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HTF Review: Monty Python's The Meaning of Life SE + TRANSFER PROBLEM FEEDBACK



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#1 of 149 OFFLINE   Bill Hunt

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Posted October 07 2003 - 08:28 AM

Just a heads-up to everyone. Universal and DreamWorks are now having the same problem with copies of Taken on DVD. Same interlacing problem. Deluxe did the authoring and is looking into it.
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#2 of 149 OFFLINE   Bill McCamy

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Posted September 18 2003 - 04:08 PM

On a 55 inch Mits from an XP-30, the picture has film grain, and is not the best, but am I correct to assume that if my player wasn't coping with "cutting-edge technology," the picture quality would be truly awful?

#3 of 149 OFFLINE   Bill McCamy

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Posted October 02 2003 - 05:01 PM

Stefan,
I guess that answers my question above (post 128). Apparently the Panasonics cut the edge right off the technology that Paramount utilized in this mishmash.

#4 of 149 OFFLINE   Bleddyn Williams

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Posted September 15 2003 - 07:25 AM

I received an email from Universal today, with a phone number to call for them to send you a return envelope. They only want disc one back. They are expecting to have replacement copies available in the middle of November.

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Posted September 15 2003 - 08:21 AM

Felix - your wish is my command!Posted Image

Thank you for contacting Universal Studios. With the advent of cutting-edge
technology in the DVD format, a small number of DVD players do not have the
technical capability to take full advantage of the "Monty Python's The
Meaning of Life" disc format. Universal Studios Home Video has become aware
of a player specific issue which results in the appearance of jagged video
interlacing, on disc 1 only. Disc 2 is NOT affected. Consumers with an
incompatible player may mail back Disc 1 to Universal and receive a
replacement. To obtain a pre-paid USPS envelope in which to mail back the
original Disc 1, please call 1-800-433-4673. Replacement discs are currently
scheduled to be available mid-November 2003.

We appreciate your patronage and hope you continue to enjoy our products.

Sincerely,
Universal Studios Home Video

#6 of 149 OFFLINE   Carlo Medina

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Posted August 28 2003 - 10:30 AM

Woohoo! Thanks for the review! I've been waiting for another Python movie to complement Holy Grail and this looks to be the winner! Posted ImagePosted Image

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#7 of 149 OFFLINE   Carlo Medina

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Posted September 09 2003 - 04:22 AM

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If your DVD player has a "progressive scan" feature, try playing the movie again with that function turned off.
Are they TRYING to send us back into the stone age??? Posted Image

Actually, this wouldn't be a bad workaround if it were VIDEO BASED material, but last I checked, this was shot on film, right? Posted Image

Come on Universal, you can do better than that sorry excuse. Go back, master it correctly, and send out replacement copies and mark future DVDs with V2. 95% of the public won't notice and take advantage of your offer, the vocal 5% of us who do notice will be placated.

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#8 of 149 OFFLINE   Derek Miner

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Posted September 04 2003 - 05:08 AM

Well, I hadn't noticed the aliasing problem when watching this DVD on my computer, but sure enough, it's there: three frames full, two frames interlaced. Throughout the whole movie. The extra scenes branched into the film have a different pattern that I can't figure (it seems to be two frames full then FOUR frames interlaced, but the pattern seems to vary). I did notice that the commentary track sounds pitched down, so the conversion from PAL to NTSC definitely sounds culprit.

If anyone was wondering, the "director's cut" is branched very roughly. There is a short break as you move to the additional bit, and no effort has been made to make the additional material flow cleanly from the actual film. It works for the most part, but just don't expect THE ABYSS...
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#9 of 149 OFFLINE   Derek Miner

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Posted September 04 2003 - 10:59 AM

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Since the source amterial here is film, there's little excuse for doing a PAL-NTSC transfer. Sounds like someone tried to get two transfers for the price of one.
Well, the whole point of the technology today is that you can do a 24 fps HD master and then output a correct version in whatever format you desire, progressive or interlaced with little fuss.

