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The recent events motivated me to purchase The Siege - DTS


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#1 of 30 OFFLINE   Marc Alexander

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Posted September 12 2001 - 01:45 PM

When I saw this movie years ago, I found it mediocre at best. After the recent events, I haven't been able to stop thinking about similarities with this movie. Best Buy had the DTS version for $14.99 so I picked it up. Was anyone else reminded of this movie?
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#2 of 30 OFFLINE   donovan_chin

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Posted September 12 2001 - 02:11 PM

I agree that there are similarities but I don't think that Hollywood could ever match the horror of watching 2 passenger jets crash into a fully occupied building. No special effect in the world could make me feel as sick as I did on Tuesday watching the scenes of the disaster on TV. I own this DVD but it has nothing to do with yesterday's events but because IMHO, it's a spectacular movie. For the $14.99 that Best Buy is charging on this DTS release, you can't beat it.

#3 of 30 OFFLINE   Rob Gillespie

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Posted September 12 2001 - 02:24 PM

The events have had exactly the opposite effect on me. I had the disc on order with my regular supplier, but was waiting to get a few more titles in the basket before actually buying it. After yesterday, I cancelled it. I've seen the film before, but it's going to be pretty meaningless after watching all the stuff over the past two days.
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#4 of 30 OFFLINE   Jason Merrick

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Posted September 12 2001 - 02:57 PM

I had a similar experience as Rob, but not with a movie. I have been reading BLACK HAWK DOWN, which had just been blowing me away with the amount of carnage. Yesterday I picked it up and could only read a chapter or so, for some reason it just seemed so minor compared with events yesterday... which really bothered me! I hate that I compared the events, they are both horrific in their own rite. I think I will be waiting a while to resume my reading.

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Posted September 12 2001 - 03:27 PM

Marc- yes I was reminded by this movie. I saw this movie at the theater and thought it was decent, not great. Maybe I should give it another watch just out of curiosity.
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#6 of 30 OFFLINE   Marc Alexander

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Posted September 12 2001 - 04:12 PM

The thing that scares me...in this movie, there was a racist sentiment towards Arabs. To protect against further terrorism, they put Arabs in concentration-like camps. I have heard some of my co-workers express some racist sentiments toward Arabs. I fear a risk of retaliation against the innocent because of race.
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Posted September 12 2001 - 04:43 PM

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The thing that scares me...in this movie, there was a racist sentiment towards Arabs. To protect against further terrorism, they put Arabs in concentration-like camps.

[quote]Just like Japanese-Americans during World War II. Local mosques here have been receiving death threat calls. Some scary stuff.

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#8 of 30 OFFLINE   Guy Martin

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Posted September 12 2001 - 05:05 PM

I also posted this in the thread discussing this film in movies, but I found this particularly neaderthal comment posted at the IMDB page for The Siege this morning:
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Summary: how ironic

Prescient? Yeah, I think so. Anyone think internment camps are a bad idea now? The attack in this movie was far LESS than that in real life. The price of freedom is eternal vigilence, both outside AND especially within our borders.

The US needs to start rounding up all Arabs, NOW.


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#9 of 30 OFFLINE   David Prior

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Posted September 12 2001 - 10:13 PM

Please, no one forget that The Seige took a very powerful moral stand AGAINST knee-jerk racism and the creation of internment camps. The film dared to treat a complex, difficult, emotional subject with intelligence and moral insight. Maybe that's why it was not a box office success.

