parent company puts out big capital to buy an underling, they have to cut budgets to save up some operating cash-which could mean cutting staff and even number of releases, at either WB, MGM, or both.
I am mostly happy with MGM, and they seem to be forging their own identity in the marketplace.....let us hope this will only enhance things for them.

Right now I rate them above Artisan and Columbia....
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#16 of 20 OFFLINE   rutger_s

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Posted December 24 2003 - 05:31 AM

Warner Home Video used to have distribution rights for MGM Home Video.

In fact many of the original DVDs from MGM Home Video said in the fine print, distributed by Warner Home Video.

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Posted December 24 2003 - 05:50 AM

this could go either way with warner having negative effects like censoring unrated/nc-17 titles and no DTS. It could be good becuse warner recently is taking pride in doing great eitions of catalog titles(casablanca,robin hood,etc.)

#18 of 20 OFFLINE   Robert Franklin

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Posted December 25 2003 - 02:06 PM

I agree with Harminder and Matt_H with regards to DTS. And I believe that Warner doesn't seem to do the snap cases anymore. The Matrix Revolutions and Terminator 3 prove that to me. And I believe that the contract ran out on the snap cases. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

#19 of 20 OFFLINE   Chuck Halverson

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Posted December 26 2003 - 09:57 AM

One good thing, Lets not forget about MGM and Turner having alot of the 30's and 40's Warner Brothers Cartoons. The best ones in my book. I cant wait till they start releasing Bob Clampetts cartoons. He is my favorite Looney Tunes Director.

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Posted December 27 2003 - 12:51 AM

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And I believe that Warner doesn't seem to do the snap cases anymore. The Matrix Revolutions and Terminator 3 prove that to me. And I believe that the contract ran out on the snap cases. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


I would love to say the snappers are gone. But I just saw "Alex & Emma" (released 12/23/03) in the store the other day and it's in a snapper case.

I believe the only reason Terminator 3 and Matrix Reloaded are not in snappers is because they were 2 disc dvd sets.

But I do hope the snappers die really soon...Posted Image


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