Not to mention, you should be able to properly transcode a progressive PAL master to NTSC without aliasing problems because there is a one-to-one correlation between film frames and video frames (hence the speedup on PAL videos).
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#10 of 149 OFFLINE   JonZ

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Posted August 28 2003 - 01:14 AM

This is my second favorite MP film,after Holy Grail.

I have the old disc, but will pick this one up.

#11 of 149 OFFLINE   Mark Zimmer

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Posted September 04 2003 - 04:17 AM

Don May Jr of Synapse is also indicating over at Mobius www.mhvf.net that there appear to be substantial PAL-NTSC artifacts visible and that the picture quality was better on the original Image release. Anyone confirm this?

#12 of 149 OFFLINE   Mark Zimmer

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Posted September 05 2003 - 02:30 AM

I went through the new disc last night and throughout the entire film there are 3 good frames, followed by 2 bad frames--some of the most horrific combing I've ever seen on a disc not from Hong Kong. It's utterly ghastly on a flag-reading progressive player. This is a huge disappointment; it's the most unwatchable disc in my collection. Perhaps General Electric will fix it....not holding my breath, though.

For those not seeing any problems--and if you step through any five frames in sequence, you'll know whether there's a problem--do you have a cadence-reading player? Or are you just running it interlaced? If not everyone sees this on a progressive system then it may just be a flag-reading issue rather than a PAL conversion one. But the result is terrible on my Sony player. Unfortunately, both of my progressive players are flag-reading, so I don't have a way to compare.

The old Image version is perfectly fine all the way through; no combing or ghosting of any kind, but as noted above color and detail are not as good on the old non-anamorphic version.

#13 of 149 OFFLINE   Mark Zimmer

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Posted September 09 2003 - 02:29 AM

Regarding the title cards, when the Image release came out there was much complaining here on HTF from fans of the film that there should be cheesy organ music over the short feature and feature presentation cards. No one has mentioned the absence of this organ music here. I can't for the life of me remember from 20 years ago what played over the title cards in the theater, but it sure seems odd for them to sit there in absolute silence.

#14 of 149 OFFLINE   Mark Zimmer

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Posted September 10 2003 - 03:21 AM

No, the Image disc doesn't have the organ music or the voice-over either. I just used it to A/B the Universal disc.

#15 of 149 OFFLINE   Mark Zimmer

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Posted September 16 2003 - 09:49 AM

Well, I'd rather they waste 45 seconds of my time reading me the statement than for them not replace my disc, so I'm not beefing about that one bit. Posted Image

#16 of 149 OFFLINE   Mark Zimmer

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Posted September 18 2003 - 07:48 AM

If Back to the Future is any evidence, all the current copies will need to be sold first. It was many months before they got reliably into stores.

#17 of 149 OFFLINE   Mark Zimmer

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Posted September 26 2003 - 02:44 AM

I think it may not be an issue yet because it isn't quite clear cut as to whether the original prints had the music and voiceover, or whether that may have been different in the US and the UK, or whether the prior video editions had been tampered with. Without knowing what the situation is, it's tough to get too worked up. Does anyone have Terry Jones' phone number?Posted Image

Interesting post over at alt.fan.monty-python:
http://groups.google.....x.com #link11

Apparently if you rip the mpeg2 and reverse the flags on every 4th and 5th frame, it plays more or less properly.

#18 of 149 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted September 11 2003 - 10:17 AM

Didn't notice any problems on my Pany RP91
except during scanning which was very jumpy.

What am I looking for?

 

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#19 of 149 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted September 12 2003 - 10:34 AM

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prob #1 Watch the beginning of chapter 19. as the camera pans left, watch the rocks on the beach. The rocks look they are alive!

I really wanted to see this, but fortunately
the picture was fine on my RP91.

Not to say I don't believe what you guys
are seeing.

 

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#20 of 149 OFFLINE   Ronald Epstein

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Posted September 13 2003 - 04:20 AM

Guys,

I'll be happy to make this a sticky thread
and rename it so that it receives more exposure.

We always predicted back in 1997 that once
DVD went mainstream that quality control would
go out the window.

 

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