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Posted September 13 2001 - 12:04 AM

Not only did the recent events get me thinking about The Siege but also about the Die Hard trilogy. Examine the Die Hard trilogy: Die Hard - 40 story skyscraper taken over by terrorists. Hostages trapped in the skyscrapre. Terrorists then proceed to blow up the skyscraper. Die Hard 2(Die Harder) - Airport taken over by terrorists. Hostages trapped in planes and in the airport. Terrorists then proceed to blow up portions of the airport and an commerical airplane. Die Hard With A Vengeance - New York has a bomb go off in a populated area. Then a bomb threat is called in to some of the major areas. Another bomb goes off near Wall Street. Combine the three elements and you have a pretty scary coincidence. However, this incident also reminded me of some of the events in Daylight and Volcano. People coming together to save other people. Irregardless of personal feelings and of safety. BUT... Nothing compares to real life. You can watch a movie, turn it off and know that nothing outside your door has changed. With real life though, the world outside has changed. And we, as Americans, must realize that this change will make us stronger. This change will not destroy our spirit, it only strengthens it. The United Staes of America has and will continue to have brave soldiers fighting to keep it. The revolutionists fought for our freedom. Now we must fight to honor their sacrifices. ------------------ [Edited last by rutger_s on September 13, 2001 at 03:06 AM]

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Posted September 13 2001 - 03:24 AM

Having had Volcano mentioned in a previous post, I have to say that I thought of the scene at the end of the film where the people of all races and religions looked the same covered in the ash - there were no differences, just people helping each other.

The aftermath of the WTC attack looked exactly the same and it should inspire hope for us all.

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#12 of 30 OFFLINE   Simon Basso

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Posted September 13 2001 - 03:39 AM

"And we, as Americans, must realize that this change will make us stronger. This change will not destroy our spirit, it only strengthens it. The United Staes of America has and will continue to have brave soldiers fighting to keep it." Let's not forget that some Americans have financially supported the IRA for years, particularly in New York. In the UK, we've been living with the consequences of this support for years. Amd why such a catastrophe would make anyone want to watch a film dealing with the same subject is beyond me.

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Posted September 13 2001 - 05:03 AM


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Posted September 13 2001 - 06:45 AM

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The thing that scares me...in this movie, there was a racist sentiment towards Arabs. To protect against further terrorism, they put Arabs in concentration-like camps.

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PLEASE, remember that the film showed how WRONG this was! This film was as anti-racist as you can get.

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#15 of 30 OFFLINE   Marc Alexander

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Posted September 13 2001 - 08:30 AM

Well, I rewatched the Siege last night. What astounded me is that the terrorist acts thought up by Hollywood for this movie (usually always over dramatized), are nowhere near the extent of the recent events. I believe the movie is very relevant. My rating of this movie and its treatment of the topic has risen greatly.
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Posted September 13 2001 - 02:15 PM

Well after all this discussion I decided to go out and buy it today at work. I figured for only $14.99 it's worth it. Plus while I was there they had Blow for only $17.99 so I grabbed that too. Plus a copy of You've Got Mail, but that was just so chicks would dig my collection. I should watch the Seige tonight and see if it holds up for a second viewing.


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Posted September 13 2001 - 10:34 PM

My local Best Buy had TONS of these for sale tonight...a display on an entire shelf in fact...I know this film is eerily realistic now, but this felt like taking advantage of a horrible incident to make a display of it.

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Posted September 14 2001 - 01:18 AM

Well put, Guy. I have some Persian friends here in LA and have been worried about them and let them know my concerns. I saw the movie, frankly, because of the Episode 1 trailer in front of it at the Village in Westwood and was surprised how good it was-- up until Bruce Willis' very on-the-nose character appeared. But the sequences with the interment camps were chilling and I pray that nothing like that happens in my lifetime.

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Posted September 14 2001 - 02:40 AM

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The thing that scares me...in this movie, there was a racist sentiment towards Arabs.

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#20 of 30 OFFLINE   Pierre Gagne

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Posted September 14 2001 - 04:12 AM

Marc, I feel exactly the same way you do. I also rewatched THE SIEGE on Wenesday night and thought of how close this movie was to the current events. Keeping in mind this is a hollywood movie, one can't deny that there are elements in this movie that might explain how terrorists from Palestine work. This movie has definitely more impact on me then it did when I first saw it. Pierre




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